OK, fair enough. So, lets try this; have you ever had any business dealings with Bassel? Surely the moderators would allow a yes or no answer. I'm just trying to figure why you have such animosity for him. Believe me, I don't care one way or the other. It just seems you have taken up this cause for no reason. Do I have it all wrong?
Any interest in some carbide sanding mandrels for $240 shipped and paypaled?
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OK, fair enough. So, lets try this; have you ever had any business dealings with Bassel? Surely the moderators would allow a yes or no answer. I'm just trying to figure why you have such animosity for him. Believe me, I don't care one way or the other. It just seems you have taken up this cause for no reason. Do I have it all wrong?
I didn't go to the Mods and as far as I know I've never even swapped a PM with one but I am glad they said something. This crap gets pretty old. Reread the above stuff and you'll see it has nothing at all to do with Joe's Mandrels which is what I keep popping in here to read. Just pointless bashing. And maybe you guys think you're one upping the other, or being clever but it sure doesn't look that way to many of us. And maybe some people do find it entertaining but I don't.
As far as Bassel and those Mandrels, well the guy had a machinist make them that obviously didn't know what he was doing. He owned up to it and from everything I've read and the few times we spoke he's making it right. He lost a lot of money on what he paid for materials and to that machinist and I certainly hope he doesn't pay him the balance due. What more you expect the guy to do? People bringing it up over and over is really tiresome. I'm sure once his cashflow is right everyone will be squared. I get absolutely no indication the guy is anything but honest. Don't you think maybe it's time to give it a rest (rhetorical question)?
If you understand anything about what I've just said you'll realize there is absolutely no reason to respond to what I've just written.
I did let it go. I never mentioned his name in this thread. He chose to come in here and stir, so i stated my opinion. I dont care what anyone else thinks or believes, i know the truth. I agree that it is getting old though, so im trying really hard to keep my mouth shut. Im done with all that though. Im busy working on my idea to make arbors on my mandrels at the moment :thumbup:
Joe
Joe
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Actually, I started designing a set. I was at my friends shop and showed him some sets out of carbide. He thought making them out of hardened toolsteel would work well and he could make and harden them fairly easy. He said he would have no problem getting them to 65 Rockwell. The one I am working on (actually its done except of some dimension mods) uses just one male and one female Mandrel and has removable sleeves for the different sanding sizes. Then if I wear one sleeve out its easy and fairly cheap to replace. I'll just have him make me up a dozen and I'll be good for years. If you want to compare notes give a call.
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Actually, I started designing a set. I was at my friends shop and showed him some sets out of carbide. He thought making them out of hardened toolsteel would work well and he could make and harden them fairly easy. He said he would have no problem getting them to 65 Rockwell. The one I am working on (actually its done except of some dimension mods) uses just one male and one female Mandrel and has removable sleeves for the different sanding sizes. Then if I wear one sleeve out its easy and fairly cheap to replace. I'll just have him make me up a dozen and I'll be good for years. If you want to compare notes give a call.
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Bassel, if you don't want people hijacking your threads to badmouth you, then don't do it to them. If you have nothing to contribute to this thread except for complaints when you have never tried the product, then I suggest you leave the thread alone.
Mike
Mike
looks real good with the mandrel
If you choose to use aluminum I'd go with 7075 T-6. Just a suggestion.
Very nice clean work. Looks like a winner. I sure wish a taper was possible.
I'm sure everyone appreciates your effort. I certainly do.
Robin
edit- On my mandrels by Tom Migliore, after years of use, the only part that shows any wear is the stainless part that gets gripped in the chuck. I suspect that might become a problem in the long haul with aluminum.
I'm sure everyone appreciates your effort. I certainly do.
Robin
edit- On my mandrels by Tom Migliore, after years of use, the only part that shows any wear is the stainless part that gets gripped in the chuck. I suspect that might become a problem in the long haul with aluminum.
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I don't use the arbors as a driver. I use the center hole on the tail stock live center, and drive with the opposite end. If it's the butt, I have a drive pin that fits like a bumper. With the shaft, I chuck up on the bare wood tip end of new cues, and for refinishes I use a collet & chuck on the ferrule. The marring on the arbors is from using pliers to remove them. I install the arbor before the finish goes on, apply finish, polish, then remove. The seal created by the finish makes it just tight enough that I need pliers.
Thanks for the input guys. I was wondering if anyone did it that way Eric. If someone chose to do it like that, where you chuck up the wood, and not the mandrel, wouldnt the arbor be kind if unnecessary? Just a thought.
Joe
Joe
Still very much necessary. The whole purpose of the arbor is to give a guide for sanding/polishing the cue to. No matter which end you drive from, you still can only sand as far as the arbor. The stub off the back end of each arbor isn't necessary so long as the arbor is still center drilled, but I personally prefer grabbing stainless steel with pliers than I do carbide. Carbide is very hard but brittle. Grabbing it with pliers or holding it with the chuck could potentially crack/break/chip it.
Glad you like it.
Those look good Joe. And there is no harm in trying to help others out.
I'd like to take you up on your offer but considering I am mostly a repairman who just dabbles, I have been experimenting with my joint sizes.
I know I kept a text file on what Dick N mentioned he uses. I have a McDermott with a .842 and thats pretty much where I believe I'd like to be as well.
Good luck with your venture, I'm sure these will be a great value when you get them worked out.
I'd like to take you up on your offer but considering I am mostly a repairman who just dabbles, I have been experimenting with my joint sizes.
I know I kept a text file on what Dick N mentioned he uses. I have a McDermott with a .842 and thats pretty much where I believe I'd like to be as well.
Good luck with your venture, I'm sure these will be a great value when you get them worked out.
My offer wont expire to you Terry, its good for as long as you need man. I just got my carbide in the mail today, so i should be getting your set done here soon my friend.
Joe
That makes sense. Id rather grab the arbor than the carbide mandrel too, lol. Thanks for the pics and advice man, i appreciate it! I just hope everyone ends up happy with them.
Joe
Ive got a few sets being ground down tonight. If all goes well, i should have them in the mail this weekend.
Joe
Joe