Dpk or kirsenbrock id
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i don't have it in my hands, or i would, the price the seller is asking, is what i believe to be top dollar, i'm not willing to pay for the authentication
Although I haven't worked on many Omega's, I don't believe that they did either, 5 point nor flare. I have however worked on and made a number of S/W shafts. Old DPKs and S/W however can be differentiated as they had different pins. The old DPKs pin, although the same thread was a little larger than the S/W's. A DPK shaft will go onto a S/W but loosely where as a S/W shaft is to tight of a fit on a DPK.
Dick
Authentication
When I bought a predate southwest I paid for the authentication. I asked the seller if he was willing to send it to Laurie and if she said it was authentic then I would pay him if it wasn't the cue was his no money changed hands till I got word that it was real. No price on peace of mind knowing what you got is genuine. If the seller refuses than walk away.
When I bought a predate southwest I paid for the authentication. I asked the seller if he was willing to send it to Laurie and if she said it was authentic then I would pay him if it wasn't the cue was his no money changed hands till I got word that it was real. No price on peace of mind knowing what you got is genuine. If the seller refuses than walk away.
Dick, i'm now told that southwest used a 3/-11 pin while omega dpk used a 3/18-14 pin
No malice intent, just trying to identify what this gentleman is triyng to sell me.
thanks
Send it to Laurie...she has all the record and they can tell you if it's a SW or SW DPK. I had a really nice old SW made in 1985-88 and it turn out to be a cue that DPK work on while he was at SW. So they know very well who make what cue.
Regards,
Duc.
Regards,
Duc.
I just contacted the seller, now he's reluctant, to send it to Laurie, stating that it should be authenticated by bender. He's advertising it as a dpk kersenbrock. in all actuality
I'm beginning to think this cue is bogus, like the seller
To top it off he's trying to push this cue stating he has others wanting it. i told him to move on, i just have a gut feeling about this guy and this cue.
Kersenbrock and Omega/ dpk are two different animals. Which one are you considering buying? If it is a Omega then Laurie would probably not be the right person to send it to. A couple of pictures is all it would take.
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Lol... Really?! This needed to be quoted. Save us all.
Hi,
Omega had 3/8" 14 and David Kersenbrock 3/8 11. Omega DPK had the flair but discontinued it in the early 90s because they were fragile and chipped.
The Omegas were about .020 thicker than Kersenbrock at the nose and the taper geometry is very different. Omega had a A Joint size that is much thicker.
Rick
Omega had 3/8" 14 and David Kersenbrock 3/8 11. Omega DPK had the flair but discontinued it in the early 90s because they were fragile and chipped.
The Omegas were about .020 thicker than Kersenbrock at the nose and the taper geometry is very different. Omega had a A Joint size that is much thicker.
Rick
Murray's right...Omega/DPK is completely different than Kersenbrock.
Only the Omega/DPK has the flare and *3/8-14 pin...(which i believe mike bender uses in his cues now).
example:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=3455402
Omega/DPK was started with Kersenbrock...and Mike Bender did a majority of the cues. Only the super fancy Omega DPK's were done by Kersenbrock
here's what i believe to be an example of a Kersenbrock that was made at the Omega/DPK shop:
http://www.pccues.com/ProductDetails.aspx?productID=549
Look at the pin..looks like an 3/8-14 pin...the same one used for Omega/DPK
In December 2010 ..some left over Omega DPK blanks/ unfinished cues were sold by scdiveteam ...azb member.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=213507&highlight=omega
A few of these were completed but not by Kersenbrock or Mike Bender.
Bottom line..when looking for a Kersenbrock..make sure it is regardless of the fee.
Did Bender do the pantograph work on Omega DPK cues or did David do most of the Pantograph work? Back when they were still going someone told me that they kept David doing inlay work while the others built the cues.
As far as i know...all the inlay worked was only done on fancy cues..was done by DPK..keep in mind that the inlay cues were a minimum of $10k
So it makes sense that DPK was only doing high dollar orders and everyone else was doing non inlayed cues.
So it makes sense that DPK was only doing high dollar orders and everyone else was doing non inlayed cues.
Sorry. I misread your post. I was referring to the difference between a S/W and a DPK.
Dick
Maybe I'm wrong here,but I was told years ago that a solid reference point was looking at the center-drilled hole in the end of the pin.
If you see a great big,deep hole,it's a Kersenbrock,or at least one he worked on there,the way it was explained to me.
If you see a nice,clean hole done to correct depth (for a #2 c-drill) in the nose,it's a SW. Tommy D.
If you see a great big,deep hole,it's a Kersenbrock,or at least one he worked on there,the way it was explained to me.
If you see a nice,clean hole done to correct depth (for a #2 c-drill) in the nose,it's a SW. Tommy D.