Cheating Stories- The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly.

The funniest one was the night a drunk stranger came into the bar. He starts betting on the side.
Tells me he wants to bet 20 on my buddy against me. We were only betting 3 bucks against each other.
As I was racking, the guy leaves to get a beer.
I told my friend to lose and he gets 10 bucks. :grin:

Why not just roll him?

Jeff Livingston
 
They were having a big added money women's tourney in Eureka in the early 90's. Eureka is surrounded by lots of sea, forest and mountains, so it's really an insulated community, and at least back then, they didn't like outsiders. It's a rough drive from anywhere, and think I was the only outsider there.

It's a race to 8, 9ball and I have to play the local favorite. It's a large mixed crowd cheering for her and supporting her, and I win the first game, she wins the second. We're marking beads on the wire above the table. After it got 1-1, I caught a good gear and won six consecutive games. She racks for me and then says, "You know I'm on the hill- I should warn you of that."

I sort of chuckled and asked what she meant- it was 7-1 me. She points at the beads and says, "That's my side. You're over there." Maybe I switched sides at 1-1, maybe I didn't- hell, I couldn't remember. But I remembered every nine I made, and where.

I went ballistic, tried every argument, asked her what 9balls in what pockets she'd made- what BALLS she'd even pocketed for that matter, looked at the crowd for response and got cold stony stares. Called the tourney director over. She told him she was on the hill and I wasn't. Much arguing. He looked at the crowd and looked at us and said, "If that's her side, then those are her games."

I could quit the tourney in protest or I could play- only options. I lost 8-4, maybe 8-5.


Maybe it's like that whole thread on not telling your opponent that they're shooting the wrong ball, but I don't honestly know if I switched sides or not. I'm throwing this in the "cheated" category.

LOL!!
When you say you turned to the crowd,,,all I picture is a bunch of dirty faces looking at you,,and not one with a full set of teeth. LMAO
 
I was sitting here this morning drinking a cup of coffee and wanting to start reading these cheating stories but it's kind of like I don't want to read them all at once and was thinking that if we started a thread where we outted every cheater by name, would it help or not?

Would people like seeing their name, city and state where they were outted? MOst likely not. Would it be a deterrent to cheating? Probably not. Oh well, another idea down the tube. Probably for the best. Most of us learn our lessons the hard way, not by some advice someone gives us, unfortunately.
 
I am playing in a local tournament and playing what the tournament has ranked as a D player....now to me a D is someone who barely knows how to hold the cue...I am a C...the guy wins the first game running 4 balls to do so after a miss by me..this making the score 3-0 (I have to spot him 2 in a race to 7) .I then bear down and win the next 6 in a row...including a 3 foul...the guy combos a 9 ball and moves his bead...breaks the next rack and halfway thru i lose control and scratch knowing this "D" can run 4-5 balls... I look over at the beads to confirm this isnt the end of the world...to find the score is now 6-5. I look around in astonishment....I look to the rail and point at the beads....they express amazement to and the guy finishes running the 4 balls and now it is a hill hill match...we get down to the 9 and proceed to have a 6-7 turn safety battle..which i won...and then missed the 9...

Incidentally the D ended up finishing 7th in a 41 field tournament..


R

That is really a sad story. The sand-bagging cheater still wins. That sucks BP oil.
 
I went to a college that boosted 35,000+ students. This university had a large student union, part of which was a pool room with dozens of 9' Gold Crowns. At the beginning of each semester my friends and I would gather at this pool room waiting for any new "students" in need of an "education".

This one time we passed this new kid around until he lost all of the money his parents had given him for living expenses, for the whole semester, housing , food, everything. The last thing we heard him say was his parents were gonna kill him. We never saw him again, and I hope it turned out OK for him in the long run. We didn't cheat him, but we did take advantage of him.



Another time time in college we did the two brothers scam on an older guy (maybe 50) in a bar. I had a drop dead pretty girl friend and it wasn't hard for her to smile her way into anything. With her help we convinced this guy everything was on the up and up. The bartender cashed this old guys paycheck for him and we proceeded to make sure he lost every bit of it.
In the end he knew he had been taken, but it was to late.


Thirty years later I still feel bad about these two scenarios, but they served to make me a very honest pool player today. Hard but honest.

I appreciate your candor. Hopefully your story will encourage the yutes coming up, that this type of hustling has a price to pay, as does most hustling.
 
Cheating stories........somehow this title got to me.
It's like 10,000 competing voices created a tower of babel in my mind.

