left-eye dominance

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mohrt

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I'm right-handed, strong left-eye dominant. I'm noticing a lot of times when I get lined up on a shot, it doesn't look right. Closing my right eye, I see my left-eye is not completely over the shot line, but a bit to the outside. I then have to adjust after I'm down on the shot. Then it looks right, but my body alignment is off.

So then comes the question, what do I change in my PSR so my left eye falls into alignment more naturally? I've been trying to just "move more right" when coming into the shot, but that doesn't seem to fix anything, I fall right back into the problem. Maybe I need to turn my body into the shot more during my standing alignment? Or do I "tilt" my head to make the alignment? (I kind of like keeping my head level to the horizon though...)
 
I'm also left-eye dominant and right-handed. Cutting to the left is good, but I find I undercut sometimes to the right, especially back cuts with outside english. I turn my front foot slightly inward, which swings my body outward and my head more over the cue.

This also helps for women on draw shots when the boobs get in the way. :p
 
there are several discussions on this in the ask the instructor section of the forum
 
mohrt said:
I have found my vision center, the problem is landing on it consistently.
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It seems to me that if you start with your vision center (in your case, your left eye) aligned with the desired shot line while standing and keep your head along this line as you drop into your stance, better alignment might result. Here's a good demo of how to do this:

To verify your alignment once down in your stance, it can help to momentarily touch your chin to your cue (if your head is low in the stance) or glance down at your cue, but this shouldn't be necessary after you practice enough with your new vision center.

Regards,
Dave
 
mohrt said:
I'm right-handed, strong left-eye dominant. I'm noticing a lot of times when I get lined up on a shot, it doesn't look right. Closing my right eye, I see my left-eye is not completely over the shot line, but a bit to the outside. I then have to adjust after I'm down on the shot. Then it looks right, but my body alignment is off.

So then comes the question, what do I change in my PSR so my left eye falls into alignment more naturally? I've been trying to just "move more right" when coming into the shot, but that doesn't seem to fix anything, I fall right back into the problem. Maybe I need to turn my body into the shot more during my standing alignment? Or do I "tilt" my head to make the alignment? (I kind of like keeping my head level to the horizon though...)
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You have the same situation as TOP PLAYER, Gene Albrecht. He teaches and plays at a very high level and gives FREE phone lessons. You should consider giving him a call. He has intimate understanding or your problem, I guarantee...................

I do know that you shouldn't be squirming around once you get down on the shot. I hesitate to give you any advice because I don't share the same situation as you.
 
JoeyA said:
You have the same situation as TOP PLAYER, Gene Albrecht. He teaches and plays at a very high level and gives FREE phone lessons. You should consider giving him a call. He has intimate understanding or your problem, I guarantee...................

I do know that you shouldn't be squirming around once you get down on the shot. I hesitate to give you any advice because I don't share the same situation as you.
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Agreed... call Gene. But you might want to order and watch Gene's DVD first. Then you will understand more in advance and be able to ask better questions when you speak to him over the phone.
 
I'm the same as you, I used to shoot with the cue more toward my left eye (not completely under it, like Neils Feijen or Earl are with their right eye) but since Lasik I find that I'm more centered. That's because while my left eye is very dominant, my right eye is actually clearer due to a more complete reduction of my astigmatism in that eye.

I do try to align my body and head though so that I have a good perspective on the ball, and other than that I don't think about it much. I've been meaning to check out Gene's material as well, one of these days...

Scott
 
mohrt said:
I have found my vision center, the problem is landing on it consistently.
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From what you've said I can't tell if you've thought about the possibility that your vision center may be somewhere other than right on your dominant eye. It's possible (even more common, I think) to have a vision center that's somewhere between the eyes, maybe shifted toward the dominant eye (as you say you start out) - mine is this way. Have you tried Dr. Dave's test to confirm where it is?

pj
chgo
 
JMW said:
Agreed... call Gene. But you might want to order and watch Gene's DVD first. Then you will understand more in advance and be able to ask better questions when you speak to him over the phone.
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I have Gene's DVD, and I have had a lesson on the phone with him in the past. I may cross paths with him again.
 
Patrick Johnson said:
From what you've said I can't tell if you've thought about the possibility that your vision center may be somewhere other than right on your dominant eye. It's possible (even more common, I think) to have a vision center that's somewhere between the eyes, maybe shifted toward the dominant eye (as you say you start out) - mine is this way. Have you tried Dr. Dave's test to confirm where it is?

pj
chgo
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What I do know is when my left eye is directly over the shot, I can see the shot very clearly. When I can't see it, I close my right eye and see that my left eye is not where it needs to be. I'll take a look at Dave's test.
 
If your stroke is straight and your bridge is in the right place the shot should go.

I put my stick on the table on the shot line and then walk into my stance without moving the stick until the end when I lift the stick up into my bridge and grip.
 
mohrt said:
I'm right-handed, strong left-eye dominant. I'm noticing a lot of times when I get lined up on a shot, it doesn't look right. Closing my right eye, I see my left-eye is not completely over the shot line, but a bit to the outside. I then have to adjust after I'm down on the shot. Then it looks right, but my body alignment is off.

So then comes the question, what do I change in my PSR so my left eye falls into alignment more naturally? I've been trying to just "move more right" when coming into the shot, but that doesn't seem to fix anything, I fall right back into the problem. Maybe I need to turn my body into the shot more during my standing alignment? Or do I "tilt" my head to make the alignment? (I kind of like keeping my head level to the horizon though...)
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Some of the players who are opposite eye dominant do tilt their head, fwiw. I think you just have to keep trying different things until you find what works for you.

Gene continues to learn more and more about Perfect Aim and he may have found some additional information that will help you.
 
why worry

there are studies which claim that eye dominance has no bearing when pertaining to sports and alignment or aim. apparently your brain and body will automatically make compensations for what you want to do regardless of what your head position is. don't know if this pertains to everyone though, interesting food for thought.

sounds like you could benefit from CTE in your PSR.
 
simple question..... when you read a book do you have to keep your place with your finger??? It's likely if you answered yes you can't cross your eyes so parallax plays hell if you are not dead under your dominant eye.....

As far as staying on line going down Geno has a trick to that as well... Call him... I'm sure you have wasted more than 30 minutes reading some of our flame wars on here... That's all you have to lose... Just a few minutes of time
 
For now, before you get lessons on eye dominance, put the cue under the center of your chin and shoot straight in shots. Move it to the left or right until you don't miss.:smile:
 
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thefonz said:
there are studies which claim that eye dominance has no bearing when pertaining to sports and alignment or aim. apparently your brain and body will automatically make compensations for what you want to do regardless of what your head position is. don't know if this pertains to everyone though, interesting food for thought.

sounds like you could benefit from CTE in your PSR.
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Doesn't pertain to me. Like the OP I'm a righty and strongly left-eye dominant. I've experimented with the cue centered between my eyes and also under my right eye. The shots were as much as a diamond off. If you hit enough balls I think you're trained subconsciously to get your eyes in the right position for the visualization that works for you. Because missing sucks. Pavlog's dog - when you're rewarded for having your eyes in a certain place I think you'll tend to keep them there the next time.
 
Call me again..........

mohrt said:
I have Gene's DVD, and I have had a lesson on the phone with him in the past. I may cross paths with him again.
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Hi there,
Feel free to call me again. I'll give you a tuneup and get you where you need to be.

Sunday afternoon would be good. I'm in a tourny Sat but it should be over by Sunday I hope.

Looking forward to your call.

Thanks again Geno.......
 
I found that Joe Tucker's 3rd eye shot trainer helped me with this issue, surprised it has not been mentioned yet.
 
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