So who was poolkillers/poolkillers81?

So who was poolkillers/poolkillers81?

  • A very young person that knows how to write well and use a computer

    Votes: 6 10.2%

  • A “pod” person, alien, supernatural being or the like

    Votes: 5 8.5%

  • The Iraqi minister of information or someone like that

    Votes: 4 6.8%

  • was part of an experiment doing something for a week then write an instructional manual for it.

    Votes: 4 6.8%

  • An elaborate prankster

    Votes: 7 11.9%

  • A psychopath of some kind; some serious mental disorder

    Votes: 12 20.3%

  • Someone trying to “stir up the pot” and make people angry for fun

    Votes: 18 30.5%

  • Someone who is (for lack of a better term) “just plain stupid”

    Votes: 15 25.4%

  • Just an inexperienced player that went to bars, thinks they understand pool and tried to help.

    Votes: 18 30.5%

  • Someone that doesn’t understand the difference between “better” and “different”

    Votes: 12 20.3%

  • A serious substance abuser that never “comes down”

    Votes: 6 10.2%

  • Other

    Votes: 10 16.9%
  • Total voters
    59
Tony_in_MD said:
Did you even read his manifesto?

I know you like the other side of the coin but I think in this instance if you had read it, even you would think that bugger was nuts.
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I read until I saw the phrase 'exit hole'. :grin:

I think we're in danger of playing the man rather than the ball here. There are plenty of publications of dubious content in pool (cough, cough, aiming systems), so why pick on this one? A published, living document for pool - a strategy, if you like - is not such a bad idea. The fact it's presented poorly in its current format is neither here nor there.

Lee Brett is asking us for input into what should go in his new book. OB cues are lauded for listening to feedback and changing their product accordingly. So why shouldn't this guy seek our help?

The trouble here is, we're thinking as established players. We aren't thinking about what potential players want or need. Whether this is total rubbish or not, the idea is quite interesting. The amateurish nature of pool, whilst charming, is also its downfall.

Modernise and professionalise.
 
FreeShot said:
http://issuu.com/poolkillers81/docs/a_beginner_s_guide_to_8_ball_pool

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What's with all the crazy terminology?
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It is crazy to us. It may be perfectly reasonable to the eyes of people outside of the pool/AZB bubble. He is not selling to us.

All languages evolve. Most new concepts are laughed at or mocked. George Bernard Shaw observed that the US and the UK are "two nations divided by a common language" - I don't know where the author is from, or who his musings are aimed at.
 
sfleinen said:
PGHteacher:

You haven't been here long enough to remember folks like PocketPoint (or the PocketPoint-a-likes that sprung up like mushrooms faster than Mr. Wilson could stomp them). There have been many like that "poolkillers" screenname persona (you describe above) in years past.

-Sean
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What? That have written manifestos?
 
You don't get it, he (or she) did not want help. The guide was presented as what he called standardized bar rules of pool, that he and friends researched and documented. He was totally not interested in anyone's opinion of the document, always defending it as the defacto standard of rules that millions of barroom players use.

Sometime ago I got very interested in skeet shooting, I went to the local skeet range, and observed and questioned. What I learned from these folks is that they were interested in getting new members into "their" sport, and they did everything possible to do this in a correct safe manner.

We (all of us) have the SAME responsibility, and at the base minimum to teach the proper terminology to new players. This guide to pool does not meet that requirement. As far as his rules, well the only thing they would do when mixed with Alcohol is start bar-fights.



TheThaiger said:
I read until I saw the phrase 'exit hole'. :grin:

I think we're in danger of playing the man rather than the ball here. There are plenty of publications of dubious content in pool (cough, cough, aiming systems), so why pick on this one? A published, living document for pool - a strategy, if you like - is not such a bad idea. The fact it's presented poorly in its current format is neither here nor there.

Lee Brett is asking us for input into what should go in his new book. OB cues are lauded for listening to feedback and changing their product accordingly. So why shouldn't this guy seek our help?

The trouble here is, we're thinking as established players. We aren't thinking about what potential players want or need. Whether this is total rubbish or not, the idea is quite interesting. The amateurish nature of pool, whilst charming, is also its downfall.

Modernise and professionalise.
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TheThaiger said:
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I think we're in danger of playing the man rather than the ball here. ...
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The man was ignorant and obnoxious and the ball he presented to us was, as you noted, made of dung. Why would we want to play either one? Pool has a much longer tradition than most players realize. Some of us would prefer not to throw all of that away.

What positive contribution did he make?
 
TheThaiger said:
Either way, nobody else is doing bugger all to harmonise the game. One standardised set of rules is ESSENTIAL for the game, and if WE don't take steps to enforce them, who will?
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Well it would be supporting both the cuemaking and table repair business to run at the table with your cue held out and scoop balls off the slate...

I also wonder which shaft splits better if you hit the table apron on a Ram Shot; the 314-2 or OB-1? Would PL1 produce a higher tone than PL3? Yes, this is indeed truly an important question. Can I borrow your cue for a minute Tim?
 
Tony_in_MD said:
You don't get it, he (or she) did not want help. The guide was presented as what he called standardized bar rules of pool, that he and friends researched and documented. He was totally not interested in anyone's opinion of the document, always defending it as the defacto standard of rules that millions of barroom players use.
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He hasn't "got it" since he came here and is apparently determined not to.
 
Bob Jewett said:
The man was ignorant and obnoxious and the ball he presented to us was, as you noted, made of dung. Why would we want to play either one? Pool has a much longer tradition than most players realize. Some of us would prefer not to throw all of that away.

What positive contribution did he make?
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Well, he wasn't given much of a chance!
 
Tony_in_MD said:
You don't get it, he (or she) did not want help. The guide was presented as what he called standardized bar rules of pool, that he and friends researched and documented. He was totally not interested in anyone's opinion of the document, always defending it as the defacto standard of rules that millions of barroom players use.

Sometime ago I got very interested in skeet shooting, I went to the local skeet range, and observed and questioned. What I learned from these folks is that they were interested in getting new members into "their" sport, and they did everything possible to do this in a correct safe manner.

We (all of us) have the SAME responsibility, and at the base minimum to teach the proper terminology to new players. This guide to pool does not meet that requirement. As far as his rules, well the only thing they would do when mixed with Alcohol is start bar-fights.
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Isn't the very idea of a standardised set of rules to prevent bar fights? I've played pool throughout the world, to literally hundreds of variants of rules, and to me, it's the single biggest issue in pool. Crack that and there's a chance. I HATE the fact there's so many different rules. It sucks big time. What's charming and quirky initially, quickly becomes tiresome and irritating. It puts people off and causes resentment.

The main problem is, we all want OUR rules. Don't get caught up in what THIS guy has produced - think of the principle behind it and be prepared to give a little.
 
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