So I expect I'll be a contributor when I settle down. I like to gamble by
the rules of poker...where you are often misrepresenting.....
...so there's a fine line between competing and cheating.
I've tried to stay on the fair side...but I aint noticed no halo around my head
either.

So how about a little musical interlude....it's about cheating.
..
http://www.google.ca/url?url=http:/...+above&usg=AFQjCNGg0t7tNvaVgRsj7TmmLIGQnCfClQ

Come with it, daddy! Swing it! Let it flow. We want to hear yours! :angel2:
 
Great topic.

I was playing at a tavern for a couple of drinks. I had been doing well all night and controlling the table. So here comes this guy and wants to bet 25 on a race to 5. I said sure and broke the balls. After winning the first 4 games I tell him I'm heading to the bathroom and I'll be right back. I start to walk into the bathroom (that's about 30 feet away from the table) and notice its full so I wait outside. I look over at my table just in time to see this guy lick his finger and stick it into the chalk!
So I finish my business and return to the table. Noticing that there is only 1 piece of chalk at this crappy tavern, I decided to act like I was chalking after every shot but don't and just use center ball hits.
This confuses the guy into thinking the chalk is ok now and after I play a nice safety he decides to use his own tainted chalk.
Sure enough genius boy miscues and I take BIH and the win the set. After he pays me I told him that the chalk at this place sucks!

Thats some funny story there.
I use to pull this one all the time when playing in some bars.Actually still do this when i need to .Both you and the guy your playing balls are tied up.(Not Ball in hand)You have know shot and if you break them out you lose.I just damp my tip a little and cue really low just to make sure i miscue .Works like a charm,I actually had to do this twice in a row on a guy.I would say damn house cues and go switch it out for another.lol
I was playing another guy one time some cheap eightball and pulled this on him.He offered to give the shot back to me.lol
 
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I was sitting here this morning drinking a cup of coffee and wanting to start reading these cheating stories but it's kind of like I don't want to read them all at once and was thinking that if we started a thread where we outted every cheater by name, would it help or not?

Would people like seeing their name, city and state where they were outted? MOst likely not. Would it be a deterrent to cheating? Probably not. Oh well, another idea down the tube. Probably for the best. Most of us learn our lessons the hard way, not by some advice someone gives us, unfortunately.

Probally not Joey...We've had threads about people that shoot air barrels where most think they should be outed but still got some that think..well long as they didn't shoot a air barrel @ me it's ok..Cheating & Shooting air barrels fall in the same catagory in my book & I don't believe nobody should get a free pass & should be exposed...You've known me A long time Joey & seen me take my fair share of losses with some going well into the thousands & I bet you nver heard of me stiffing/cheating anyone...Back in the day we did stuff like laying a lemon or 2 to throw off my players true speed but never cheated/aired...Some people feel like it's all the same...I myself see a clear difference...One is hustling the other is downright stealing...just my 2 cents on the matter.
 
Probally not Joey...We've had threads about people that shoot air barrels where most think they should be outed but still got some that think..well long as they didn't shoot a air barrel @ me it's ok..Cheating & Shooting air barrels fall in the same catagory in my book & I don't believe nobody should get a free pass & should be exposed...You've known me A long time Joey & seen me take my fair share of losses with some going well into the thousands & I bet you nver heard of me stiffing/cheating anyone...Back in the day we did stuff like laying a lemon or 2 to throw off my players true speed but never cheated/aired...Some people feel like it's all the same...I myself see a clear difference...One is hustling the other is downright stealing...just my 2 cents on the matter.

I've never heard of YOU stiffing anyone or cheating anyone and dat dere is de honest to gawd troot.
 
I'm not sure if this counts, but a guy I used to play at a bar years ago used to amaze me with how often he ran out....every time I went to the bathroom.



I don't care if someone shoots while I'm in the john if we're not betting, but I swear to god, with this one guy, every single time I came out it was "oh I ran out the table". So one time I asked the bartender to watch and he confirmed that as soon as I went into the bathroom this guy swept the balls down and waited, and as soon as I came out it was "oh I ran the table".



What the hell? Why would you even do that if you're not even playing for anything? What would be the point? This was on a quarter table also. I still don't understand it to this day. :confused:
 
I'm not sure if this counts, but a guy I used to play at a bar years ago used to amaze me with how often he ran out....every time I went to the bathroom.



I don't care if someone shoots while I'm in the john if we're not betting, but I swear to god, with this one guy, every single time I came out it was "oh I ran out the table". So one time I asked the bartender to watch and he confirmed that as soon as I went into the bathroom this guy swept the balls down and waited, and as soon as I came out it was "oh I ran the table".



