UPDATE for getting scammed by Rusty Cannon from North Carolina
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Lol you are such a toolbag! You obviously can't read because I wrote that I went to the cops numerous times and called numerous times and they don't do anything! They say, "we will see what we can do!" Mr. Knowitall! Wow I never thought to go to the cops!! Thanks for the great idea I will try it! That's sarcasm because I'm sure your to stupid to pick that up.
I wish I wouldn't have posted about it and the same person would have scammed you you inconsiderate f***!
And if you want to grow a set come up to Pennsylvania sometime and ill give you my location.
Thanks,
Tim
May the same thing (or worse) happen to you... and you can find out just how little the law will help in a case like this. AZB is mostly a community of dedicated pool players and there are many here that have your back when nothing else can be done... well after that rude remark of yours, we probably don't have "your" back.
So what do you care... if you don't like this thread then quit being an insensitive loud mouthed jerk and just move the hell on.
Don't let this guy get to you Tim, he's obviously off of his meds. Back in October in your original thread he wrote...
He sounds rather bipolar to me. Maybe the photos that were posted hit a little too close to home or something... LOL.
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Have you tried contacting these agencies to see where your case is? With my experience you have to hound the crap out of these people. If you don't your nothing more than another case. But if you give them hell well they seem to be a little more eager to help.
You got the wrong guy!
Tim,
It is you that needs to take your ass to N.C. and talk to rusty! All your pissing and moaning here will not get your cue back! You made a mistake and sent your cue to the wrong person without taking steps to protect yourself and it is GONE! Learn from your mistakes and move on or just move on.....Really WTF it is a good idea to get your money first then ship the cue or deal thru Marcus! Just be glad it wasn't a Szamboti and move forward.
Ron
Tim,
It is you that needs to take your ass to N.C. and talk to rusty! All your pissing and moaning here will not get your cue back! You made a mistake and sent your cue to the wrong person without taking steps to protect yourself and it is GONE! Learn from your mistakes and move on or just move on.....Really WTF it is a good idea to get your money first then ship the cue or deal thru Marcus! Just be glad it wasn't a Szamboti and move forward.
Ron
I definitely learned my lesson with it. And it's just tiresome hounding away at the police when all they say after all the new evidence and all the information that I retrieved on my own is that they will see what they can do.
No follow up phone calls from them or anything. And I called the other day and right away the police officer said that they didn't hear anything new with it. And I was telling them some information and the cop said that he had to I he's trying to show a video on a retail theft worth $2800.
So I guess that was more important than my pool stick. It's reasons like that that police aren't respected and citizens just don't have faith in them.
I have more faith in my fellow azers to hopefully hear or see rusty or my cue. That's why I keep bumping it to keep the thread alive because hopefully something new that will help might come in to play.
Also I called police in North Carolina and they said that I have to go toy local police and they will handle it. So it's a lose lose situation and it's just frustrating. I also filed a report with the USPS postal investigator fraud unit. Haven't heard from them and it's harder talk to somebody there about it.
I know it's not a super expensive stick and I'm thankful for that fact, but it wa still worth hundreds of dollars. I just saw one sell on eBay the same exact model for $611. It was in Denham Springs, Louisiana. Not sure if it was mine or not. Could've been since Steve Vick said he sold the cue.
Look, he has dicked around and now the people that had the cue know it is stolen. Guess what, they have sold it too. The chances of finding the cue are zero at this point. The distinguishing feature was taken away by the refinish at Carolina. He now knows the cue was sold by the third guy that bought it. His only recourse now is criminally.
I have been had over the years by several folks. Not calling any names, but still waiting to get a rifle back on a deal that happened here. This place is full of scammers, tire kickers and flakes.
My special message to you is FOAD.
I think that most would agree with you that keeping this thread alive is pointless. It's more then likely not going to help. Just let the thread go because we have heard the whole story over and over again.
However the FOAD comment is completely unnecessary. Comments like that show what kind of person you are. Ignorance never helps either.
What he said+1...............
The guy says "hope something worse happens to you." Ignorant, hardly. What kind of person I am, hardly. Unnecessary, perhaps. Maybe just change it to a simply Don't stop to collect your $200 bucks as you pass the gates of hades.
All this does is reinforce what I said. Telling people to die and go to hell and all that stuff just proves that you must be a truly miserable person. I feel sorry you sir. This is the last comment I will make here, so as to let this thread die.
Listen, here is the deal. In many jurisdictions, there is a difference between truly having something stolen from you and voluntarily surrendering the same in a scam. IF the cue was in a car, someone smashed the window and took it, that is theft. Here, Thubosky volunarily surrendered the cue to the scammer.
In this case, if the scammer still has the cue, he could have filed a civil detainer action to recover the cue. He didn't. Because of the nature of the delivery of the cue to the scammer, it is highly unlikely that he would be able to recover the cue from anyone downstream from the scammer. If the subsequent purchaser paid money and had no knowledge of the scam at the time of purchase, he is what is called in law, a bona fide purchaser and has title to the cue.
