Cheating Stories- The Good, the Bad, & the Ugly.

This reminded me of a time in the poolhall when I saw a couple at the jukebox looking as though they were picking out tunes. I liked the kind of music that was playing at that time so I ambled over and gave them a $10 bill and told them to play whatever they liked. I went back over to my table to keep score for a league 9-ball match. Eight or ten minutes later I noticed the music had stopped. I looked over to where the couple had been sitting and they had split, taking my $10 bill with them of course :thumbup:!!!

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Hahahahaha!
I like that story. Not too painful and kind of funny.
 
Love it!

Great topic.

I was playing at a tavern for a couple of drinks. I had been doing well all night and controlling the table. So here comes this guy and wants to bet 25 on a race to 5. I said sure and broke the balls. After winning the first 4 games I tell him I'm heading to the bathroom and I'll be right back. I start to walk into the bathroom (that's about 30 feet away from the table) and notice its full so I wait outside. I look over at my table just in time to see this guy lick his finger and stick it into the chalk!
So I finish my business and return to the table. Noticing that there is only 1 piece of chalk at this crappy tavern, I decided to act like I was chalking after every shot but don't and just use center ball hits.
This confuses the guy into thinking the chalk is ok now and after I play a nice safety he decides to use his own tainted chalk.
Sure enough genius boy miscues and I take BIH and the win the set. After he pays me I told him that the chalk at this place sucks!

I'm reading these in order and your cheating story gets an A+. . SWEET!
 
There is a guy that plays in one of the local joints that is on the umm ... large side. He's got a gut bigger than Chumlee on Pawn Stars. The thing is, this guy must have taken belly dancer lessons or something. EVERY time he leans over one of his object balls that is touching the rail it comes out about 3 inches and every time he leans over one of his opponent's object balls that is out a few inches it ends up tightly against the rail when he stands up.

Unless you jump out of your seat and squat down to try to look under his belly (not an enjoyable activity, I'm sure), you would never see it. He's a pro at this!
 
Not really a cheating story, but I played a league match a few weeks back where I dropped a brutal safety shot on my opponent... he thought it was BIH and nearly picked up the CB before I stopped him. The shot had barely grazed my ball (definitely good though, because before the shot I could still see a speck of white on the solid near the table surface and it was completely hidden after the shot) and it certainly looked very close from a distance. I'm a very honest person, and really, it's league... what's the point in cheating? the ball in question was very close to the cb and I was shooting jacked up, almost away from the OB... no idea why the guy was standing 10+ ft from the table/hadn't called a ref on a shot that would obviously be controversial. He accepted my "fair hit" call somewhat bitterly and fires dark looks at me every time I see him now... What am I supposed to do??? I don't want to stir trouble/beef, but at the same time I pulled a good shot so he didn't deserve BIH???

Still a good story. Those guys who do the dark look thing are funny people. I know a couple on this forum that give the dark looks. :p It doesn't bother me a bit. I actually laugh about it and like you, I talk about it especially if someone else sees the dark look. Lol
 
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I'm on Rshellhouse right now and haven't read that one. I want to save some of these for another day.

This has been a lot of fun. Thanks for the laughs everyone. Keep them coming.
 
I've read this whole thread and can't help but feel a little pissed off at some of the scum that you guys have had to play!
 
I've read this whole thread and can't help but feel a little pissed off at some of the scum that you guys have had to play!

goes with the territory...Any time u got laws u got outlaws & everything else falls somewhere in between
 
Many years back I used to play this guy they called the Preacher. He liked playing eight ball, a game that I had way the best of. One day this stranger came over and sat next to our table to watch. He sat there watching for a good while.

At one point in time I excused myself for a bathroom break. After I returned and took my shot this stranger leans over to me and said that when I went to the restroom the Preacher cheated and moved some balls with his hand. I then whispered to him that that's why I go to the rest room.

A++! :cool:
 
The obvious way to avoid this type of incident is to make EVERY table foul a FOUL. I never play anyone for any serious money where the rules allow people to move balls and then attempt to move them back and continue shooting. A foul is a FOUL in my opinion.

The same goes for the "one foot on the floor" rule and any other foul that usually ends up in some kind of controversy.

Then the rules of one pocket would have to be changed.....
 
When I had my room on Long Island I had 8 9 footers and 1 billiard table. The billiard table was about 20' from the front door. 10' over the door was a 2 ton A/C unit. On rainy, humid,or hot days changing the setting on the A/C would quickly change the angles on the billiard table to play short or long, whichever I wanted. So if someone I was playing looked like he had a chance to get into my wallet I went in the back of my counter and adjusted the A/C/ billiard table angles. Johnnyt

Naughty boy. I'll tell our naughty boy story tomorrow. You reminded me about our own Earl Heisler and his "moves".
 
