Cue prep for sales and shipping

rigmaster said:
I have never heard of the term SLIDING CALIPER I think the correct term might be Veneer Caliper, not to be rude either but if you are going to correct someone you should use the correct term! Mine are STARRETT. As for the Shaft measurement it is from the top of ferrule where the tip is applied not the wood below the ferrule ,this type of measurement would have you listing the shaft 1" to 1 1/4" shorter than it actually is! Just sayin....
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Not to be rude but "now you have"! I used the term slide because the original poster did. And it is Vernier , not Veneer. Most people today use LED Digital calipers but there is also Dial Calipers but they are all sliding. And starrett is just a brand not a type.

As far as measuring dia. (not lenght) correct position is just under ferrule as stated. I was not talking about length of shaft!

I guess I should have known better than to comment from the start.



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rigmaster said:
I have never heard of the term SLIDING CALIPER I think the correct term might be Veneer Caliper, not to be rude either but if you are going to correct someone you should use the correct term! Mine are STARRETT. As for the Shaft measurement it is from the top of ferrule where the tip is applied not the wood below the ferrule ,this type of measurement would have you listing the shaft 1" to 1 1/4" shorter than it actually is! Just sayin....
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Ron, I think he's referring to diameter at the ferrule/tip and just below on the shaft wood. On used cues, sometimes you see where the shafts are:

1. thinner (smaller diameter) at the tip than below the ferrule, so you can infer that it's had one or more improper tip jobs and the ferrule is coned.

2. thinner below the ferrule on the shaft wood that on the ferrule or at the tip, so you can infer that it's either been a) sanded down considerably or b) re-ferruled and it's not been trimmed down to where it should be.

Either way, a big variance means there's an issue going on. On a perfect, brand new shaft the measurement below the ferrule and at the tip should be the same.
 
Great thread Joe. I have seen some horrible cue packing jobs from a VERY well known cue maker (you and I discussed that a couple of weeks ago)!

I really like Murray Tucker's packing for shipping cues. He did some shaft repair work for me a couple of months ago and sent the shafts back sealed in bubble wrap, inside of a 3" PVC tube and then put in a triangle box to be shipped. Pretty much indestructible.
 
All great advice and basically the only way I will ship a cue. I like to use the plastic sleeves and then the bubble wrap.

The only thing I have to add would be that it is best to put a tube into a triangular shipping box.

There is a much lesser chance that the tube will roll off of conveyor belts and get damaged.

Russ...
 
My mistake, should have been calipers, I retired my digi-mic last year...

JV

saint1 said:
Not to be rude but "now you have"! I used the term slide because the original poster did. And it is Vernier , not Veneer. Most people today use LED Digital calipers but there is also Dial Calipers but they are all sliding. And starrett is just a brand not a type.

As far as measuring dia. (not lenght) correct position is just under ferrule as stated. I was not talking about length of shaft!

I guess I should have known better than to comment from the start.



Vernier Slide Calipers






Vernier Slide Calipers Are Ideal For Construction And Machine Shop Measuring Applications.

Vernier Slide Calipers are made of heavy duty materials for long lasting durability. Vernier Slide Calipers are available in a variety of types and sizes with assorted features.
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All this is true. You should list shaft sizes, weights, and descriptions separately for each shaft, you should list the butt weight and then the cue weight is the two. Mention anything visual, and also if you have checked it for straightness, list how you did it. Rolled in on the table, rail, lathe checked, etc..

Some people like the balance point noted. Thats the cue screwed together, balanced on your finger, then measure the end of the butt cap to your finger.

If you know the tips, say what they are. The more info the better. If the cue is MINT and was restored or refinished you should list the person that did the work. Do not let the buyer assume he is getting an original cue, the older cues this is very important, and with some big cues. I wouldn't want someone to buy a Searing and then find out that One Eyed Jack, down at the pool hall, did a respray.