What the hell? Why would you even do that if you're not even playing for anything? What would be the point? This was on a quarter table also. I still don't understand it to this day. :confused:

Mysticism.

Jeff Livingston
 
Why not just roll him?

Jeff Livingston

That was the condensed story. When I say he was drunk, what he really was , was a loudmouthed obnoxious drunk that was trying to pull crap with me. Neither my friend nor myself appreciated it. He got what was coming to him.
 
That was the condensed story. When I say he was drunk, what he really was , was a loudmouthed obnoxious drunk that was trying to pull crap with me. Neither my friend nor myself appreciated it. He got what was coming to him.

Don't let Jeff bother you, he's just a washed-up, bitter, old POS.
 
When I was a kid (21) in 1987 I was in Ras Tanurah Saudi Arabia playing 8 ball with these brothers from Montreal. We were playing 100 riyals a game, about $26. I was winning most of them, and getting a pretty good buzz on. The last game we decided to play for 500 riyals or $130. It came down to the last shot and he had a pretty tough shot, a cut down the rail 3/4 the length of the table. As he was shooting I was distracted, and the ball went in. I lost, and being an honest trusting and somewhat drunk 21 year old I paid up. Later that night a girl told me he missed the shot and his brother grabbed the ball and put it in the pocket. I couldn't believe it, as I was a very honest gambler. I looked for them for two days, and they managed to dodge me until they left the Kingdom, and I never saw them again. I wanted to beat the shit out of both of them, but instead I learned a valuable gambling lesson at a young age.
 
Good for you that you not only won, but you beat him at his own "game" (I'm not talking about the 8-ball game here ;)).

Funny, I've read on this site MANY good things about your opponent in that match. I guess at some point ANY poolplayer might have a lapse of reasoning.

Uh, count that as two lapses of reasoning, but I won't go into the details.
 
ive posted this story before on az. so regulars on az pardon the repost

I was in school at UF and action was hard to find in Gainesville so one night we heard that a local room owner in Ocala was going off some and would play. So me and a buddy hop in a car and go 30 min south to Ocala. We walk in the door and horrors! There is John Ferber playing our designated mark some 1 pocket. On this occasion though, John had underestimated the 1 pocket game of his opponent and was in a bad spot giving up too much weight. The bet was a race to 5 for $300 as I remember it, a good wager in the late 80s for Ocala Florida.

The score was something like 2-1 in games and John was down a few balls to nothing in the 4th game. His opponent slows kicks at a ball and doesnt hit a rail.

Ferber yells "Thats a faaawwwlll" with his hick accent and walks over and picks up the cue ball.

"What the hell do you think your doing?" His opponent says.

"W'all it was a fawwwll and I gets ball in hand on a fawwwl raaht?"

"Hell no you dont!"

They argued back and forth until finally the guy Ferber was playing cracked his cue in anger and told John the game was over and to get the hell out.

Me and my buddy were stunned at this move. Ferber knew exactly that if he played stupid and cried FAWWWWWLL then it might just end this bad game. We didnt get the owner to play us either. He was so mad at Ferber he wouldnt play anyone and just sat there drinking beer biatching about Honest John.
 
I was playing in a Valley 8 ball league a long while back against a player I will call Jeff. Jeff was a player that would go to extremes to win a game. Jeff could shoot but would often as happen was our team would out shoot his. So Jeff would often have to go to the dark side to win.

With both teams tied for first and the first two rounds split between us it was Jeff that broke against me. The spread of the table had the 4 solids blocked by the 8ball and so he naturally ran out the stripes at the open end of the table down to his last stripe. The 8 ball although it was close to the corner pocket was surrounded by an army of solids making the window very small to make it. His position on the last remaining stripe was a straight in long shot requiring plenty of draw. In perfect line on draw back was a solid that he knew and I knew would not allow him the position he needed even if he could draw like Mike Massey as he was slightly jacked up.

A extended long period of thinking out the shot ensued; causing everyone that was once glued to the game to become disinterested. Then he shot the shot with plenty of draw and as whitey started backing up he pushed the interfering solid to the side with his bridge hand ninety degrees away from the cue ball line.

I yell out, "Foul" but nobody was watching. I said,"You purposely moved the solid"...he answers back "I accidently brushed it!" The result was the cue ball rested perfectly in tiny window of position he needed for a straight in 8 ball. He smiled at me knowing he cheated and that I did too but the rules were in his favor. A long argument followed but nobody saw a thing. My word against his.

The only thing I could do was move the solid back to its original position and let him shoot the 8ball for the win. They finally beat us that night.
 
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