Did you know this about Buddy Hall, The man!!!

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Buddy The Rifleman Hall
Players Call Him The Rifleman because he Shoots Them All Down Others Call Him The Hustler....
The Best 9-Ball Player in the World, Buddy Hall

Kreole Freddie, they call him, and he's been around the game for twenty years or so. He's won his share of money shooting in every kind of joint, from two-table bars to the biggest tournaments in the biggest rooms around. He's traveled with most of the players whose names are household words now, and he knows them all. So I asked Kreole just who he thought was the best 9-ball player he'd ever seen, and he didn't hesitate a second."Buddy Hall," he said, "period!" And when I asked him to elaborate on that short answer, here is what he told me:

"Well, you know Rick, there's Luther Lassiter, and Earl Strickland, St. Louis Louie, and The Cincinnati Kid (Don Willis), before he died. And of course you've got Efren Reyes, and all those guys from the Northeast like (Mike) Sigel, (Jim) Rempe, Alan Hopkins, (Steve) Mizerak, Ray Martin, Lou Butera. They're all good 9-ball players, and there's a lot of others you never even heard of, but when it comes to gamble, to the big money in the back rooms, Buddy's beat them all."

"I remember when Luther Lassiter was considered the best pool player in the world, and I talked to him once about Buddy. He said that even as good as he (Luther) played 9-ball, he'd never play Buddy straight up. And Don Willis, before he died, told me that Buddy shot better than anybody. The only problem, he said, was that Buddy didn't always get the best rolls. I know that's true now, and believe me, there's something to getting a good roll now and then. But even with that handicap, I'd still put my money on Buddy against anybody in a high-stakes game."

"When it comes to rolls, Mike Sigel probably gets the best rolls in the game, and Mike is without a doubt the best tournament player alive right now, but in the back room, where the real money changes hands, that's where Buddy can make a fool out of the best players you've ever seen."

"Every body knows that Earl Strickland is a superb 9-ball player, and one of the things that makes him so strong is that Earl breaks the balls better than anybody around. Another thing is that you can't hook Earl, because Earl jumps the ball so good."

"I remember a time down in Tampa, in the back room at Rocky Point Resort, when St. Louis Louie tried about six times to beat Earl, and Earl beat him out of about $12,000. When it was over, Earl finally had enough ammo and had been playing good enough that he went after Buddy. Earl had beat Sigel twice for $1,000 a set, and he had beat Louie - that's when Louie was a world-class player-and Buddy shot him down in cold blood. I mean he literally destroyed the guy."

"Then there was that big tournament out in Houston in 1985 when Efren Reyes came up. We were all out there and Reyes won the tournament. Afterwards Reyes beat Sigel, he beat Earl, he beat me and Wade Crane out of $1,700, and when all this was over, the only person left was Buddy, and Buddy absolutely crucified him. He beat him so bad, he put so many balls on him, that the guy just....I mean as much gamble as Efren has, he just wilted. And it seems that ever since, he hasn't played quite as well. You know, I can understand it, I mean Buddy was just awesome."

"And all those guys from the Northeast - Sigel, Rempe, Alan Hopkins, Mizerak, Ray Martin, Lou Butera - all that bunch, Buddy broke 'em all, they were sucking eggs when he got through with them - they almost stopped gambling. Every time they'd run up on him, he'd just eat 'em alive."

"I remember a time when Rempe had won 23 tournaments in a row, and headed out west. He had this stake horse who was a swimming pool manufacturer or something. Anyway, the guy had a ton of money. So they went out to Oklahoma City to play Buddy at True Love's Pool Room, and I remember sitting there and saying, 'There's nobody in the world that can beat Jim Rempe--nobody!' Well, Buddy just massacred him. I never saw Rempe bet a quarter after that, and in all the tournaments I've seen him in since, he's never quite reached his peak again. This is a guy that won 23 tournaments in a row, a guy who's respected as one of the best players ever, but it seemed like after Buddy beat him, he was just demoralized."

"Same thing happened to Sigel. Sigel is beyond a doubt the best tournament player in the country, but, when it comes to the gamble, I don't think he's ever recovered from the beating Buddy gave him."

Mike Massey, David Howard, Buddy Hall and Dennis Hatch together.

"Hubbard and Sigel drove out to Oklahoma City and they had about $20,000 each. They got out of the car and went into the poolroom and Hubbard sat there and watched Sigel hit several balls. Sigel was drilling them, really splitting the wick, and Hubbard says 'Mike, you're ready'. So Sigel played Buddy for $10,000 a set, and Buddy made him look like a diaper boy. I mean he got out from everywhere. He walked balls down the rails, he twisted them in from impossible angles, he made that cue ball do things it's not supposed to be able to do. He literally hypnotized Sigel."

