is it possible to buy a searingcue for under 3-4 k
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Cal your list of cue makers sez a lot about the size of the glasses! Lol
You state 4 cue makers that make a difference in your game however one of them is in the lower group? Barry is down there with Tascarella lol
Tad is like Southwest same thing over and over. Barry and Pete make traditional cues and Barry and Searing are the 2 top cue makers that if you are lucky enough to get a cue from them it can be sold for twice what you paid! Try that with any of the others on your list! Dennis and the other Florida cue makers are some of the best out there period!
You state 4 cue makers that make a difference in your game however one of them is in the lower group? Barry is down there with Tascarella lol
Tad is like Southwest same thing over and over. Barry and Pete make traditional cues and Barry and Searing are the 2 top cue makers that if you are lucky enough to get a cue from them it can be sold for twice what you paid! Try that with any of the others on your list! Dennis and the other Florida cue makers are some of the best out there period!
Dennis can surely make 6 and 8 pointers.. Just look at the "Searing Twins"
Chris
Chris
So the problem with Dennis’ cues is that he basically starts from the chassis up (making sure that everything he assembles is made to the highest tolerances of any cuemaker, redesigning how veneers are made and incorporated in a cue as well as other aspects of cue construction, and generally paying attention to every detail from the bumper all the way to the tip) and when it comes time to put inlays in he makes sure that they are as close to perfect as humanly possible?
And, by the way, he makes sure they are good players.
I HATE THAT
I am also pretty confident that when it comes time for Dennis to make an art cue it will be to everyone’s standards.
He also does not charge anywhere near secondary market values for his cues.
And, by the way, he makes sure they are good players.
I HATE THAT
I am also pretty confident that when it comes time for Dennis to make an art cue it will be to everyone’s standards.
He also does not charge anywhere near secondary market values for his cues.
Yep he makes his own veneers , pins ,weight bolts etc... The wood is select no knots no fillers he mills his joint collars and inlays the stitch rather than stacking rings everything is threaded glued and screwed his ivory over stainless joint is just that a steel joint turned down threaded and an ivory sleeve it threaded and screwed over the stainless joint! The weight bolt is polished to a mirror finish and the bumper put on it. The inside of the stainless joint is polished better than the outside so it won't wear the pilot on the shaft and it will fit tighter than any other cue makers shaft. Dennis is the only cue maker I know of that uses the word precision in his company name Dennis Searing Precision cues!
Seriously? You compare Dennis Searing cues to DP cues? And you expect to be taken seriously? How many Searings have you owned?
Quality is ALWAYS in demand. Searing cues are SERIOUS quality. As another poster put it, Searing cues are held in super high regard by his peers...other great cuemakers.
I have had the privilege of owning cues by a few different cuemakers over the years. Searing cues are not overrated, by any means. The secondary market value is just what it is...supply vs demand...Mr Searing doesn't set it, it is what it is.
BTW, how do you know that Laurie Franklin has never built a SW cue?
Joe
Wow.......Typical Forum Reaction
The original poster asks a question about buying a Searing cue for x dollars and then the bottom feeders all start to come out......pretty predictable for the Forum the two years.
If Searing cues are over-rated or over-priced, the secondary resale market would confirm that with the price of his cues......and his cues sell really high......duh?
Let's face the truth, Searing cues undoubtedly play better than most cues, not all cues. So when you compare his cue-making with others, at least make it a fair comparison, not a silly one like comparing Searing cues with Dale Perry cues. Please, this only confirms you really do not understand the value or price of pool cues.
The cue does not make you play better unless the cue you're using doesn't have the specs you normally play with or prefer to use. Owning a Paul Mottey cue doesn't make me a more knowledgeable pool player, a smarter player, or a more talented player. My shooting skills don't improve a bit with a better cue but "my focus" or concentration admittedly increases. So when I try harder, pay more attention to my stroke and the speed of the cue ball, I play better.....and it's not because of the pool cue.
Here's the bottom-line.....when you own a really great pool cue, and to some that suggests an expensive cue but that's not necessarily true, you tend to pay closer attention to your game. After all, you can't blame your equipment and if you play with a cue costing several thousands of dollars, you should really have better than average playing abilities. I submit that owning this type of cue motivates the cue owner to try harder and thus improve their game.
