Ronnie O'Sullivan - Age 15 - Just To Reinforce Your Feeling Of Inadequacy
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"nobody will ever be better than Maradona" I hear this all the time. Especially from Naples supporters
I agree "ever" is a long time, I just don't think somebody will ever run 1000 balls.
That was a treat to watch.
Some people fail to realize that HAMB doesn't apply to everyone. Some people pop out of their mother's hooha with that accomplishment already checked off. Unfairly, some people are legitimately "born" with "getting" this game completely.
I think Hopkins told me he ran his first 100 at age 12 (or something crazy like that). Nowhere NEAR HAMB.
Some people fail to realize that HAMB doesn't apply to everyone. Some people pop out of their mother's hooha with that accomplishment already checked off. Unfairly, some people are legitimately "born" with "getting" this game completely.
I think Hopkins told me he ran his first 100 at age 12 (or something crazy like that). Nowhere NEAR HAMB.
Basement: Well, there's something to be said for rhythm for sure. I've always kind of resisted speeding up my own game, but I'm starting to put some effort into it. I heard a quote from John Schmidt, that went something like...
'if you haven't tried speeding up your game yet, just try it once, I promise you it's worth considering, you may like the results' ...he went on to say you can't sit there and agonize over every ball if you plan on making a massive straight pool run.'
In snooker I guess the maximum you'll be sinking is 36 balls in a row, but on a tough 12 foot table I'm sure it feels like a million.
As far as will the faster kid become the better player, I dunno. There are so many other factors. Both Ralf Souquet and Luc Salvas became great players but I think Ralf ended up being the better one.
Chesscat: One thing I noticed that's a little similar to 1p... in snooker there's often a situation where you must kick at a far away fall... and your only goal is to lightly touch it and not sell out a shot. There's no requirement to hit a rail. So you see some perfect speed 3 rail kicks that lightly nudge the target ball. Except in snooker the ball has travelled like 30 feet and the target is like 40% smaller O_O
I think you'll also see some length-of-the-table testers being left intentionally, hoping to bait the opponent into taking a flyer and selling out.
'if you haven't tried speeding up your game yet, just try it once, I promise you it's worth considering, you may like the results' ...he went on to say you can't sit there and agonize over every ball if you plan on making a massive straight pool run.'
In snooker I guess the maximum you'll be sinking is 36 balls in a row, but on a tough 12 foot table I'm sure it feels like a million.
As far as will the faster kid become the better player, I dunno. There are so many other factors. Both Ralf Souquet and Luc Salvas became great players but I think Ralf ended up being the better one.
Chesscat: One thing I noticed that's a little similar to 1p... in snooker there's often a situation where you must kick at a far away fall... and your only goal is to lightly touch it and not sell out a shot. There's no requirement to hit a rail. So you see some perfect speed 3 rail kicks that lightly nudge the target ball. Except in snooker the ball has travelled like 30 feet and the target is like 40% smaller O_O
I think you'll also see some length-of-the-table testers being left intentionally, hoping to bait the opponent into taking a flyer and selling out.
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TheThaiger
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"nobody will ever be better than Maradona" I hear this all the time. Especially from Naples supporters
I agree "ever" is a long time, I just don't think somebody will ever run 1000 balls.
Messi has disproved that one already...
I doubt there will ever be anyone as good AND as bonkers as Diego Armando Maradona, though.
Who do you support?
There was one match this year where in one frame it took 15 minutes to pot the first ball.
I was watching a match a few years ago, it was rolling along at a good speed, then a safety battle broke out with seven balls remaining. The frame took 77 minutes.
TheThaiger
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That's the exception rather than the rule, though. In fact, snooker is often quicker than pool - or at least more fluent and less tiresome.
I think is not correct to compare players from different generations. Football has changed too much.
Juventus, you?
TheThaiger
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Ronnie is if not the greatest cue talent of all time he is in the top 3. He plays rotation games very well btw on any given day he could win a 9 ball or 10 ball tournament, but any top player that plays rotation games could not win a snooker tourney. As pure cueist all around my top five today are the following if I missed someone I apologise
1. The rocket Ronnie O
2. Torjohn Bloomdahl
3. Efren Reyes
4. Alex Paguylion'
5. John Schmidt
Lots of other great players I may have missed but a quick snippet of Ronnie's prowess what we call the one pocket challenge at derby city (all balls in one pocket opening break shot) Ronnie practicing for the ipt back in the day ran 90+ doing it trying to get a feel for the table type they were using on a table that was set up exactly like the ipt tables. At that time he was serious about coming over and competing but was leery of the ipt. We missed out on maybe the greatest talent ever competing here. He could have been the spark American pool needed at the time he would have had fans of his attitude over here
1. The rocket Ronnie O
2. Torjohn Bloomdahl
3. Efren Reyes
4. Alex Paguylion'
5. John Schmidt
Lots of other great players I may have missed but a quick snippet of Ronnie's prowess what we call the one pocket challenge at derby city (all balls in one pocket opening break shot) Ronnie practicing for the ipt back in the day ran 90+ doing it trying to get a feel for the table type they were using on a table that was set up exactly like the ipt tables. At that time he was serious about coming over and competing but was leery of the ipt. We missed out on maybe the greatest talent ever competing here. He could have been the spark American pool needed at the time he would have had fans of his attitude over here
Two questions regarding snookers/safeties...
I've seen a player gets snookered behind a color, and miss the hit on a red. Then the ref will put the cueball back where it was behind the colored ball.
1. Is there a limit to how many times this can happen?
2. What happens if the player who is snookered just smacks into the ball he's snookered by? Does the ref reset the balls?
I've seen a player gets snookered behind a color, and miss the hit on a red. Then the ref will put the cueball back where it was behind the colored ball.
1. Is there a limit to how many times this can happen?
2. What happens if the player who is snookered just smacks into the ball he's snookered by? Does the ref reset the balls?
1. It depends on whether the referee deems it a 'miss' or not, but as long as a miss is called, then as far a I'm aware there's no limit to how many times it can be put back.
It's probably worth googling the miss rule for more info, as people have explained it better in the past than I'll be able to. Here's Jan Verhaas trying to talk through it: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/snooker/rules/6158266.stm
Also, a miss can't be called when snookers are required to win a frame, I think.
2. Yes.
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TheThaiger
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There is no limit, but if the player can hit a ball and misses three times, it's loss of frame. This is rare, though.
His transfer was welcomed with a lot of irony.
I also heard he asked for the 10 as number after Del Piero left this year. Omg
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TheThaiger
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I watched this 3 times. Paying attention to the background in each attempt. There are 3 different attempts . lol
They show 3 different tries where all he was trying to do,,was nick the red.
It is amazing that he hit this exactly the same each time!!! If you could overlap the 3 attempts in one video,,,the cue has the same path,,off the side tit and to the black ball in the center of table.
He should get a award for this!!!! I think its near impossible,,or would have thought that had I not seen it.
Just amazing!!!!
I don't know... There were several shots where the object ball touched the sides of the pocket before going in. That O'Sullivan kid will have to work on his accuracy if he expects to get anywhere in the game.