"You know, I've played Buddy, and I remember practicing with him one time down in Tampa, or maybe I should say he practiced; I didn't get to shoot but about once every hour. I was so careful about making a ball when I finally did get a shot, and so cold from the wait, that my arm would just stiffen up. When you watch a guy shoot like Buddy can, and you have to wait and wait and wait for a chance to hit a ball, he's one up on you right there, and that's exactly what happened to those guys that took him on."

"They call Buddy the Rifleman, and it's a fitting name, the way he rifles ball in and shoots players down in cold blood. I don't know, there are probably some people who disagree, but me, I say Buddy Hall is the best money 9-ball player there ever was."
This Article was originally published in The Snap Magazine, August 1989
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Buddy and I sweated several hours of Cliff and Bart playing one pocket several years ago. The entire time Buddy was telling me what shot they should shoot and why they shouldn't have shot the particular shot they did..... It was one of the most important lessons I ever received in pool. Buddy is a bad man.....
 
Has he ever played even close to this speed the article indicates he had on video? I have watched alot of Buddy Hall video from the 80's, as much as I can find, and I have never seen him play at a level close to the peak I have seen Sigel or Earl or Efren on video. Now maybe he is just the epitome of a hustler and the instant the camera was turned on he went into intentional dog mode, but no video I have ever seen of him has ever made me think "man, that guys is the best 9-ball player ever", and I mean not even close. I have seen video of Sigel playing near perfect, seemingly unbeatable, I have seen Earl play unbelieavbly sick offensive pool, I have seen Efren play absolutely insanely good to where if he ever had a actual top break he would have won everything. I have never seen a video of Buddy that has really impressed me. I know the stories, I know he is a supposed cash game legend, but his actual top speed is a mystery to anyone who was not there if he actually had that type of game to slaughter the above mentioned players like that article indicates.
 
I watched Buddy play many players and many hours at Times Square Cue Club in Dallas and Red Box,s Guys and Dolls in Shreveport in the 70s...Greg Stevens beat Buddy one night in Dallas ...But Buddy beat him two more times later in the week ...That was the only player that i saw beat Buddy Hall playing even 9 nine ball two foul ....And yes all the players lock and load named above came thru too ...Buddy made it look so simple , how could you not get out lol......
 
Not too many years back, Jimmy Rempe told me that he has never
played 9 ball with Buddy Hall that he didn't learn something.
Pretty strong statement coming from Rempe, I'd say. :thumbup:
 
I personally watched Buddy beat Allen Hopkins 9-2 Allen missed 1 ball and hardly a soul applauded because at the same time Dallas West ran 9nout on John SHUPIT. Buddy went on to win that tournament and shot like .940 for the tournament . Pat Flemming did accustat . That was on bar rag in 84 the bar rag shootout in ia. PS Sigel got beat 95 by bushwacker then96 by d matlock. earl just *****ed it was bar tables 'when he lost'.
 
Lock
My favorite strokers for a long time were Buddy Hall, Raymond Ceulemans,
and Steve Davis. I told Buddy once that I've told snooker players to watch
his stroke...'cause it can handle any game. Buddy said not to forget Steve
Mizerak...sweetest stroker of all time.

It's true as far as I know that Buddy gave Efren his biggest loss playing
even up on American soil. All of us who knew Buddy were not surprised.

Just to keep the record straight, it was Weenie Beenie's Jack'n'Jill Cue Club
in Arlington VA where Buddy played Jim Rempe.
My second-hand account came from the guy who did the best of the side-
bettors on that match...Pittsburgh John.
He figured that though Rempe had the 'name'...Buddy was the tougher
money player and he cleaned up. That was probably the last time for many
years that Buddy was not the betting favorite at 9-ball.

regards
double hemlock
 
Hey Double HemLock, did you like the story?

Lock
My favorite strokers for a long time were Buddy Hall, Raymond Ceulemans,
and Steve Davis. I told Buddy once that I've told snooker players to watch
his stroke...'cause it can handle any game. Buddy said not to forget Steve
Mizerak...sweetest stroker of all time.

It's true as far as I know that Buddy gave Efren his biggest loss playing
even up on American soil. All of us who knew Buddy were not surprised.

