pro players are they the best instructors?

An instructor, first and foremost, must be able to communicate with his pupil, as has been alluded to by many on this thread.
A pro player certainly has the talent to play, but not nesessarily the talent to teach, although sometimes they do. The instructor, on the other hand, has the talent to teach, but not necesessarily the talent to play at the pro level although some have accomplished both.
On the other hand, the pro and the instructor have the ability to teach at some level although to what extent is generally unknown, unless otherwise specified.
In summation, I believe the pro player could indeed benefit from the instruction by an instructor, and the instructor could do well by learning from the pro player. Only time will tell regarding this matter.
I hope I have provided some insight on the subject. :smile:
 
Sorry CJ...You got the wrong guy again. It wasn't the SPF school/Randyg that Jimmy went to (and I've certainly never worked with the guy...although I've worked successfully with some other pros on this issue). Ask Randy. I still don't know what you're afraid of? Nobody wants to try and change what you do...we just want to verify it (or show you it's not what you think).

As far as that tired old video...whatever! Tell ya what...since it's obvious from the video that I can't run three balls...I'll take the 2 out + the break, and you can bet as high as you want! Will that work for you? I'll even come to Dallas! :grin:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

CJ Wiley said:
That's funny, Scott :) ......No the real reason is Jimmy Wetch told me about working with you and your "pool school" on this very subject and it caused irreparable damage.

Would you like me to get a specific story (from Jimmy himself) of how this happened? I will certainly do that if you want me to....do you?..:eek:..do you really want me to??? It's fun to poke at me isn't it? :groucho:
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Actually, this is a great post...and spot on Tramp! :thumbup:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

Tramp Steamer said:
An instructor, first and foremost, must be able to communicate with his pupil, as has been alluded to by many on this thread.
A pro player certainly has the talent to play, but not nesessarily the talent to teach, although sometimes they do. The instructor, on the other hand, has the talent to teach, but not necesessarily the talent to play at the pro level although some have accomplished both.
On the other hand, the pro and the instructor have the ability to teach at some level although to what extent is generally unknown, unless otherwise specified.
In summation, I believe the pro player could indeed benefit from the instruction by an instructor, and the instructor could do well by learning from the pro player. Only time will tell regarding this matter.
I hope I have provided some insight on the subject. :smile:
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]I'll give you the 3 and the Break, how about those apples, you do like apples?

Scott Lee said:
Sorry CJ...You got the wrong guy again. It wasn't the SPF school/Randyg that Jimmy went to (and I've certainly never worked with the guy...although I've worked successfully with some other pros on this issue). Ask Randy. As far as that tired old video...whatever! Tell ya what...since it's obvious from the video that I can't run three balls...I'll take the 2 out + the break, and you can bet as high as you want! Will that work for you? I'll even come to Dallas! :grin:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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At least you know how much weight you acually need. That disproves the rumor that you're a nit and a "lock up artist". 'The Game is the Teacher'

I'll give you the 3 and the Break, how about those apples, you do like apples don't you?
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CJ Wiley said:
That's funny, Scott :) ......No the real reason is Jimmy Wetch told me about working with you and your "pool school" on this very subject and it caused irreparable damage.

Would you like me to get a specific story (from Jimmy himself) of how this happened? I will certainly do that if you want me to....do you?..:eek:..do you really want me to??? It's fun to poke at me isn't it? :groucho:

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Cheap shot. Anyone can have a bad game. This thread is taking an ugly turn.
 
How can you say golf is harder than pool? Neither game can be perfected. Competition is stiffer in golf because everyone plays. If POol was played by as many people as golf in america then we would have a different lineup of top players. SVB might be sitting home as an amateur. Overall golf is played 10 times as much as pool in america. *. Competition is what decides how difficult a game is. Golf has one ball involved, weather conditions affect play, no direct opposition with golf, nobody is p;laying safe on you, ( holes, 9 sets. Not nearly as much problem solving involved as with pool. Shoot your ball in the cup takes a lot of decision making abilities. Go play some golf if its a much harder game. you wil get more respect from the average population
CJ Wiley said:
well said....pool's an easier game than golf and there's no physical requirements to run 100s or racks playing rotation. If you knew the same stuff I know you could play like me, plane and simple. 'The Game is the Teacher'
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He can get the 3 and the Break playing 9 Ball and he can bring his "A" Game.

Cdryden said:
Cheap shot. Anyone can have a bad game. This thread is taking an ugly turn.
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This guy has been taking "cheap shots" against me for months now. He went back and erased all the posts he wrote insulting me and I never retaliated, HOWEVER, at some point I will push back. :) He can get the 3 and the Break playing 9 Ball and he can bring his "A" Game....He DID ask me to play didn't he???. 'The Game Will Be His Teacher' :wink:
 
No thanks CJ...I'll stick with the 2 out + the break. I mean, come on, YOU'RE the World Champion! You can just call me Lock & Lock...cuz I will get the cheese! LMAO I'm done with this thread. I believe a lot of people would be interested in knowing EXACTLY what your eyes do...I know I would!

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
 
What BS is this? I have NEVER ONCE erased a post in any thread I've participated in, for the 10 years I've been here. Once again, you're talking about another 'instructor' poster. Get your facts straight buddy...:rolleyes:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com

CJ Wiley said:
This guy has been taking "cheap shots" against me for months now. He went back and erased all the posts he wrote insulting me and I never retaliated, HOWEVER, at some point I will push back. :) He can get the 3 and the Break playing 9 Ball and he can bring his "A" Game....He DID ask me to play didn't he???. 'The Game Will Be His Teacher' :wink:
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It's all in good fun. He's a good humored fella. :)

Cdryden said:
Opps, my bad. My memory is about as good as my geography. Not sure what is going on between you and Scott but I am sure you both have a wealth of knowledge to pass on to people.

I would be happy to learn from either of you.
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It's all in good fun. He's a good humored fella. :)
 
I do get you guys confused.

Scott Lee said:
What BS is this? I have NEVER ONCE erased a post in any thread I've participated in, for the 10 years I've been here. Once again, you're talking about another 'instructor' poster. Get your facts straight buddy...:rolleyes:

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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I do get you guys confused. So how about that Game? I will play, I need some practice anyway. ;)
 
Spimp13 said:
From purely a physical viewpoint can you honestly say that golf is NOT harder than pool with a straight face?
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pretty easily. In golf, no matter what your first shot is, there is 0 expectation of you shooting again within 30 seconds. So regardless of direct physical effort on a single stroke, there is far more rest period between those strokes. Whereas with pool your concentration (central nervous system stimulation) stays high for the extended period as you continue to sink balls.
 
EasyEJL said:
you haven't noticed that its virtually universal that threads about instructors do take ugly turns in one direction or another?
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Well, I have stayed out of those threads for the most part. They are both better players than I and it would be a little out of my league to debate either of them on the subject.
I guess it's to be expected when 2 people who are very passionate about a subject have conflicting viewpoints there is going to be some tension.
 
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