my 6yr old has gamble!!

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Trent

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were watching UFC and i go ill take the guy in the red shorts and he says "ok i like the guy in yellow im going to win" i say o really his response is "ya wanna bet?" lol how much you got kid?

he runs upstairs grabs the piggy bank and empties it and says "i got 6 dollars lets bet it all"

you got it kid. turd doubled up on me lol he says "so what you wanna bet next fight?" i was out of cash i tell him he goes "you can pay me later" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

what have i done lol and he shoots a good stick for a 6yr old:thumbup:
 
Awesome! Those kind of moments with my kids make my day. Keep that memory close.

Josh
 
I had the same type of moment with my 7-year-old (he just turned 8). We bet on something (that I knew was a sure thing...sorry...trying to teach him a lesson). He lost big! He had to come "work" for me on a Saturday!

Well, since that incident, we will occasionally "bet" on pool games...which aren't a sure thing...the turkey's pretty good! I'll give him two turns to my one (9-ball mostly) and once in a great while, he pulls one of "those games" out of his hat and sinks 3 or 4 in a row (including some pretty darn hard shots!)...so then the "betting bug" kicks in...

He's at the age where he's starting to "trade" items with friends. I've been trying to teach him how to make a "fair trade" for something of equal or like value...He's started getting the grasp of "weight" due to the 2:1 turns at the table...but he hasn't figured out that a "soda" if he wins doesn't quite equal a Saturday morning worth of "work" at my business if he loses!

A few more Saturday mornings worth of "work" (which entails dry-wiping the table and chairs I have in my place...or having to "help" me on a maintenance project...not really "work"...but he thinks it is!) and I think he'll start to figure out what "equal money" is...

Either way, win or lose, it's time well-spent with my son!

Thanks for sharing the story!!!

Jason
 
JAMSGOLF said:
I had the same type of moment with my 7-year-old (he just turned 8). We bet on something (that I knew was a sure thing...sorry...trying to teach him a lesson). He lost big! He had to come "work" for me on a Saturday!

Well, since that incident, we will occasionally "bet" on pool games...which aren't a sure thing...the turkey's pretty good! I'll give him two turns to my one (9-ball mostly) and once in a great while, he pulls one of "those games" out of his hat and sinks 3 or 4 in a row (including some pretty darn hard shots!)...so then the "betting bug" kicks in...

He's at the age where he's starting to "trade" items with friends. I've been trying to teach him how to make a "fair trade" for something of equal or like value...He's started getting the grasp of "weight" due to the 2:1 turns at the table...but he hasn't figured out that a "soda" if he wins doesn't quite equal a Saturday morning worth of "work" at my business if he loses!

A few more Saturday mornings worth of "work" (which entails dry-wiping the table and chairs I have in my place...or having to "help" me on a maintenance project...not really "work"...but he thinks it is!) and I think he'll start to figure out what "equal money" is...

Either way, win or lose, it's time well-spent with my son!

Thanks for sharing the story!!!

Jason
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Good story, you sound like a pretty good dad! It also sounds like you are his hero, stay that way as long as you can.;)
 
Nice stories, but be careful what lesson you are teaching. If taught correctly, good lessons can be learned. Taught incorrectly, well, the world needs more suckers too! :)
 
Trent said:
were watching UFC and i go ill take the guy in the red shorts and he says "ok i like the guy in yellow im going to win" i say o really his response is "ya wanna bet?" lol how much you got kid?

he runs upstairs grabs the piggy bank and empties it and says "i got 6 dollars lets bet it all"

you got it kid. turd doubled up on me lol he says "so what you wanna bet next fight?" i was out of cash i tell him he goes "you can pay me later" :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

what have i done lol and he shoots a good stick for a 6yr old:thumbup:
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Was it was a rerun? Maybe he had already seen it, and was putting a move on you! ;)
 
That is priceless...

My Dad taught me to Gamble in Snooker & Pool. He was a conservative & taught me to keep some in reserve for tomorrow. He said it's not defeating to admit you can't beat someone, instead it's a lesson learned & directions to the practice table.
 
future degenerates

Teaching children to gamble before they are even ten. You don't have anything better to teach children? How about teaching them the value of drinking shots, couch cruising with beer, beating up the neighbors? Drag racing in the family car.
 