Just to keep the record straight, it was Weenie Beenie's Jack'n'Jill Cue Club
in Arlington VA where Buddy played Jim Rempe.
My second-hand account came from the guy who did the best of the side-
bettors on that match...Pittsburgh John.
He figured that though Rempe had the 'name'...Buddy was the tougher
money player and he cleaned up. That was probably the last time for many
years that Buddy was not the betting favorite at 9-ball.

regards
double hemlock

I talked to Buddy tonight and he just got out of the hospital, and was feeling a little weak. He was in the hospital for 8 or 9 days. he is doing much better though. I was glad to hear that! We talked a little while and then I let him go so he could rest up a bit. He is a very nice guy! I got his OK to put this on AZB. I do not know why the photos did not come out in the write up!
Double HemLock, you have to put some Caps on your new name! Thanks for your post regarding Buddy as well. Buddy beat a lot of the best players, whenever he played for money.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
After Lassiter, Buddy was The Man in this country for a long, long time. Parica was The Man overseas, not Efren. Too bad Buddy and Jose never played. Probably too much respect for each other. I call that match a toss up.
 
I have not heard anything from Freddie lately!

I miss the Snap magazine. What is Freddie Yates up to now?

The Magazine was good. Buddy was shooting great during this time. He still plays real good. I watched him play in New Orleans, Louisiana last year at Buffalo's Billiards, the Worlds Pool Hall.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.
 
Before he was the "Rifleman", his nickname was "Rags". In the mid 70's, nobody could get there.
 
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Buddy.., its close

I have seen them all play in Houston and all over the country...., its close.

Buddy did beat Efren in Houston, but I dont know of them matching up again for cash and Efren dominates the tournaments.

Parica had a winning record against Efren for a while, but thats been a long time ago...., its close.

Wish they could have played each other heads up more, throw in Greg Steveson and I think we got the top 4 money guys of all time....,

P.S. Grady broke even with Buddy after 2 day of play at Guys and Dolls when Buddy was playing his best!!
 
I talked to Buddy tonight and he just got out of the hospital, and was feeling a little weak. He was in the hospital for 8 or 9 days. he is doing much better though. I was glad to hear that! We talked a little while and then I let him go so he could rest up a bit. He is a very nice guy! I got his OK to put this on AZB. I do not know why the photos did not come out in the write up!
Double HemLock, you have to put some Caps on your new name! Thanks for your post regarding Buddy as well. Buddy beat a lot of the best players, whenever he played for money.
Many Regards,
Lock N Load.

Hey, Lock
If you see Buddy again, would you please check that he played Rempe at
Weenie Beenie's place? I'm double checking Pittsburgh John's memory now.

I gave Buddy a ride back to his hotel once...as we're walking to my Ram-
Charger I told him to wipe his feet before he got in 'cause I like a neat
vehicle. He sat down and looked back and all he saw was cues, cases, and
books all over the place....he leaned on the window sill and started laughing that crazy laugh of his....I asked him to calm down for a minute
and tell me his hotel....he started laughing even harder.
...yeah, I'm a bit disorganized...:o

...and I don't like using capital letters on my signature....
..some days it's a product of my self esteem....:rolleyes:
..some days it's to remind me to be humble...:angel2:

regards
double hemlock
 
I heard that both Buddy and Efren didn't play all that well in their match at Red's. Efren had been up for days or something like that.
 
I heard that both Buddy and Efren didn't play all that well in their match at Red's. Efren had been up for days or something like that.
i have herd that as well however so was a lot of the other players!! apples to apples, Efren still lost to buddy!
 
I agree that Buddy is arguably the greatest American 9b'er.

But:rolleyes::o
1. It has been alleged that Efren's camp decided to lose to Buddy in '85 to both get out of town with a significant portion of the winning and to make Efren look like he beatable.
B. as well as Buddy played, he did get spanked by Lebron.
 
I think Buddy was over 50 when he won the US Open. I sat with him at lunch once and asked him about gambling with the Filipinos and he told me that he challenged Parica, Efren, and Bustamante to each play him one right after the other and they all declined, or I guess their backers declined.

Buddy's greatest pool was probably played long before people started filming it though. Throughout his 20s he was probably seriously dangerous.
 
Has he ever played even close to this speed the article indicates he had on video?

Have you seen the Accu-Stats video of Buddy and Sigel in the finals race to 13 9-ball where Buddy wins like 13-7? This was around '86 or '87, I don't remember the tournament (might have been in Memphis). Buddy played absolutely perfect pool and you could tell that Sigel himself knew he had no chance.
 
I agree that Buddy is arguably the greatest American 9b'er.

But:rolleyes::o
1. It has been alleged that Efren's camp decided to lose to Buddy in '85 to both get out of town with a significant portion of the winning and to make Efren look like he beatable.
B. as well as Buddy played, he did get spanked by Lebron.

That might be what is alleged but the way I heard it and read it Buddy put a nice sized package on Efren to start the set. So if Effie was told to dump Buddy made it unnecessary.
 
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