JV


kvinbrwr said:
As a seller you want to accurately describe the item you are selling. You want to try to look at the item you are selling by anticipating your buyer's eye, and then tell him what you can see. No sense in trying to decide what you can get away with, because it will get noticed. Be picky in your description and you will avoid problems with you buyer later.

As a seller, you want to accurately describe your guarantee. If you don't mention it and you "get away with it" because the buyer doesn't ask, you really are now operating under whatever guarantee the buyer ASSUMED you to give. Everybody is far better off knowing what they are getting into up front.

Kevin
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Hey joe and everyone all I can say is that my wife and I both have received cues from joe In the past and he shipped evrything just the way he has described here and always have come in perfect condition so joes an expert at this in my opinion from jay
 
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saint1 said:
Not to be rude but "now you have"! I used the term slide because the original poster did. And it is Vernier , not Veneer. Most people today use LED Digital calipers but there is also Dial Calipers but they are all sliding. And starrett is just a brand not a type.

As far as measuring dia. (not lenght) correct position is just under ferrule as stated. I was not talking about length of shaft!

I guess I should have known better than to comment from the start.



Vernier Slide Calipers






Vernier Slide Calipers Are Ideal For Construction And Machine Shop Measuring Applications.

Vernier Slide Calipers are made of heavy duty materials for long lasting durability. Vernier Slide Calipers are available in a variety of types and sizes with assorted features.
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And STARRETT are one of the best however you spell it! LOL
 
Hard cardboard tube in a triangle box with the cue wrapped in copious bubble wrap.

I put duct tape on the metal calipers edges to avoid scratching the shafts.
 
cueaddicts said:
Ron, I think he's referring to diameter at the ferrule/tip and just below on the shaft wood. On used cues, sometimes you see where the shafts are:

1. thinner (smaller diameter) at the tip than below the ferrule, so you can infer that it's had one or more improper tip jobs and the ferrule is coned.

2. thinner below the ferrule on the shaft wood that on the ferrule or at the tip, so you can infer that it's either been a) sanded down considerably or b) re-ferruled and it's not been trimmed down to where it should be.

Either way, a big variance means there's an issue going on. On a perfect, brand new shaft the measurement below the ferrule and at the tip should be the same.
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This is very true. Case #1 will look like the point of a pencil (exaggerated). Case #2 will look like it "necks down". Both are very common, and are considered defects. A seller should measure the shaft in question at several places on the ferrule and the first few inches behind it, to see if he has any of these conditions. If he does, he should state the shaft as such.
 
Great thread

I received a cue from a clown from Vietnam (huysmall), and this was how the cue was wraped in a tube..about a 8000 mile trip..thin plastic sleeve, and 3 small pieces of bubble wrap...This was a case of not giving a shit..

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I like to know butt diameter and it is no big deal to include that measurement as well. Use those calipers! :)
 
snowmon34 said:
I received a cue from a clown from Vietnam (huysmall), and this was how the cue was wraped in a tube..about a 8000 mile trip..thin plastic sleeve, and 3 small pieces of bubble wrap...This was a case of not giving a shit..

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That picture should be in the how not to ship a cue thread... :)

JV
 
Wrapping/shipping

Whoever packed and shipped the cue like that definitely didn't give a shit.I really can't believe how some ppl ship items.I just received an item that did not have a box.It was all bubble wrap!Sad....
 
Box = more shipping fees
More bubble wraps = more shipping fees

Some people are just ridiculous, a cheap case would cost them less than $10 and they would not throw it in.
 
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classiccues said:
That picture should be in the how not to ship a cue thread... :)

JV
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I'll assume most on here have enough common sense on how to wrap a cue for maximum protection, but some people are ignorant, careless, or unconcerned...:)




batalarms said:
Whoever packed and shipped the cue like that definitely didn't give a shit.I really can't believe how some ppl ship items.I just received an item that did not have a box.It was all bubble wrap!Sad....
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He goes by huysmall, and your right he didn't G. A. S....The wrapping wasn't the only surprise ..You should see the hacked shaft I received that was described as original, and nearly excellent condition..

Great thread JV...
 
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