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duckie

GregH
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As a QA tester engineer, I would have to develop test cases to test systems.

So, here are few shots you can use as test cases to see if whatever aiming/alignment system works as advertised. I'm right handed so these are from that POV. On a 9 ft table. No mechanical bridge can be used.

Good luck.
 
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The Stretch System

duckie said:
As a QA tester engineer, I would have to develop test cases to test systems.

So, here are few shots you can use as test cases to see if whatever aiming/alignment system works as advertised. I'm right handed so these are from that POV. On a 9 ft table. No mechanical bridge can be used.

Good luck.
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With these angles body alignment shouldn't be an issue ;)
 
90/90- no problem; CTE- no problem; See system- no problem; fractional- no problem; equal/opposite- no problem; ghost ball- big problem. Can't seem to see the ghost ball at all.
 
Even knowing what duckie's trying to get at, I'm not sure what he's trying to prove with this one, if that makes sense.

Anyway, I'll play along:

  • Back-of-ball aiming: no problem.
  • Fractional aiming: no problem.
  • Ghostball: no problem.
Ohhh, wait a minute -- he must be getting at the "reach" issue with these shots!

Silly me, I normally play these hard-to-reach shots opposite-handed (left-handed), "just because I can."

Perhaps I cheated?
-Sean
 
Not really sure what he's driving at either. Using 90/90, Pro1, CTE, Ghost ball, etc. I can make all balls by just stretching across the table, and I'm just average height. The key with the pivot systems is to pivot on the way down into your stretch, not really a big deal assuming you are fluent with the system. A system beginner might have a hard time performing the stretch and pivot, but not once you are used to it.

Scott
 
Contact point aiming.....Check

Ribs still hurting from the fall this morning which this "test" didn't help matters......Check

Lights over table.........went out. :angry:

Have to run and get another fluorescent bulb for replacement.
 
I'm a feel player, no systems. I'm not in front of a table, but I know I've made each of these shots before, and also missed them;) Obviously stretching and contorting your body will lose accuracy (at lease I think it will with me...)

I too have no idea what the OP is getting at?
 
He likes to dwell on the extremes in pool, that is all.

Your right, and that is why when you have situations like his most good players pull out a bridge, or an extension, or even shoot the shot opposite handed.

Of course Busty would play a few of these behind the back, and Alex would climb up on the table.


iusedtoberich said:
I'm a feel player, no systems. I'm not in front of a table, but I know I've made each of these shots before, and also missed them;) Obviously stretching and contorting your body will lose accuracy (at lease I think it will with me...)

I too have no idea what the OP is getting at?
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i guess what he is really saying is you cant use a system in a unbalanced stretched out position. Now this has been going on for so long in aiming threads with the usual crew. If you don't know how to actually apply something, how can you possibly know its limitations? They are not speaking from experience, i will never understand this thinking on here :confused:
 
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iusedtoberich said:
I'm a feel player, no systems. I'm not in front of a table, but I know I've made each of these shots before, and also missed them;) Obviously stretching and contorting your body will lose accuracy (at lease I think it will with me...)

I too have no idea what the OP is getting at?
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As always, he is stating that the only aiming system that works in all situations is ghost ball. ALL other aiming systems fail at what he thinks are tough shots, therefore, they are worthless at all times.

He just doesn't know what he doesn't know, and refuses to learn anything other than ghost ball, while at the same time expounding that we should always be open to new things. :rolleyes:?????
 
You know, this is a good thread for me... it reinforces using a bridge. I'm quite tall, and can reach many shots. For that reason I'm often lazy with getting the bridge. I've missed shots like this many times (just stretching shots in general). Within the past year, I've convinced myself its not a good shot to take, and to use the bridge instead.

This thread reminded me of that conscious discovery about stretching shots I had months ago.

Thanks duckie:)
 
Neil said:
As always, he is stating that the only aiming system that works in all situations is ghost ball. ALL other aiming systems fail at what he thinks are tough shots, therefore, they are worthless at all times.

He just doesn't know what he doesn't know, and refuses to learn anything other than ghost ball, while at the same time expounding that we should always be open to new things. :rolleyes:?????
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I'm not a system player... but if a ghost ball user can get their head in the right position to see the ghost ball, why wouldn't a system player be able to get their head in the right position to use a system? (whichever system they use)?

Or maybe that's what duckie is getting at? These shots he laid out don't allow the head to be in the normal position?

I think I should have stayed away from this thread... lol
 
trust me he started this thread to try and prove you cant use an aiming system stretched out in a awkward position and that ghost ball is the greatest thing since sliced bread. This is why he says to not use a mechanical bridge shooting these shots and only on a 9 foot table, we have all seen these scenarios and drills in many different ways from guys like dr dave to duckie going back years.
 
I'll bite...

I think whatever method of aiming you use: feel, GB, CTE, etc, etc, your head will not be in the usual position. So the shot picture will look off, and you will have to do your best and do some estimations.

I don't see any inherent advantage one aiming method has over another, when the head is not in the ideal place. They are all compromised, and probably by the same amount.
 
iusedtoberich said:
I'll bite...

I think whatever method of aiming you use: feel, GB, CTE, etc, etc, your head will not be in the usual position. So the shot picture will look off, and you will have to do your best and do some estimations.

I don't see any inherent advantage one aiming method has over another, when the head is not in the ideal place. They are all compromised, and probably by the same amount.
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Here's the thing, Duckie threw in the "no bridge" for the sole reason to once again discredit aiming systems in an aiming forum. Thinking the no bridge would be his caveat. However, and he has stated what you just did before, which is to just shoot the shot on guesswork. Trust me, no player is ever going to shoot at a shot that he can't see properly. That's why they use bridges, shoot opposite handed, shoot behind the back, or ever find a different shot to shoot that they can see, such as a safety.

And, if Duckie cares to come back into his own thread and discuss any of it, I will be amazed. He has the habit of stating what he thinks is right, knocking anything else, and then abandoning the thread, never to discuss anything.
 
Eye placements aren't affected by any ball layout. Bridge or no bridge I can make each example with CTE or 90/90

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