Many years back I used to play this guy they called the Preacher. He liked playing eight ball, a game that I had way the best of. One day this stranger came over and sat next to our table to watch. He sat there watching for a good while.

At one point in time I excused myself for a bathroom break. After I returned and took my shot this stranger leans over to me and said that when I went to the restroom the Preacher cheated and moved some balls with his hand. I then whispered to him that that's why I go to the rest room.

If you'd let me get away with that...You'd have a customer for life..lol
 
They were having a big added money women's tourney in Eureka in the early 90's. Eureka is surrounded by lots of sea, forest and mountains, so it's really an insulated community, and at least back then, they didn't like outsiders. It's a rough drive from anywhere, and think I was the only outsider there.

It's a race to 8, 9ball and I have to play the local favorite. It's a large mixed crowd cheering for her and supporting her, and I win the first game, she wins the second. We're marking beads on the wire above the table. After it got 1-1, I caught a good gear and won six consecutive games. She racks for me and then says, "You know I'm on the hill- I should warn you of that."

I sort of chuckled and asked what she meant- it was 7-1 me. She points at the beads and says, "That's my side. You're over there." Maybe I switched sides at 1-1, maybe I didn't- hell, I couldn't remember. But I remembered every nine I made, and where.

I went ballistic, tried every argument, asked her what 9balls in what pockets she'd made- what BALLS she'd even pocketed for that matter, looked at the crowd for response and got cold stony stares. Called the tourney director over. She told him she was on the hill and I wasn't. Much arguing. He looked at the crowd and looked at us and said, "If that's her side, then those are her games."

I could quit the tourney in protest or I could play- only options. I lost 8-4, maybe 8-5.


Maybe it's like that whole thread on not telling your opponent that they're shooting the wrong ball, but I don't honestly know if I switched sides or not. I'm throwing this in the "cheated" category.

That might break a record for being the lowest of the low-downs!
 
goes with the territory...Any time u got laws u got outlaws & everything else falls somewhere in between

Yea, you're right.

It's just sad the crap that some people try (and some do) to get away with.

Not that it justifies it but the tournament, money sets, I could sort of see where they're coming from a little bit more. But to cheat in league play? It's no wonder one of the guys that replied in this thread never played again in that league.
 
The hall where we used to play was on the second floor of an old warehouse.
It had quite a few large cast soil stacks from the floor up to the ceiling.

There was a large group of natives partying and had approx a $150 tab with one of the waitresses. All of a sudden, two of the natives started what looked like a fight. One of the girls took a can of pepper spray from her purse and started spraying it. The fight and pepper spray were obviously started to create a diversion while the rest of them headed for the door to jump an unpaid tab.

When the bosses weren't around there was myself and a couple of others that had complete permission to do what ever we had to do to keep law and order. Well, it just so happened that one of the bigger boys, always looking for an excuse to hit someone happened to be sitting at a table close to the fight.

He went over to break up the fight and one of the natives ended up getting his head seriously slammed into one of those cast soil stacks that I had mentioned earlier.

So, quite funny that the small diversionary fight tactic turned into what I would consider a massive head ache for one of the scammers.
You would have had to been there to see the look on the guys face after his head ricocheted off the stack. Total bewilderment that he didn't expect.

Maybe they will change their tactics after that one.
 
Cheating stories........somehow this title got to me.
It's like 10,000 competing voices created a tower of babel in my mind.

So I expect I'll be a contributor when I settle down. I like to gamble by
the rules of poker...where you are often misrepresenting.....
...so there's a fine line between competing and cheating.
I've tried to stay on the fair side...but I aint noticed no halo around my head
either.

So how about a little musical interlude....it's about cheating.
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http://www.google.ca/url?url=http:/...+above&usg=AFQjCNGg0t7tNvaVgRsj7TmmLIGQnCfClQ
 
As a young 15 year old player was playing the pool room scruff Stavy the greek a race to 9 for 1k he was getting backed by the pool room owner at 8 to 8 I was breaking for the set and I happen to snap in the 9. In a pool room full of people that were all watching the set he proceeds to quickly reach in the old brunswick drop pocket and pull out the 9ball leaving it by the pocket, pretending that I did not make it on the break. After the whole pool room witnessed it and he realized his ruse would not work he dumfounded me even more He faked a heart attack only in a pool room you cant make this stuff up. This was from the same guy that lost a bet once to a road player getting huge weight in onehole after losing 800 getting hijacked he asked the player if he would settle for 400 the player agreed since it was a heist Stavy then said to him "ok I owe you 400" only in America
 
Two guys are playing cheap on 9 foot GC. Race to 9 for like $50 and it's hill to hill. We all know each other so it's all friendly and for sport. The guy shoots, misses, but just barely, barely hooks his opponent where he can't see the object ball. As he is walking away from the talbe he just kind of glances at the table and says "I think you are hooked, too bad". He knows this one is in the bag.

