Sorry CJ you are right!
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No reason to explain, maybe one day we meet if you come to Lucy's Arlinton, VA, USA, but for now except this fact and never look back, learn your cue. CJ DVD will help for sure.
Let us know how you came to this conclusion. Thanks.
Sounds like Naji is working the middle of the cue ball more. If naj cuts a ball to the left, he's probably finishing the shot with less r/h English which makes the shot allot more simplified. He'll then be able to slow down his swing and gain better control of the shot and shape.
HE's in friggin, Tokyo!
Plus, if he gets to DC, I get first dibs on that sweet action....he will be watching ME expose the lint in YOUR pockets.
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Thanks BB, tell me where is Wrap City in your profile; you never know where anyone any more, could be a guy i play with, why teach him, but you got a ball!!
Everyone knows how to hit center of CB, but to do it consistently at all speeds it is doubtful; therefore, your pocketing, and position play will most certainly be effected, TOI will help in this department; no i am not CJ, or even know CJ, but he is right.
Hi Mr. Naji,
I'm glad you have come to 'real eyes' that no human being is perfect & putting the center of a 3 mm cue tip patch on the perfect center line of a round cue ball is probably impossible to do consistently.
I realized that fact even with the extremely good hand eye coordination of a young 13 yr. old adolescent. That is part of the reason that I chose to shoot with english on nearly every shot. A planned hit off center is certainly better than a hit off center that pops up on an unknown side with no plan for it.
Welcome to the fold of logical thinking.
Shoot Well & Best Regards,
Rick
Good morning,
Since you have asked twice I'm taking a wild guess that you are either being facetious or... you are serious.
In any case, due to gravity & the ball being round, the center is where the ball contacts the table.
If the cut is to the right then the inside is on the right side of center & vise versa.
Knowing where the center & inside are is not the problem.
Trying to hit the exact center vertical axis of a small round ball with a the exact 3 mm center of a 13 mm or less tip on the end of an approximate 58 inch stick is the problem.
Regards,
Rick
PS To answer your simple question more directly, I do not need to know where the center is to know what the 'inside' of an angle is. That's the very easy part. Now defining the amount of off center down to a 'touch' is a little more difficult but not really that difficult.
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TOI really works
When I originally read CJ's TOI system I though maybe CJ was losing it but I thought if the greatest money player in American history ( he beat most of the Phillapine champions gambling) who am I to question him so I committed to trying it and was pleasantly surprised that I was beating the ghost much more than I used to. Their is a lot of wisdom in his TOI and his 3 part pocket system and I strongly endorse his videos which will help your game for sure.
When I originally read CJ's TOI system I though maybe CJ was losing it but I thought if the greatest money player in American history ( he beat most of the Phillapine champions gambling) who am I to question him so I committed to trying it and was pleasantly surprised that I was beating the ghost much more than I used to. Their is a lot of wisdom in his TOI and his 3 part pocket system and I strongly endorse his videos which will help your game for sure.
CJ is certainly a great player, but to call TOI his system may be a bit inaccurate. Back in the late 60s I was told about this technique. A very good straight pool player suggested it to me after I asked him why I was having so much trouble with long shots. He explained it saying it helps keeping your shot online.
It's not who's "right or wrong," it's more about "how we play the game"
There's been many points to why we should or shouldn't try to "move" the cue ball off line slightly using deflection "Touch" of Inside (or spinning with TOO). For me it was the conclusion many years ago that pool (and Life) was full of opposing forces. Putting "left" on the cue ball puts "right" on the object ball, low in the cue ball puts high on the object ball, and hitting the left side of the object ball moves the OB right......these aren't "far out" factors and relatively simple to learn and understand.
The one factor that sky rocketed my game is when I "real eyesed" that when I hit the cue ball to the right, it made the object ball go right too....and the more I hit it to the right, the more the object ball would move to the right (and obviously the same thing happened on the left too).
When I'm teaching the TOI system I relate it to driving a car. We can relax and enjoy the experience if the car turns right when we turn the steering wheel right, HOWEVER, if one day the car moves right when we turn the steering wheel left it will immediately make us uncertain, fearful and we will be gripping that steering wheel in a "death grip".
Trying to hit the center every time is similar because we can't do it consistently, especially on the more challenging shots. It's VERY important to know which way the cue ball is moving and the way to do this is to favor a side of the cue ball, so if we miss the cue ball target slightly, it either goes straight or slightly more in the direction we're playing it.
To play a game like pool at your highest level your mind, body and the cue ball must be in sync., like in the above example with the car's steering wheel. When steering the car if we turn right and it goes slightly further right, this is not a big deal......it's only when we think we're turning right and we go left that is confusing and we must avoid however possible....to have "peace of mind" and free ourselves to be the best we can be. 'The Game{and the Cue Ball}is the Teacher'
There's been many points to why we should or shouldn't try to "move" the cue ball off line slightly using deflection "Touch" of Inside (or spinning with TOO). For me it was the conclusion many years ago that pool (and Life) was full of opposing forces. Putting "left" on the cue ball puts "right" on the object ball, low in the cue ball puts high on the object ball, and hitting the left side of the object ball moves the OB right......these aren't "far out" factors and relatively simple to learn and understand.
The one factor that sky rocketed my game is when I "real eyesed" that when I hit the cue ball to the right, it made the object ball go right too....and the more I hit it to the right, the more the object ball would move to the right (and obviously the same thing happened on the left too).
When I'm teaching the TOI system I relate it to driving a car. We can relax and enjoy the experience if the car turns right when we turn the steering wheel right, HOWEVER, if one day the car moves right when we turn the steering wheel left it will immediately make us uncertain, fearful and we will be gripping that steering wheel in a "death grip".
Trying to hit the center every time is similar because we can't do it consistently, especially on the more challenging shots. It's VERY important to know which way the cue ball is moving and the way to do this is to favor a side of the cue ball, so if we miss the cue ball target slightly, it either goes straight or slightly more in the direction we're playing it.
To play a game like pool at your highest level your mind, body and the cue ball must be in sync., like in the above example with the car's steering wheel. When steering the car if we turn right and it goes slightly further right, this is not a big deal......it's only when we think we're turning right and we go left that is confusing and we must avoid however possible....to have "peace of mind" and free ourselves to be the best we can be. 'The Game{and the Cue Ball}is the Teacher'
Using inside to pocket balls may have been around before, but what you're describing is just a way of aiming. CJ's TOI incorporates aiming, spin control, position play and banking in a way that I don't believe anyone has done before.
Hay Rick is back, congrats. you are right.
Yeah, I'm back but a couple are already trying to bait me.
What convinced you? PM if you wish.
Regards & Best Wishes,
Rick
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Not trying to be difficult, but what if I am turning my car to the right, and it goes straight???