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this is what your pretty much asking Stan to explain and Stans answer would pretty much match yours.
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this is what your pretty much asking Stan to explain and Stans answer would pretty much match yours.
I truly don't know what you're talking about, so I can't really respond.
pj
chgo
Sure, of course it's true Patrick. You have softened concerning CTE.
No matter how much you deny it, it is true.:grin:
Free yourself, admit it.:grin:
I think you can get more out of shooting EVERY shot off the rail for an hour
How long does it take to hit 2 Million Balls, and how do you count them? LoL I have a difficult time counting the balls for one day.:wink:
Can we put it in hours for those of us that don't want to count? I would say it takes a thousand hours to raise your game from where it is now to where you would like it to be. The difference in levels is What you practice, not how long. I think you can get more out of shooting EVERY shot off the rail for an hour than practicing "other things" all day. imho
How long does it take to hit 2 Million Balls, and how do you count them? LoL I have a difficult time counting the balls for one day.:wink:
Can we put it in hours for those of us that don't want to count? I would say it takes a thousand hours to raise your game from where it is now to where you would like it to be. The difference in levels is What you practice, not how long. I think you can get more out of shooting EVERY shot off the rail for an hour than practicing "other things" all day. imho
Good Morning CJ,
The very first thing that my dad told me when introducing me to the game, as he some what pounded on it, was 'there is not a more solid bridge than the rail, use it whenever you can'. I know that may not be your meaning but maybe you should give a little more detail if you're trying to help Bruce.
Going for 2nd. cup of coffee which I just read can lead to vision issues later in life & I'm all ready later in life.
RJ
PS I watched you playing Charlie in Ultimate 10 ball. I picked up on your tennis grip & how 'long' you have the cue in your hand. That really is a different concept & goes with your statement about keeping the stroke out in front.
I just want to address this one part of your statement. Let's be clear about something here...every aiming system, or any other system player has said that the system is a shortcut. Now, what is a shortcut? A shortcut is something that enables you to take less time to get from point A to point B. It, by definition, still takes time, just takes less time.
Almost all of the system antagonist have equated a shortcut to time travel, meaning that they think a shortcut means that it takes no time to get from point A to point B. This is nothing more than a redherring on their part in their arguments because they have very little else to complain about with the systems because they don't even try them.
Any valid system, whether it be aiming, kicking, banking, position play, ect., WILL be a shortcut to mastering that ability. It will still take time at the table, but will take much less time than not using a system and trying to figure things out on your own.
Read "Talent is Overrated" by Geoff Colvin. It's been a while since I read it, but I believe he puts the number at 10,000 hours of deliberate practice
Lou Figueroa
Well Said.
I think we can agree on the Lou.
Hank Haney is a big on keeping the golf stroke "out in front of the body"
Hank Haney is a big on keeping the golf stroke "out in front of the body"....it took me a few times of him explaining it before I understood how important it is. It doesn't have anything to do with the grip, it's more about how you position the arms Before you get down. Watch the pre shot routine of Efren, Earl, and Mike Dechaine and see how they position their cues before they get down and you'll see what I'm referring to.
Hank Haney is a big on keeping the golf stroke "out in front of the body"....it took me a few times of him explaining it before I understood how important it is. It doesn't have anything to do with the grip, it's more about how you position the arms Before you get down. Watch the pre shot routine of Efren, Earl, and Mike Dechaine and see how they position their cues before they get down and you'll see what I'm referring to.
Just got my cte dvd today. I'll just get comfortable and watch it straight through and then I will attempt implementation. I'm sure I will have some questions.
Dave Nelson
Dave Nelson
What I have never understood is why some people seem to have a problem with shortcuts in the first place. Shortcuts are what got us to where we are as a civilization. There is nothing wrong with taking shortcuts if the result is the same or even better.
In my business I have found that time = quality. There are certain ways to do things that you simply don't have effective shortcuts for. But there are some tasks where there ARE shortcuts over the "traditional" way. And some of the most experienced leather workers in our craft have not only figured those out but they also share them with the rest of us.
Just about any sharing of knowledge, if it's accurate, leads to a shortcut over ignorant discovery. I am sorry but if I give two people a sack of beans and one of them gets no knowledge and the other gets some education in cultivation then I'd bet a lot of money that the one with education is going to get a better yield and may end up putting in less physical effort per acre.
You can bet that I read everything I can to learn how to do our job better and more efficiently. Because the time I save in one area translates to time I can afford to spend on another area. All of which translates to a tighter product with more choice for the consumer. In pool if I can nail down aiming with a "shortcut" that allows me to be extremely confident in my aim then that allows me more time to practice the tough shots, the strategy shots, tricky patterns and so on. If I don't have to EVER worry about whether I was aimed wrong then it frees me to look at the other parts of my mechanics and make sure they are where they should be.
But no matter what the technique is no one can truly master it without putting in some time ONLY on that technique. People who are looking for a magic pill usually find that such pills wear off quickly without diligent effort.
It will pay you back !
After a few weeks, if you do the work. You're playing speed will double. !!
Yes,, i said double !!
After a few weeks, if you do the work. You're playing speed will double. !!
Yes,, i said double !!
there really was a "magic pill"
If there really was a "magic pill" and you gave it to some people they would take it apart and try to see what ingredients were in it. Then wouldn't understand why it didn't work when they finally took the disassembled version.
If there really was a "magic pill" and you gave it to some people they would take it apart and try to see what ingredients were in it. Then wouldn't understand why it didn't work when they finally took the disassembled version.
The term "shortcut" often has a negative connotation, as if you are skipping important parts to finish quicker. It might be more accurate to say that something is more efficient, or is a more effective way. In the general sense there is no replacement for practice, but you can make your practice more efficient, more effective.
the mind/body/cue relationships are the most important
Specific knowledge is the only real "short cut" I've found. This means someone needs to not only explain why it works, but also how you go about doing it consistently as a human being.
Getting to caught up in the physics and complex explanations is unnecessary. I seriously have my doubts that anyone actually better by understanding spin/squirt ratios. The physics of the Game are simple, the geometry is slightly more difficult, and the mind/body/cue relationships are the most important.
The systems are simple, if willing to learn the basic foundation of the Game. You must have a system to set up the same relative to the "line of the shot" every time and build on that in levels. I've described it as a "7 Layer Cake", and it all starts at the feet.
If you aren't able to get your feet in the same place relative to the shot, then you will have no chance of getting the rest of you body set correctly. Pocket Billiards has such slim margins for error I believe it's essential to concentrate on your the basics. It will make the more sophisticated aspects of the Game much easier and playing at a high level well within your reach.
Specific knowledge is the only real "short cut" I've found. This means someone needs to not only explain why it works, but also how you go about doing it consistently as a human being.
Getting to caught up in the physics and complex explanations is unnecessary. I seriously have my doubts that anyone actually better by understanding spin/squirt ratios. The physics of the Game are simple, the geometry is slightly more difficult, and the mind/body/cue relationships are the most important.
The systems are simple, if willing to learn the basic foundation of the Game. You must have a system to set up the same relative to the "line of the shot" every time and build on that in levels. I've described it as a "7 Layer Cake", and it all starts at the feet.
If you aren't able to get your feet in the same place relative to the shot, then you will have no chance of getting the rest of you body set correctly. Pocket Billiards has such slim margins for error I believe it's essential to concentrate on your the basics. It will make the more sophisticated aspects of the Game much easier and playing at a high level well within your reach.
Our minds can be observed, trained, and never mastered