Most kids do. It's not til you have to work for the money to feed & support yourself that you become cautious about gambling. When I was 16 years old I had a pretty good job at a union grocery store. One Friday night, one of the butchers took me & a couple other guys to the race track with him. He was always talking about all the money he made betting the horses. I was lucky that night but not in the way you might think. I lost my whole pay check along with the butcher and my other buddies. BUT, I never had much of an urge to go back to the race track, which I know saved me many thousands of dollars over the years! Pool & Poker is quite a different thing. There at least you have some control over your losses. :thumbup:

Sherm
 
kybill9 said:
Teaching children to gamble before they are even ten. You don't have anything better to teach children? How about teaching them the value of drinking shots, couch cruising with beer, beating up the neighbors? Drag racing in the family car.
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it not like hes calling his own bookie, or were using his lunch money at the horse track:rolleyes:
 
taught my children and their mom

I taught my children and their mom not to gamble with the man of the house!

Teaching them value did remind me of a story about my son at eleven. He was starting to want a little more than his allowance. I had a small parking lot in front of my business, figured it would take about an hour to clean up the litter. I told him to come to the yard with me Saturday and he could pick up the trash in the parking lot and I'd give him ten dollars. Not bad when my men weren't making much over the minimum wage of $3.25 an hour.

He comes to the yard and I give him a garbage bag. Ten minutes later he is back inside. "I'm finished!"

I walked out and took a look. As expected he had picked up a few larger things and did a sorry job in that length of time. I showed him the type of things I expected picked up and went back inside. Another ten minutes and he is back inside again. "How much are these other guys getting paid?"

James was a favorite with my men and liked coming to the yard. He would go out back with the men but I had to watch out, some weren't above sticking him with a nasty job if I didn't watch out for him. One of my hands that was a get over kind of guy given a chance asked if James could go out back with him. "Sure, treat him just like any other eleven year old that could have your job with a snap of his fingers."

"He can fire me?"

"In a heartbeat."

Hu
 
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Trent said:
it not like hes calling his own bookie, or were using his lunch money at the horse track:rolleyes:
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No he's just learning the importance of having action on the game to make it interesting, AT 6. Get back to us when he is 14-16 and he needs a stimulus to enjoy his life.
 
well i never taught him to gamble never even done it around him, he came up with it on his own. thats whyt he has "gamble" its in his blood.

we do pitch quarters for fun tho lol
 
I learned to enjoy a competitive game with my dad very early... $1 or $2 games of pool at the bar or later, on the home table. One memorable day, we were playing and I hit a hot streak. He honestly was a bar player, and I never learned strategy from him because I'm not sure he used much, if any. After the first win, we went for the standard "double or nothing" bet. After a couple of those, we usually ended up even and the overall loss was typically contained to less than $10. I won for hours... it got to where he'd propose the double or nothing bet and I'd reject it in favor of only a couple thousand. He won a couple of those, but never got down to zero. I quit $18,000 up after we'd played for something like 10 hours. At around 14 years old, despite having gambled for the better part of my life, I understood the other lessons I'd been taught- namely, that having fun with family is more important than money (real or imagined). There was no way in hell my dad had, or would give me, that much money. I settled for something silly... maybe $50 to get school clothes or something.

I learned to gamble from my Dad at an early age, but it was only one of many things he shared. I still gamble for fun, but I've never gambled away money I couldn't afford to lose. To say that teaching a kid about gambling will make them a degenerate? That's asinine and irresponsible. Not teaching your kid anything, or not spending time with them, or leaving them to be raised by a TV or computer? That's a sure way to make them a failure.
 
I thought I better clarify something as there have been several threads on this now...

I posted a story about "betting" with my 8-year-old. There is a COMPLETE difference between teaching a child what a "gamble" is and teaching a child how to "hustle"...the latter I would never do, as I don't believe in taking advantage of others and it's not something I would ever teach my child...period!

We "gamble" in everything we do...walking across the street is a "gamble" that we're not going to get hit by a passing car. We can minimize that "gamble" by looking both ways when we cross the street...that's what we teach our children (or at least it should be ;)). So, in a very far-reaching analogy, this is in a sense teaching our children how to minimize risk while "gambling". The same can be done on a pool table...if done properly.

Teaching a child that you should "never make a bet if you can't pay the debt", is teaching responsibility and taking ownership of one's own actions.

It can teach "risk - reward". Again, something that we as adults deal with on a daily basis!