Well he is standing behind the oncoming shooter so he can't really see the table. The shooter is leaning over the table, getting down looking, it is really, really close. He bends over a second time, like his is looking really close, but he puts his nose on the ball that had him hooked and moves is just a fraction so he can see the object ball. He back cuts the object ball in the corner pocket and runs the two remaining balls that were gimmies. The entire room falls out laughing, I mean it is pandamonium. The guy that lost can't figure out what the hell is so funny as he just lost $50.. After a few minutes, the guy that cheated, fesses up and shows his opponent how he was able to see the object ball, and pays off the $50. The place erupted again. It was hilarious. We still talk about that "move". :smile:
 
I am retired USAF and back in the early 70's I was on Okinawa and would go into the Airman's club and play the bar box there for whatever action I could get. A big guy and several of his friends came in and wanted to play me 9 ball for 10 a game. We usually came out about even. I knew these guys were here on TDY and would one day leave with no warning. I always insisted that we pay after each game. The last time we played he kept giving excuses that all he had was a hundred bill and he would get change for it later. I insisted that he show it to me and he did. So on we played and I get up 60 and he "goes to the bathroom" and disappears, along with his buddies. So I make a few calls and find out his unit is going back to the states the next day. I had overheard them talking several times about the "weed" they were taking back with them. Called my buddy who was an MP and suggested that they check these guys bags. The MP's found a buch of pot and arrested the big guy. The morale of the story: Sometimes payback's can be a *****!
 
The rest of the story

Here are a few:

A good player we will call Dick was playing probably the worst player in the room we will call Joe. Well Joe was on my team in the in house league and he is arguably one of the nicest guys you will ever meet but he is challenged both in his pool game and in life. Well Dick is playing him a race 7 to 2 and Dick's team desperately needs the win in this winner take all format. He looked at two balls, his stripe and Joe's solid tied up on a rail and no way to make either. I watched him look at it several times during the game then watched him play shape where he was stroking over the combo. Strangely his knuckles drag the balls free (after he had just looked at them right before getting down on the shot). He saw me looking and asked what I wanted him to do. I told him to move them back. He moves them where they are still free and makable. I said "Really?" He moves them another 1/4 of an inch but still untied and makable. It was a waste of time and breathe. The bad thing is Dick could win legitimately, but always chooses to take the easy way out. He asked me if I wanted to practice a few weeks later before league. I told him "No thank you, I am not as forgiving when someone cheats me."

Two local heroes were playing some several years back for a good sum of money. They were hill/hill when one guy is running out but getting worse shape for the next ball as he goes. Each shot, worse shape on the next shot but finally gets down to the money ball. He makes an extremely tough cut but has to put some force on the cue and it zips around the table as the last ball falls. The cue hits the head rail in perfect line for a scratch at the other end corner pocket. The cue had scrubbed off speed at this point and was rolling slow but going for the pocket. The shooter gets down on the table and starts to yell at the ball, telling it to stop, which finally stops about an inch or less from a scratch. Then the argument starts. The other guy refuses to pay saying the guy breathing on the rolling ball slowed it from scratching. Multiple BS! started flying around the room. I do not know if that debt was ever paid.

To go along with the last story I did watch a very large man try to blow on a cue ball one time to try to get it to move while talking about this story at a later date. Well this big guy jumps up to the table trying to prove his point that it could be done and starts blowing his lungs out trying to get the ball to move. After a few seconds the guy is out of breathe and light headed and close to passing out but still wouldn't shut up about it and catch his breathe. He finally sat on the floor, out of breathe but pleading his case between panting. It was alarming but funny as hell afterwards.
 
What is even more lame is that it is a foul if you don't ask someone if it is BIH, even when there are witnesses that the guy committed the foul first. That's a terrible rule if it is a rule. What league is that in?

Yes, I agree. Lame rule..It's Valley League.

Once a Ref shows and is informed on what is going on. His question(to me) was,,did I ask if it was BIH? He did not care if original BIH/foul even happened.

I believe they only enforced this rule at state tournament.And may have modified this rule since ,,IDK.

But out of the 1000's of games played since or even before this. This is the only meat whistle ,I know of,, that abused the rule.
He has not been seen since!!!
 
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