Triangle rack or not....?
- Thread starter Mr.RS4
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I would NOT use that. Let me get this straight, that is a template for tapping the balls into place? I don't want to tap anything down on my table. That's why people were having problems with the Sardo rack. Making divot not the way to go.
I use the Slug Doctor and couldn't be happier. Perfect rack and no divot on table plus you never had to reach for the rack! Here's the link:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=222430&highlight=slug
I use the Slug Doctor and couldn't be happier. Perfect rack and no divot on table plus you never had to reach for the rack! Here's the link:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=222430&highlight=slug
Yes, you are tapping table, to get the ball in place.
Here some salesman info:
This is the official tool EPBF use to drain the tables of European and Euro Tour. After use, you do not use the triangle and the balls are perfect together. If later is sure to put the balls in place keeps drain for months.
When the balls hit those tapped spot they roll off funny.
TheThaiger
Banned
Tapping the table can work well, but can also be a bit hit and miss if not done correctly. Use a magic rack if worried.
as a former rack boy and racker of many balls to the most critical of players (people with money wagered) I don't see what is so hard about getting a tight rack. Divots in the table, worn cloth, and other faulty racks are all equipment problems and can be remedied without inventing something to coverup existing problems. Just rack the balls tight with a triangle rack. seems as if people are making a mountain out of a mole hill.
TheThaiger
Banned
Hmm, you clearly don't play where I do then! A tapped table or magic rack is essential.
Have you play with Slug-Doctor Tight Rack System? How is this compared with tapped table or magic rack?
Or other billiards player, what do you recommend?
Is this good?
Would you use this?
For how long will this work?
When you use this you will not need any triangle rack after, but is this good?
Mr.RS4:
Not a fan of it, sorry. Reasons:
1. With that device, you are DIVOTING the cloth. You are, in essence, injuring the cloth -- the same way that jump and masse shots do (except that you're doing the jump-/masse-shots in the same place on the table every time -- the rack area).
2. Those divots won't stay in their precise places for long. Unless the table is kept in a room with meticulously-controlled temperature and humidity, that cloth is going to shrink and stretch. Where at one time the divots were in the perfect spots to have all the balls lean up against each other, after a period of time, the divots won't line up any more, and the table will have to be "re-tapped" -- putting more divots into the cloth that are in close proximity to the previously-pounded divots, compounding the problem. In a tournament setting, this isn't a problem, because the cloth gets changed at regular intervals anyway -- probably before each tournament, in fact. But the poor home and room owners are going to curse this device for moon-cratering the racking area of their table's cloth over time.
3. For gentle break games like 14.1 or one pocket, those divots may cause problems in slightly redirecting the natural path of gently-hit balls through the rack area, especially after the balls have already been slightly broken up, and the player is trying to play a safety in the rack area. (Obviously, for power-break games like 8-ball and short-rack rotation [e.g. 9- and 10-ball], this point is moot.)
4. That's also why you'll never see tapping used in snooker -- they *always* use a triangle to rack the balls, because of the prominence of gently-hit safeties used in that cue sport. In fact, when the referee is replacing a pocketed color ball (i.e. because there's still some reds on the table), the referee *never* places the color ball directly onto its spot -- instead, he/she gently places the color ball on the cloth a slight distance away from its spot, and gently rolls/rocks the ball onto its spot. Tapping would injur the nap cloth used in snooker.
I'd say get a good quality rack (e.g. Delta-13 with the leather noise cancelers, the True-Rack, or the Diamond rack) and LEARN HOW TO USE IT CORRECTLY.
-Sean
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Mr.RS4:
The Slug-Doctor is much, MUCH better than tapping the table. With the SD, you are not injuring the cloth. Instead, you are accurately-placing little thin acetate Avery labels that, because they are so thin, rarely (if ever) disturb the path of a gently-hit ball through the rack area. This is probably the only "stay on table" racking system I've seen that has minimal adverse effect on gentle-break games like 14.1 or One Pocket.
I give the Slug-Doctor product two thumbs up in this case.
-Sean
@sfleinen & Jobba786
Thanks for you good advice :thumbup:
Reason I am looking for simulate this, are when we are playing at my billiard room, loser normally make up balls again. And it not always good as I would make them up.
Looking for a easy way to make up balls, and they stay on place, when you lift up triangle(not easy for everybody
).
I am agree with you about hit/damage table, but salesman are not agree, but I am agree with you about this.
I will be Slug-Doctor or this True-rack(that was little bit expensive that "little ting" 120$ + shipping/handling)
Thanks for you good advice :thumbup:
Reason I am looking for simulate this, are when we are playing at my billiard room, loser normally make up balls again. And it not always good as I would make them up.
Looking for a easy way to make up balls, and they stay on place, when you lift up triangle(not easy for everybody
).I am agree with you about hit/damage table, but salesman are not agree, but I am agree with you about this.
I will be Slug-Doctor or this True-rack(that was little bit expensive that "little ting" 120$ + shipping/handling)
TheThaiger
Banned
I hear slug doctors are not so good after a bit of use. Well tapped tables are very good - I wouldn't worry about the divets, especially if it's a club table - but the tapping process itself isn't guaranteed to be perfect.
Magic racks are the way to go here. Cheap, effective and easy to use.
Magic racks are the way to go here. Cheap, effective and easy to use.
Not true at all. I had the original slug doctor spots on my Anniversary for over a year now. They are still fine. That's a year of not having to put on or off the magic rack or delta rack on every break! The only way to go. You can rack the balls perfectly every time in about 5 seconds!
Not only that but the SD is not a single use product. If the dots ever do wear out or one comes off, the template can be used over and over again to easily replace the dots as needed.
That's one of the pluses of the SD - it is basically a lifetime rack that can be used over and over again on the same table as needed (like when replacing the cloth), as well as can be used on different tables.
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nice rack
While at the SBE last March, I bought a Diamond rack from the nice people standing by the beautiful Diamond table. It is constructed of fine wood and has an inlaid diamond on one point. On the rear straight side, there is a line cut in the center to aid perfect placement of the rack. It is large with plenty of room at the rear for your fingers to press on the balls to insure a tight grouping.
WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT ANYTHING ELSE?
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Kim
While at the SBE last March, I bought a Diamond rack from the nice people standing by the beautiful Diamond table. It is constructed of fine wood and has an inlaid diamond on one point. On the rear straight side, there is a line cut in the center to aid perfect placement of the rack. It is large with plenty of room at the rear for your fingers to press on the balls to insure a tight grouping.
WHY THE HELL WOULD YOU WANT ANYTHING ELSE?
?????????????????????????
Kim
Slug Doctor works well on a properly fitted table but if the cloth is loose its just as inconvenient as tapping. Fitted the template and holes perfectly, and after two weeks the head spot moved away and you couldnt attach the 1ball to anything else. Not been used since as magic racks are okay.
However...Slug Doctors outperform tapped tables and magic racks as the balls are touching but not pushed into each other. The result is a break similar to that if you rack well with a triangle - you get a good spread but it's totally natural too.
However...Slug Doctors outperform tapped tables and magic racks as the balls are touching but not pushed into each other. The result is a break similar to that if you rack well with a triangle - you get a good spread but it's totally natural too.
TheThaiger
Banned
Aren't you contradicting yourself there mate?