Making a wager on a game of pool with a child is different than betting on a UFC fight (honest to gosh, no offense to the OP in the UFC thread - I thought it was a cute story). Betting on a UFC fight, neither party has any direct input as to the outcome. Betting on a game of pool, both parties have a "say" in what happens in order to achieve the "win". This can teach a child self-confidence and to believe in himself/herself.

The most important thing if you're going to use gambling, wagering, betting as tools to teach "life-lessons", that you need to approach it with the positive lessons, and not the negative ones...if done properly, I don't feel there is anything wrong with utilizing gambling as a teaching tool. Every child/adult has a different learning style (whether it's watching someone, reading a book or hearing it verbally)...the same applies to teaching...there can be different styles of teaching and gambling (again, if done with a "positive" end result in mind) is/can be just one more tool in teaching...

Jason
 
Pick the RED Queen.

I think most kids will learn about gambling whether you teach them or not. What I wanted to teach my son is that with gambling, most often there is only one person gambling and that is most often YOU.

So, a friend who was a 3 card Monty specialist, taught me how to toss the cards. Some practice and I could make the "magic" happen.

Even at 9 years of age and with me concealing my propensity toward gambling and pool, he knew without me telling him that wagers could be made. I guess, the Bourré card games that my wife's Cajun family and I reguarly played in, tipped him off about gambling. After watching me for a little while, he determined that he could guess where the red queen was and wanted to bet a quarter. He had three quarters to spend and wanted to double his money. I told him that gambling was not a good idea because there would always be people who knew more about gambling than he did and if he gambled his money, there was a good chance that he would lose it and then he would have no money to spend.

My little speech didn't deter him. As I flopped the cards to and fro, he watched with a gold-miner's glint in his eye, looking for the red queen. Of course he could spot it, when I wanted him to and of course I could make it "magically disappear" from where it was supposed to be, but he didn't know that. At that moment I decided to teach him about gambling. I warned him once more, that if he bet his money and lost it, he would have no more money to spend. That didn't bother him in the least and he grinned wildly at the thought of getting some easy money.

I moved the cards to and fro and let him win the first bet. He grinned wildly knowing that he knew how to spot the red queen. I told him that sometimes with gambling some people are able to fool you and take your money even though you think you can win. I once again told him that if he lost his money, he would not get it back and would have to wait until next week for an allowance to have any money to spend (and to remember his chores that he had to do to earn that allowance). Nothing could deter him from making that easy money. His mother glared at me with viscious eyes but said nothing.

The cards flashed back and forth, me showing Joe the red queen dropping it in place just like all of the times before. I asked him if he was sure he wanted to risk his money because he had won a quarter and could quit a winner. He said "NO, I know where the red queen is". He placed his bet, his eyes riveted on the spot where he thought the red queen lay. I asked him to select the red queen and he pointed to the card and I turned over the black queen. He was shocked but must have thought he had made a mistake that wouldn't happen again. Three more times, in succession, I tossed the cards back and forth, showing him the black queens, and then the red queen, dropping them in place, picking them up, moving them back and forth. Like a young hawk, he watched the red queen and picked what he thought was the red queen, losing one quarter after another, until with tears in his eyes, he lost his last quarter. I collected that last quarter with reluctance and was said to see his sad face and watery eyes but kept his three quarters. His mother glared at me the whole time but didn't say anything.

It wasn't fun taking my young son's last bit of money but it was probably the best thing that I could have ever done for him. From time to time he still makes friendly wagers but realizes that gambling is nothing that you want to tie your future fortune to and that the "easy money" isn't always so easy.
 
Trent said:
it not like hes calling his own bookie, or were using his lunch money at the horse track:rolleyes:
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Weather you are gambling with your kid or watching girls boobies go up and down,as they go down the pool sliding board in their bikinis,either way you had a great time with the 1 u love very much,sounds like a perfect day to me trent!
 
kybill9 said:
Teaching children to gamble before they are even ten. You don't have anything better to teach children? How about teaching them the value of drinking shots, couch cruising with beer, beating up the neighbors? Drag racing in the family car.
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You got my vote. To see kids gambling at such an early age, plus having a dad be proud, is pure idiocy. I have had a table in my home for many, many years but never encouraged my kids to learn the game.

My son is now a doctor, doesn't know how to play pool but he is a great dad, a good husband and a fine son. Should I add that I'm very proud of him?

Pool - my hobby. Gamble - just to keep it interesting.

Encourage children to gamble? - see paragraph above.
 
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