G10 Tip Install........ FAIL !!!!!

Dirtbmw20

Dirtbmw20

Lee Casto
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I installed a G10 tip on my team captains break cue about a week ago and so far the darn tip has popped off TWICE !!!

First time I just used loctite gel super glue like I use on all my other tips, that lasted about 4-5 breaks and it popped off.

Second time, I used a complete new tip, and used 5 minute epoxy and let it cure overnight, he used it Thursday night in league play with no problems, then today it popped off on about the 3rd break.


What do I need to do to keep this tip on without popping off ??? Any ideas or suggestions ??
 
Did you put a tip pad on?
I would get a carbon fiber pad from Royce and install that.
Might be kinda hard, I tried to order some a year or so ago and didn't end up getting them...
But I would def use a pad(even fiber) between the tip and Ferrulle.
 
cuejo said:
Did you put a tip pad on?
I would get a carbon fiber pad from Royce and install that.
Might be kinda hard, I tried to order some a year or so ago and didn't end up getting them...
But I would def use a pad(even fiber) between the tip and Ferrulle.
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Use a pad on a G10 tip ??????

No, I didn't use one, but I have 50 or so and can easily put one on next try.

Should I use a different glue or different epoxy ??? I have since been told to try 20 minute epoxy. Any thoughts ??
 
I use loctite, or tough tip, or whatever ca is handy :)
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That is on a bk-2
I left a small but of the original phenolic too.
I hit this thing hard and it hast let me down.
I also have a couple mezz power breaks with g-10 tips on as well.
 
I'll have to try a fiber pad and see if that helps. If that doesn't work, then I'll put a ferrule/tip combo on it and dare it to come off then,lol.

Thanks again for the help Darcy !!!
 
No problem.
I use a one piece tip ferrule on my jump cues,
But I find that it hits a bit too hard for break cues.
But you should try for yourself :)
 
cuejo said:
No problem.
I use a one piece tip ferrule on my jump cues,
But I find that it hits a bit too hard for break cues.
But you should try for yourself :)
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I have a G10 one piece ferrule/tip combo on MY break/jump cue and personally I love it. My captain had used my break cue, that's what led to me putting a G10 tip on his cue (the Cuetec I repaired) and he likes it, IF I can keep it to stay on the damn cue,lol.
 
cuejo said:
No problem.
I use a one piece tip ferrule on my jump cues,
But I find that it hits a bit too hard for break cues.
But you should try for yourself :)
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How can it hit too hard? I always thought.... the harder - the better......

I always use a phenolic combo and I like the hard hit for breaking.... I would think the G10 would be great in a jump cue.... right or wrong????

Kim
 
whammo57 said:
How can it hit too hard? I always thought.... the harder - the better......

I always use a phenolic combo and I like the hard hit for breaking.... I would think the G10 would be great in a jump cue.... right or wrong????

Kim
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G10 works great on my jump cue :thumbup:
 
Reverse Tenon

A while ago there was a thread about this same topic. There was a suggestion to do a reverse tenon or make a small lip that would interlock the tip and ferrule. The cause that was stated for the tip popping off was side force or a slight miss cue. This lip or tenon style takes care of the side force. Personally I have had problems with the White Diamond tips popping off. It was told to me to use the same type of adhesive that is used on golf clubs. I got it to stay before having to go that far so I don't know how that would work but it is just a thought.
 
opiesbro said:
A while ago there was a thread about this same topic. There was a suggestion to do a reverse tenon or make a small lip that would interlock the tip and ferrule. The cause that was stated for the tip popping off was side force or a slight miss cue. This lip or tenon style takes care of the side force. Personally I have had problems with the White Diamond tips popping off. It was told to me to use the same type of adhesive that is used on golf clubs. I got it to stay before having to go that far so I don't know how that would work but it is just a thought.
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Can't remember where I heard about this first. Powers, or Varney, But it works. The tip has a reverse tennon. Looks like a mushroom kinda. I have a guy here locally that breaks a ton. He kept having pop offs. Put one on for him about two months ago with no more problems!
 
Palmetto cue said:
Can't remember where I heard about this first. Powers, or Varney, But it works. The tip has a reverse tennon. Looks like a mushroom kinda. I have a guy here locally that breaks a ton. He kept having pop offs. Put one on for him about two months ago with no more problems!
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Varney suggested it but you have fabricate the tip from stock.
I've seen one here with a hole in the center too.
Ala stemmed tip.
 
Bca

whammo57 said:
Does G10 make scuff marks on the cue ball??

Kim
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I believe that BCA has banned all composite tips like G10 and Phenolic for this reason. So if you have a player that uses one in that league they are in violation of the rules.
 
opiesbro said:
A while ago there was a thread about this same topic. There was a suggestion to do a reverse tenon or make a small lip that would interlock the tip and ferrule. The cause that was stated for the tip popping off was side force or a slight miss cue. This lip or tenon style takes care of the side force. Personally I have had problems with the White Diamond tips popping off. It was told to me to use the same type of adhesive that is used on golf clubs. I got it to stay before having to go that far so I don't know how that would work but it is just a thought.
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I put this on a guy's jump cue and it has stayed on so far. I haven't used white diamond tips lately because they do pop off. I used West 205/107 to glue it on.

Kim

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whammo57 said:
I put this on a guy's jump cue and it has stayed on so far. I haven't used white diamond tips lately because they do pop off. I used West 205/107 to glue it on.

Kim

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You know it sucks that you have to go to all that effort to keep a tip on a cue. You would think that NASA would have an adhesive they could give to us that would work!
 
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