One remedy for Thubosdy is to sue the original scammer for the unpaid purchase price, and chase him for the rest of his life to collect a civil judgment. He can do that in his own back yard, then he will have to "domesticate" the judgment in North Carolina, get an attorney to figure out where scammer works and garnish his wages or levy on property he owns.
Second option is to get law enforcement involved, either local or through the US Postal Service, to start a criminal action to press charges and have his lost money ordered as restitution by the criminal court.
Cops and investigators work on cases in terms of severity and priority. Oftentimes, the loudest barking dog gets attention. Local cops aren't going to pay much attention to a "foreigner" who managed to get scammed out of a $600 cue. If you make the trip to push the issue, file the reports, etc., it might get a little more attention. Call every day, and it might get more attention. Same for the Postal Inspector. Other option is to go to the US Attorney's office and see if you can get an audience. Trust me, they probably don't give a shit about a $600 cue when they are looking at monster cases. If the scammer is from Nigeria and doing this daily, yeah they might get excited. Here, not likely.
Point I am make probably not very artfully was that coming here and whining isn't going to make anything happen. Real question is how much time and money do you invest in recovering a $600 cue.
Several years ago, had a friend with a fairly unique custom built banjo that got stolen out of his car at a fiddler's convention. Worth about $3,000. Police report filed, Twenty years later they find it in the hands of a guy that bought it at a yard sale for $125. I filed suit for the guy, and after two years of legal wrangling in civil court, we got the banjo back. This was a true theft case, and the subsequent purchaser had no legal title to the banjo because of the theft. Had the owner voluntarily surrendered the banjo to a repairman who subsequently sold it without the owner's knowledge, very different result, which is the same as the case here.
Sorry for being less than tactful, but coming here isn't going to do anything to get the cue or his money returned. Thubosky is going to have to step up and take some legal action on his own, and/or drive someone nuts until they help him.
In this case, if the scammer still has the cue, he could have filed a civil detainer action to recover the cue. He didn't. Because of the nature of the delivery of the cue to the scammer, it is highly unlikely that he would be able to recover the cue from anyone downstream from the scammer. If the subsequent purchaser paid money and had no knowledge of the scam at the time of purchase, he is what is called in law, a bona fide purchaser and has title to the cue.
One remedy for Thubosdy is to sue the original scammer for the unpaid purchase price, and chase him for the rest of his life to collect a civil judgment. He can do that in his own back yard, then he will have to "domesticate" the judgment in North Carolina, get an attorney to figure out where scammer works and garnish his wages or levy on property he owns.
Second option is to get law enforcement involved, either local or through the US Postal Service, to start a criminal action to press charges and have his lost money ordered as restitution by the criminal court.
Cops and investigators work on cases in terms of severity and priority. Oftentimes, the loudest barking dog gets attention. Local cops aren't going to pay much attention to a "foreigner" who managed to get scammed out of a $600 cue. If you make the trip to push the issue, file the reports, etc., it might get a little more attention. Call every day, and it might get more attention. Same for the Postal Inspector. Other option is to go to the US Attorney's office and see if you can get an audience. Trust me, they probably don't give a shit about a $600 cue when they are looking at monster cases. If the scammer is from Nigeria and doing this daily, yeah they might get excited. Here, not likely.
Point I am make probably not very artfully was that coming here and whining isn't going to make anything happen. Real question is how much time and money do you invest in recovering a $600 cue.
Several years ago, had a friend with a fairly unique custom built banjo that got stolen out of his car at a fiddler's convention. Worth about $3,000. Police report filed, Twenty years later they find it in the hands of a guy that bought it at a yard sale for $125. I filed suit for the guy, and after two years of legal wrangling in civil court, we got the banjo back. This was a true theft case, and the subsequent purchaser had no legal title to the banjo because of the theft. Had the owner voluntarily surrendered the banjo to a repairman who subsequently sold it without the owner's knowledge, very different result, which is the same as the case here.
Sorry for being less than tactful, but coming here isn't going to do anything to get the cue or his money returned. Thubosky is going to have to step up and take some legal action on his own, and/or drive someone nuts until they help him.
clearly you guys should read the post of the conversation the op posted.. he did offer to return the cue to him, the op stated he didnt want the cue he wanted the guys a**.. imo the op should stop his whining an chalk his loss up, the other guy done what was right he refused it. an yes ive been burnt on a website before.an it happened to be a archery website..
I'd lay a wager that the dealer wasn't going to "give the cue back". I bet he was selling it for retail or something like that. I wouldn't stand around to get robbed and then pay for the privilege, either.
you may be correct, but we dont know that answer nor can we assume what that out come could have or would have been.. because the op stated he didnt want the cue he wanted his a**.. that is my opinion its not worth tea in china but it is what it is..