Mike Dechaine

FreeShot said:
If someone were to see a pro pool player openly cheat another player, would there be anything wrong with that person telling other people what they saw? So as to inform other people of this person's character.

This is just a theoretical question. I don't know anything about Mike or his actions.
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You raise a fine question. Suppose I were to make a deduction based on all the information I have regarding a particular player. And let us suppose in his lifetime he has had the opportunity to act unethically 10,000 times.

Now, how many of those 10,000 instances need I be knowledgable of before I can make a supportable deduction? What I am getting at is that I am not so concerned about one's opinion, I am concerned with the power and stability of the premise used to support the opinion.

And that does not even touch on the possibility of having a true opinion supported by a false premise.

Proposition: Earl Strickland has won 5 US Opens.

Premise: I observed him win the US Open in the years 84, 87, 93, 97, and 03.

The proposition is true yet the premise is false. Earl's last US Open win was in 02 instead of 03. So your belief could be true, yet your reasoning could be wrong. And I do not want to get into logic because we should all be playing pool instead of concerning ourselves with philosophy.
 
ChrisBanks said:
You raise a fine question. Suppose I were to make a deduction based on all the information I have regarding a particular player. And let us suppose in his lifetime he has had the opportunity to act unethically 10,000 times.

Now, how many of those 10,000 instances need I be knowledgable of before I can make a supportable deduction? What I am getting at is that I am not so concerned about one's opinion, I am concerned with the power and stability of the premise used to support the opinion.

And that does not even touch on the possibility of having a true opinion supported by a false premise.

Proposition: Earl Strickland has won 5 US Opens.

Premise: I observed him win the US Open in the years 84, 87, 93, 97, and 03.

The proposition is true yet the premise is false. Earl's last US Open win was in 02 instead of 03. So your belief could be true, yet your reasoning could be wrong. And I do not want to get into logic because we should all be playing pool instead of concerning ourselves with philosophy.
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That is a long-winded way of not answering the question. I am not asking about opinions or deductions. I am talking about someone who sees first-hand, with their own eyes, someone cheat another player. Is there anything wrong with that person passing along that information to others?
 
FreeShot said:
That is a long-winded way of not answering the question. I am not asking about opinions or deductions. I am talking about someone who sees first-hand, with their own eyes, someone cheat another player. Is there anything wrong with that person passing along that information to others?
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I wish more people would speak out when they KNOW this happens. It might stop a lot of it eventually.

Maniac
 
My point is that musn't you post all of the actions of a specific person, not just the actions you deem harmful?

And if only negative actions are reported to me, will I not have a poor view of everyone that I assess?

And can I make a supportable deduction based on one data point? Certainly you can argue yes. It only takes one instance of murder.

What about one instance of theft? Yes, but how many times did he not steal when he could have? What is the right formula to use?

And if you accuse Mike of being a thief, will you choose to emphasize his shortcomings, or will you try to help him?

I feel bad, because all the time spent on this thread could have been directed to pool, and we could have all become better players in that amount of time. But such has not been the case at all.
 
ChrisBanks said:
I'm a big supporter of Mike, no sarcasm.

Just recently I watched about 10 hours worth of him playing 9-ball, just to record the order that he racks the balls for his opponent, no sarcasm here either.
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I gotta ask the obvious here...why did it take you 10 hours to record the order (pattern) in which Mike racked the balls for his opponent?

I'm not very smart, but I believe I can do it watching only 1 rack!


Gary
 
Ky Boy said:
I gotta ask the obvious here...why did it take you 10 hours to record the order (pattern) in which Mike racked the balls for his opponent?

I'm not very smart, but I believe I can do it watching only 1 rack!


Gary
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Friend, I can't release that volatile information, but Mike does not rack the balls in the same order each rack. There are certain consistencies with each rack at times. But there are four categories: Rack your own 9-ball. Rack your own 10-ball. Loser racks 9-ball. Loser racks 10-ball.

I am currently compiling racking data on The Fireball, The Prince of Pool, Donnie Mills, The Pearl, and several other players. I am sure you've watched Tucker, but I want to be observant of any changes in racking behavior over time.

You have proven your weakness by attempting to formulate a hypothesis based on a sample size of 1.
 
ChrisBanks said:
Friend, I can't release that volatile information, but Mike does not rack the balls in the same order each rack. There are certain consistencies with each rack at times. But there are four categories: Rack your own 9-ball. Rack your own 10-ball. Loser racks 9-ball. Loser racks 10-ball.

I am currently compiling racking data on The Fireball, The Prince of Pool, Donnie Mills, The Pearl, and several other players. I am sure you've watched Tucker, but I want to be observant of any changes in racking behavior over time.

You have proven your weakness by attempting to formulate a hypothesis based on a sample size of 1.
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Yes~I am very weak! :rolleyes:
 
ChrisBanks said:
Friend, I can't release that volatile information, but Mike does not rack the balls in the same order each rack. There are certain consistencies with each rack at times. But there are four categories: Rack your own 9-ball. Rack your own 10-ball. Loser racks 9-ball. Loser racks 10-ball.

I am currently compiling racking data on The Fireball, The Prince of Pool, Donnie Mills, The Pearl, and several other players. I am sure you've watched Tucker, but I want to be observant of any changes in racking behavior over time.

You have proven your weakness by attempting to formulate a hypothesis based on a sample size of 1.
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Sorry I was absent for so long, I took the family to the zoo. My daughter LOVED the turtles.
 
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