Next Up 90/90 Ron Vitello's DVD

8pack said:
could you ask ron to explain the way he makes the shots in this diagram.
I also no how the 90/90 system works i would just like to hear him explain how he would make all the shots.
I think ron's a great guy and good luck in making the video.
Will be buying it.;)
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from left to right.1,2,3,4, all 90/90, next 2 are 90 to center.

What makes it 90 to ctr is that the more the ball moves to the right with that half ball back cut, the more you need to cut the ball..
 
Just wanted to say, Mark does a great job. Nice to see Ron doing this, good luck in your endeavors.

Lee
 
Looking forward to both book and DVD!!!

I'm glad you guys are doing this and I look forward to the finished product. I don't have anything to add that I'd like to see. If everything that others have requested is covered in depth with great camera angles I'm sure it'll be a success.
 
RonV said:
from left to right.1,2,3,4, all 90/90, next 2 are 90 to center.

What makes it 90 to ctr is that the more the ball moves to the right with that half ball back cut, the more you need to cut the ball..
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Ron you say 1,2,3,4 are 90/90 .On any of the shots do have to adjust because you might be over cutting or under cutting after doing 90/90?

Not trying to stir the pot here but i have been doing this for about maybe 5,to 6 years now.You are the one who turned me on to pivoting and i haven't looked back.Thank you!
I feel there are gaps left out in the way pivoting is taught .I do something total different now and it works well.
Do you think what you teach puts you right on line ?
Or does it do 2 things ,online or right next to it .And with practice one will be able to make the adjustments.
Also will the system remain the same from big tables to smaller ones?
Thanks Again Ron and good luck with your video.
 
pool101 said:
We are doing 2 DVDs (approx. 4 Hours) I believe 2 hours or more will be on banks and kicks.
Mark
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Mark,
I have no doubt you are going to turn out another fine product! With the different camera angles you are bound to get the pivot well documented. Being consistent with the pivot has been the hardest part for me to nail down. Look forward to seeing this! :thumbup:
 
Palmetto cue said:
Mark,
I have no doubt you are going to turn out another fine product! With the different camera angles you are bound to get the pivot well documented. Being consistent with the pivot has been the hardest part for me to nail down. Look forward to seeing this! :thumbup:
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A direct overhead view would be very helpful. That way, people will clearly see how the effective pivot point changes with cut angle. You might also use graphics to show the pivot point (and how it changes with cut angle) on the overhead view. It would be helpful to show this for the classic parallel-shifting shots where the CB-OB relationship remains fixed while the cut angle to the pocket changes with the shifts. FYI, illustrations of "effective pivot point" and parallel-shifting shots can be found on the CTE evaluation and analysis resource page.

Good luck with the project,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
A direct overhead view would be very helpful. That way, people will clearly see how the effective pivot point changes with cut angle. You might also use graphics to show the pivot point (and how it changes with cut angle) on the overhead view. It would be helpful to show this for the classic parallel-shifting shots where the CB-OB relationship remains fixed while the cut angle to the pocket changes with the shifts. FYI, illustrations of "effective pivot point" and parallel-shifting shots can be found on the CTE evaluation and analysis resource page.

Good luck with the project,
Dave
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Just curious if you're going to extrapolate Ron's content and post it on your site, while they're trying to sell DVDs.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Just curious if you're going to extrapolate Ron's content and post it on your site, while they're trying to sell DVDs.
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I don't think Plagiarism is punishable by law. I'm fairly sure taking copyrighted material is, if it is used for profit.

Wait a minute, isn't Dr. Dave's website "commercial" (linked to his DVD sales)?


Eric
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Just curious if you're going to extrapolate Ron's content and post it on your site, while they're trying to sell DVDs.
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I already have some basic info concerning 90/90, mostly posted by cleary, quoted here:

I don't have any plans to "extrapolate" anything related to 90/90. I'll certainly add a link to Ron's DVD when it is available. Also, if there is any good discussion with new insight on AZB, I might add some useful quotes to the page. That's all.

Regards,
Dave
 
i wonder if he will start bumping his vepps thread again if people start posting threads about 90/90 like he did when cte/pro1 came out and/or start linking in the threads to his site where he sells vepps lol Very amusing how people on here are easily manipulated by basic tactics lol Anyway im looking forward checking out Ron V new material on dr daves site :D
 
Eric. said:
Wait a minute, isn't Dr. Dave's website "commercial" (linked to his DVD sales)?
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My commercial website (dr-dave-billiards.com) is most certainly "commercial." My educational-resource page (billiards.colostate.edu) is free online "educational" content; although, it does contain many links to commercial resources. For example, it contains links (where relevant) to my instructional products, Stan's DVD, well-known and respected pool schools and instructors, online billiards retailers, billiards industry magazine and organizations, etc. I certainly see nothing wrong with that. I don't understand your concern.

Regards,
Dave
 
dr_dave said:
What is vepps? Did you mean VEPS or VEPP? :p

Regards,
Dave (always amused by the "CTE mob")
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im just a "pool player" who is happy running one rack every once in a while. Im sure with the info you will put out a guy like "me" wont even need to buy the dvd and i will figure it out :thumbup:

Regards
Champ (always amused by the "ego" :D)
 
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dr_dave said:
A direct overhead view would be very helpful. That way, people will clearly see how the effective pivot point changes with cut angle. You might also use graphics to show the pivot point (and how it changes with cut angle) on the overhead view. It would be helpful to show this for the classic parallel-shifting shots where the CB-OB relationship remains fixed while the cut angle to the pocket changes with the shifts. FYI, illustrations of "effective pivot point" and parallel-shifting shots can be found on the CTE evaluation and analysis resource page.

Good luck with the project,
Dave
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I plan on using the overhead alot in this video, I truly do want to capture everything that is going on.
Mark
 
This is terrific

I had a phone lesson with Ron V, and was grateful for his enthusiasm, the generosity of his time, his patience and the helpful instruction. Thanks Ron V.

At that time he spoke of his extensive workbook, but it was in between printings at the time.

Thanks to Mark for the follow thru on this great project.

Me too, me too!! if more 'testers' are needed to identify any 'I don't quite get it' part of the DVDs while in editing. Actually, I don't really need to 'get it'-it's enough for me that it works-so if you need feedback on whether the viewer 'sees' what Ron is portraying-I would like to be another results oriented tester.

Good luck with the project guys.

ps: Hopefully-there is room for some 'Gold Finger' stuff too.:grin:

take care
 
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