EINSTEIN NINE, anyone play this game? Thoughts? Sounds like 1-pocket w/9 balls. Is that about right?
Einstein nine
- Thread starter PGHteacher
- Start date
I'd be game to give it a try, but I'm a little skeptical. I'm not sure they thought this through. "What if we mixed 9 ball with 1 pocket?" ...well, you mix the slowest game with the fastest one and you get... something else. For one thing, why are there two winning conditions (make the 9, or make 5 balls in your hole)?
It sounds like it would devolve into both players softly banking the lowest numbered ball towards their hole until one of them sinks it (or puts it so deep in the hole it can't be dug out). And do you hard break or soft break? The breaker has a big edge... with a full rack game you might make a ball in the corner, but with a standard 9 ball rack it's virtually guaranteed. Breaking gives you effectively one free ball in your hole, with little danger of selling out if you bobble it, since the one goes up past the side pocket.
It sounds like it would devolve into both players softly banking the lowest numbered ball towards their hole until one of them sinks it (or puts it so deep in the hole it can't be dug out). And do you hard break or soft break? The breaker has a big edge... with a full rack game you might make a ball in the corner, but with a standard 9 ball rack it's virtually guaranteed. Breaking gives you effectively one free ball in your hole, with little danger of selling out if you bobble it, since the one goes up past the side pocket.
Good points I hadn't thought it through that far yet. I am definitely going to try this I just wanted some heads up 1st beforehand.
I did try this quite a while back.
As CreeDo mentions, there is nothing in the rules that the rack should be broken with a soft or a hard break. I tried both.
I don't remember if it has to be played in rotation or if you shoot at whatever is in front of your designated pocket but once I determined that there would be many questions, I left it alone and haven't played since.
Something new is always worth at least one try.
As CreeDo mentions, there is nothing in the rules that the rack should be broken with a soft or a hard break. I tried both.
I don't remember if it has to be played in rotation or if you shoot at whatever is in front of your designated pocket but once I determined that there would be many questions, I left it alone and haven't played since.
Something new is always worth at least one try.
Humm; interesting is it helpful? You could play 3-pocket to (your side of the table) kind of like pro bonus ball all on 1 side. Just brainsorming.
http://www.einstein-nine.com/e9/einstein_nine_rules_of_play_20090822.pdf
apparently it is a rotation game
Sorry about that PGH. As I mentioned it was quite a while ago when I tried it out.
But I do remember now that you've reminded me that it was a rotation game. Thank you for that lol.
It seems as one other flaw I came across was in that in normal one pocket, if you scratch, you owe a ball to the spot. This is where it gets a little tricky. Since this game is rotation, the lowest number ball that was made at the time or before the scratch, would have to spot.
All of us know that if a ball has to spot but there is already another ball on the spot (let's say the 9 ball actually came to rest on the spot)the ball that currently needs spotting is spotted directly behind and touching the first ball on the spot.
Adding to that, following the scratch, the cb must be placed behind the head string.
So basically what I came across is that sometimes it could be handy to go ahead and scratch and owe the lowest ball, and spot it. The two issues are that (a) you are left with a long shot even when there may only be that one ball and (b) whereas before but there is already a ball on the spot, this means that the new ball is going to be tied up with little possibility of actually making it and continuing to shoot.
I think this is what turned me off to the game.
Thanks that is exactly what I am looking for.
It's actually a ball-in-hand game (not in the kitchen).
It's literally 9 ball, except with 4 of the pockets blocked off. I think they were looking for 9 ball with some some added difficulty to the run, and a little strategy. But it remains to be seen if you can fit the appealing parts of 1 pocket by just limiting the holes in 9 ball.
It's literally 9 ball, except with 4 of the pockets blocked off. I think they were looking for 9 ball with some some added difficulty to the run, and a little strategy. But it remains to be seen if you can fit the appealing parts of 1 pocket by just limiting the holes in 9 ball.
They must have added that at some point after I tried it. When I gave it a try, I actually printed out the rules and took them over to a buddy's house to play on his table so that I could refer back to the rules if I needed to.
It does still allow for a spotted ball to be tied up with another or other balls that are on or near the spot.
CreeDo: next time we have a chance to get together, let's give it a try. I'm willing to give it one more chance but I still think that there may be some questions that have answers in the current rules.
Last edited:
Einstein 9 was invented by our own Cuebuddy, with some help from another Azbr, fd_colorado. It's a great game!
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
Thanks for letting us know that Scott. I did not realize that a couple of the forum members came up with this.
I have no doubts that it is a great game. Perhaps I may have missed something when I read the rules and gave it a try. I just remember that there were a couple of scenarios when I did play it that the rules at the time did not cover and I wasn't going to just make things up.
Perhaps I need to pm one of them to get further clarification.
Yeah, it can't be any worse than alabama backmonkey or whatever that other game is we played
So you didn't like the Alabama 8 ball with last pocket option? LOL
I'm certainly willing to give Einstein Nine another go.
Wow
Guys you just made my day! A non member friend and myself designed this game at least 12 years ago. We played it against each other and on occasion would teach it to others. That's about as far as it went until I met fd_colorado on this board. fd_colorado and I started playing this game and then he started to show it to other players in his area.
fd_colorado then asked if he could write the rules down and we decided to build a web page at the same time. The game has been played a little in Kansas city and the Denver area and by a few members on the East coast.
But for the most part there is little interest in the game.
Einstein Nine is still the only game IMHO that is complete as far as offense, defense, banking, and strategy! It also seems to be a great spectator game as long as the rail birds know the basic rules. When two players are more or less equal in skill it will generally be decided on who is the better thinker.
It is good to see a thread that has been started by someone other then myself about this game:embarrassed2:.
If I can help out answering any questions let me know.
Here is a link to an earlier discussion about E9.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=160364&highlight=fd_colorado
Guys you just made my day! A non member friend and myself designed this game at least 12 years ago. We played it against each other and on occasion would teach it to others. That's about as far as it went until I met fd_colorado on this board. fd_colorado and I started playing this game and then he started to show it to other players in his area.
fd_colorado then asked if he could write the rules down and we decided to build a web page at the same time. The game has been played a little in Kansas city and the Denver area and by a few members on the East coast.
But for the most part there is little interest in the game.
Einstein Nine is still the only game IMHO that is complete as far as offense, defense, banking, and strategy! It also seems to be a great spectator game as long as the rail birds know the basic rules. When two players are more or less equal in skill it will generally be decided on who is the better thinker.
It is good to see a thread that has been started by someone other then myself about this game:embarrassed2:.
If I can help out answering any questions let me know.
Here is a link to an earlier discussion about E9.
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=160364&highlight=fd_colorado
Last edited:
HAHA
I haven't forgot you berko! I have had a rotten summer due to the failing health of my mother. I would still like to get together and shoot some in the near future.
Tried it yesterday with one of my former students, I love this game; going to shoot with brother now. He is going to play it like it or not.