The original poster asks a question about buying a Searing cue for x dollars and then the bottom feeders all start to come out......pretty predictable for the Forum the two years.
If Searing cues are over-rated or over-priced, the secondary resale market would confirm that with the price of his cues......and his cues sell really high......duh?
Let's face the truth, Searing cues undoubtedly play better than most cues, not all cues. So when you compare his cue-making with others, at least make it a fair comparison, not a silly one like comparing Searing cues with Dale Perry cues. Please, this only confirms you really do not understand the value or price of pool cues.
The cue does not make you play better unless the cue you're using doesn't have the specs you normally play with or prefer to use. Owning a Paul Mottey cue doesn't make me a more knowledgeable pool player, a smarter player, or a more talented player. My shooting skills don't improve a bit with a better cue but "my focus" or concentration admittedly increases. So when I try harder, pay more attention to my stroke and the speed of the cue ball, I play better.....and it's not because of the pool cue.
Here's the bottom-line.....when you own a really great pool cue, and to some that suggests an expensive cue but that's not necessarily true, you tend to pay closer attention to your game. After all, you can't blame your equipment and if you play with a cue costing several thousands of dollars, you should really have better than average playing abilities. I submit that owning this type of cue motivates the cue owner to try harder and thus improve their game.
Loads of garbage by some have been posted on this thread. Also some have added valuable good insight on the thread. From another cuemakers perspective, Dennis Searing is the best of the best. There could be a discussion on who is the best and maybe some good comparisons could be made. Trust me there is not a cuemaker more precise in the world as Dennis. His cues are second to none. If you want fancy, he can absolutly do that with the best of the best. I think he is smart making affordable players with great precision, his list is endless way past his limit. If he made cues that cost crazy $$$ how many on the list would get cues??? Not many, and the cost would be way high for his time. For those who have his cues you know the quality and understand the hype. For those who don't you can only specualte that they are overpriced/overrated.
Ok guys....I've just picked up a really nice Dale Perry 1/1 and for what it's worth...it plays super solid. Everything looks to be CNC, the work on the cue is not perfect like a searing but its very good and it even came with a Curly maple shaft....that's right...curly maple shaft that is dead straight. Heck, I think this shaft alone is worth more than the price of his cue. After putting on my usual Molavia hard tip on this shaft and playing with the cue for a few hours against the ghost...I can say that this specific DP cue plays very strong and comparable to a lot of the higher end priced cues.
Anyway, my point is that if the secondary Market is willing to pay XXX Price for the precision cues from Dennis than great...keep the buyers coming!! If you're not willing to and feel that it not worth the price than just don't buy and move on. Really no need to bash or feel that someone is been robbed...eventually the market will settle on the right price.
I would like to think that people here are pretty smart so I'm sure there no need to defend a price on a cue. Heck, a piece of painting goes for 30 Millions in an auction and we're here trying to quantity if a cue is worth 3-4K? All I Know, is that if you are fortunate enough to pick up one of my custom cue that I personally made....in the next 20 years...you'll see some of my rare cues going for 1 Million
! If you tried one of my cues, you'll probably will not play with another. :grin-square:
The whole cue market is depressed and everyone is searching for a good buy and there are definitely some to be found. At the end of the day, buy what you want and pay what you think it worth to you. I can tell you my cue is worth 1 Million, but if all you got is 250.00...I might just let it go just for the heck of it.
Duc.
Anyway, my point is that if the secondary Market is willing to pay XXX Price for the precision cues from Dennis than great...keep the buyers coming!! If you're not willing to and feel that it not worth the price than just don't buy and move on. Really no need to bash or feel that someone is been robbed...eventually the market will settle on the right price.
I would like to think that people here are pretty smart so I'm sure there no need to defend a price on a cue. Heck, a piece of painting goes for 30 Millions in an auction and we're here trying to quantity if a cue is worth 3-4K? All I Know, is that if you are fortunate enough to pick up one of my custom cue that I personally made....in the next 20 years...you'll see some of my rare cues going for 1 Million
! If you tried one of my cues, you'll probably will not play with another. :grin-square:The whole cue market is depressed and everyone is searching for a good buy and there are definitely some to be found. At the end of the day, buy what you want and pay what you think it worth to you. I can tell you my cue is worth 1 Million, but if all you got is 250.00...I might just let it go just for the heck of it.
