Good pick up on a probable mis-communication based on the receiver's mis-reception & not the sender's mis-sending. Or...he can break a single 5" board & he meant multiple times.
John Schmidt's and Corey Deuel's comments on aiming systems
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Good pick up on a probable mis-communication based on the receiver's mis-reception & not the sender's mis-sending. Or...he can break a single 5" board & he meant multiple times.
ok we know what you believe, so why wouldn't you just move on to other threads?
What did Pj do? he told us there is spin involved in the technique or whatever he is sayingyou think because he told us that we were all shit out of luck on learning this? I did not pay attention to any of his post and i figured it out. He relentlessly debated a point that in reality, we did not have to know. He frustrated Cj to the point that he is thinking it is not worth posting on here! You can see up until yesterday Pj did not even understand the purpose of the system and how to apply it and most likely still doesn't. We seen this all in the cte threads also, his relentless posting about something of little value frustrates an entire thread into surrender! Pj has learned a lot off dr daves site but he has to know when to apply it in his posts on here and when not too and when to move on past a point.
Discetion is the better part of valor !
I haven't made any trouble here. I've just politely expressed my views about what's being discussed.
Do you think threads should be staked out for only those with one viewpoint? That's what starts trouble.
Discussion is good. That's why we have discussion forums.
pj
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I don't think that your bedside manners will get you banned.:smile:
I hear you. Effectively they may be the same as to 'margin of error' as you have defined it. But it is not 'the same' as one is aiming to a different outcome target
with a different perception of the results, which for him, gives him an increase in confidence. We're dealing with the mind as well as the physics. He is simply trying to help us play better & you are simply trying to make us understand. The two(2) are not mutually exclusive.
Just my $0.02
Rick
I'm just guessing that most people would have better success with a non-LD shaft. I'll be trying that out tonight.
One day I will visit with CJ and ask him about his 3 part pocket aiming technique and I'm sure he will explain it to me in about 3 minutes.
For the moment though, I am fixated on an understanding that for the shot he was originally talking about, he is aiming the object ball at the side of the pocket and utilizes a miniscule amount of inside (but with little spin effect) which if he accidentally hits center ball, he will pocket the object ball close to that side of the pocket. If he hits with the miniscule amount of inside on the cue ball, the object ball will split the pocket. If he accidentally hits with a bit more of a touch of inside, the object ball will still hit the outer facing of the pocket. I guess this particular shot is easier to picture in my mind's eye than it is to describe in words, but I think CJ is NOT aiming the object ball at the center of the pocket. It all depends upon the location of the cue ball and object ball.
Regardless, D.B. Cooper would be proud of the way this thread has been hijacked.
The thread has certainly forged ahead better than most of the other aiming threads.
Kudos to all who participated. Living Legend
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your post are as hard to understand as the drawings you create :smile:
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Living Legend
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nope I generally follow and learn, you on the other hand follow some what and try and correct, but not learn and then make it hard for everyone else to learn.
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That's how I read it, what else could it mean?
Communication on the Internet is at least partially based on proof reading your posts before sending out your thoughts for all the world to see. I might have said, "I can break a 5" thick stack of 1" boards..."
BTW I also had a hard time following this pocketing trick at first. Others chimed in and expressed it more eloquently, at which point what he is doing became obvious.
FWIW I also have a long martial arts background, perhaps longer than CJ's, and with great teachers as well. Breaking a stack of 1" pine boards is child's play. Breaking a single 5" board is Herculean.
Besides, how are Mr. Wiley's statements regarding his ability to break any amount of boards germane to the topic at hand? Does he hit them off center and rely on squirt to break them apart?
Yes, even if you're doing two things exactly alike, thinking of them differently can make a difference in your performance. I think that's one of the potential benefits of this technique - and others that we've had similar discussions about.
But that doesn't make comparison of the two things, and even the suggestion that they're the same, a taboo topic.
That's the way I see it too.
pj
chgo
Likewise, your postings are also hard to understand, as shown below:
Originally Posted by champ2107
There are only 5 lines of aim and not 6 and a grand total of 9, if you dont count the straight in twice and not 11.
Living Legend
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if cj wasn't side tracked we could have have gotten more info out of him about the over all technique and then you could have went into detail about the entire thing with him or without him.
Living Legend
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Likewise, your postings are also hard to understand, as shown below:
Originally Posted by champ2107
There are only 5 lines of aim and not 6 and a grand total of 9, if you dont count the straight in twice and not 11.
allen your not taken seriously in here so go troll somewhere else. you have added nothing to this thread other than to originally start it and that was meant to trash systems.
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To play consistently you must have a reliable, straight stroke
Imagine what these guys would say if I told them they had to learn to "throw the ball slightly with their mind?" You hit the nail on the head, Joe, it's just a hair for someone that has the accuracy that I have.....the trouble is not everyone is that accurate, so they need to work on their basics FIRST. This is a very difficult (impossible
) technique if your stroke isn't accurate and please understand I can't see how any of the readers are actually hitting the cue ball....that's why I used the example a while back about hitting the ball straight down table and making it come straight back off the rail...if you can't do that 30% of the time and it your tip then you will need to practice it until you can....and doing advanced techniques requiring a slight off center hit with no visible english would be better placed on the shelf for awhile. After all, if you are unable to hit the cue ball straight every time most would know they can't go on to anything advanced..spin or no spin.
Imagine what these guys would say if I told them they had to learn to "throw the ball slightly with their mind?" You hit the nail on the head, Joe, it's just a hair for someone that has the accuracy that I have.....the trouble is not everyone is that accurate, so they need to work on their basics FIRST. This is a very difficult (impossible
) technique if your stroke isn't accurate and please understand I can't see how any of the readers are actually hitting the cue ball....that's why I used the example a while back about hitting the ball straight down table and making it come straight back off the rail...if you can't do that 30% of the time and it your tip then you will need to practice it until you can....and doing advanced techniques requiring a slight off center hit with no visible english would be better placed on the shelf for awhile. After all, if you are unable to hit the cue ball straight every time most would know they can't go on to anything advanced..spin or no spin.
In my very limited martial arts training several years ago, I managed to break two 1" pine boards at a time. So yes, breaking five by anyone trained isn't a major huge big deal. Easy, well....no. There is a technique, moreso than power. There other students bigger and stronger than I who struggled breaking one.
Now, as Sloppy Pockets points out, breaking one 5" board....that would sure impress me!
I have not, but I personally don't think equipment choice is as important as many people think, as long as the tip is good and you give yourself time to adjust for the amount of squirt the shaft produces. The player's technique, level of ability, and understanding is much more important than the cue. I personally prefer a low-squirt cue for the advantages it offers; although, many people will prefer (and maybe do better with) a non-LD shaft (because of the disadvantages associated with LD shafts).
Regards,
Dave
Well stated.
I also feel that I have been polite and supportive, while still expressing my honest opinions in a professional and courteous way.
Regards,
Dave
Living Legend
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there were a few of us that pushed through all the side tracking and put the system on here for all to see and understand. While some were stuck on one point that was not necessary for learning or applying the system. Seen it all before in the cte threads.
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