Duc.
I just love getting you guys fired up..... I never said Tad was better quality. I knew the Dale Perry comparison was going to get allot of attention....relax boys... Dennis makes a great cue, but i make a much better perfect Margarita... Lol
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its interesting to me how my thread evolved
ive enjoyed the read
and thanks to all that offered me cues
my impression is on a secodary market somethings value is what someone is willing to pay for it and someone is willing to sell it for
i do beleive in the theory that its the indian not the arrow
but a better arrow cant hurt...:grin:
is their a premium for the limited number on the market
the "mystique " of its (searing)playability
and quality of craftsmanship
i say yes
whether its worth the premium is in the eyes of the buyer and the amount of disposable income they have
thats my 39 cents worth (more than 2 cents because this is a dennis searing thread.............:grin
ive enjoyed the read
and thanks to all that offered me cues
my impression is on a secodary market somethings value is what someone is willing to pay for it and someone is willing to sell it for
i do beleive in the theory that its the indian not the arrow
but a better arrow cant hurt...:grin:
is their a premium for the limited number on the market
the "mystique " of its (searing)playability
and quality of craftsmanship
i say yes
whether its worth the premium is in the eyes of the buyer and the amount of disposable income they have
thats my 39 cents worth (more than 2 cents because this is a dennis searing thread....
.........:grinredwingfan
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bbb,
IMHO, the proof of a cue, other than pure art & flash, is when you take it to the table.... Does it feel good to you, can you use it well???? Mechanics use many tools, and they all fix cars, does the $2000 wrench fix a car any better than say a $20 wrench???? If it will turn the bolt, it'll turn the bolt..... I've owned many cues, from many different cue makers & the same thing applies to cues... I've even owned Southwest's (made by Jerry Himself - 1987) & the cues he made me "i never played CLOSE to what they charge for them today, only a small, small fraction of that...... And it still played very good...
Bottom line..... The ONLY thing that matters, if you're playing with it, does it make the balls & does it feel good doing it????? The rest is all for the "EGO"!!!!! (IMHO)
IMHO, the proof of a cue, other than pure art & flash, is when you take it to the table.... Does it feel good to you, can you use it well???? Mechanics use many tools, and they all fix cars, does the $2000 wrench fix a car any better than say a $20 wrench???? If it will turn the bolt, it'll turn the bolt..... I've owned many cues, from many different cue makers & the same thing applies to cues... I've even owned Southwest's (made by Jerry Himself - 1987) & the cues he made me "i never played CLOSE to what they charge for them today, only a small, small fraction of that...... And it still played very good...
Bottom line..... The ONLY thing that matters, if you're playing with it, does it make the balls & does it feel good doing it????? The rest is all for the "EGO"!!!!! (IMHO)
redwingfan
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bbb,
IMHO, the proof of a cue, other than pure art & flash, is when you take it to the table.... Does it feel good to you, can you use it well???? Mechanics use many tools, and they all fix cars, does the $2000 wrench fix a car any better than say a $20 wrench???? If it will turn the bolt, it'll turn the bolt..... I've owned many cues, from many different cue makers & the same thing applies to cues... I've even owned Southwest's (made by Jerry Himself - 1987) & the cues he made me "i never paid CLOSE to what they charge for them today, only a small, small fraction of that...... And it still played very good...
Bottom line..... The ONLY thing that matters, if you're playing with it, does it make the balls & does it feel good doing it????? The rest is all for the "EGO"!!!!! (IMHO)
IMHO, the proof of a cue, other than pure art & flash, is when you take it to the table.... Does it feel good to you, can you use it well???? Mechanics use many tools, and they all fix cars, does the $2000 wrench fix a car any better than say a $20 wrench???? If it will turn the bolt, it'll turn the bolt..... I've owned many cues, from many different cue makers & the same thing applies to cues... I've even owned Southwest's (made by Jerry Himself - 1987) & the cues he made me "i never paid CLOSE to what they charge for them today, only a small, small fraction of that...... And it still played very good...
Bottom line..... The ONLY thing that matters, if you're playing with it, does it make the balls & does it feel good doing it????? The rest is all for the "EGO"!!!!! (IMHO)