Ouch. I know it happens, I just didn't think it happens to other people!
Back in maybe '85, I was going down the carpeted stairs at home. Well, I was just being lazy and a kid, so I just kinda slid my feet from one step to the next. On one step, I didn't flip my foot forward fast enough and landed with all of my weight on my big toenail. The only thing I could think of was the Valdeez as the blood began to rush forth like nothing I've ever seen. I had to have a hole drilled into my toenail to release the pressure. It was pretty weird to watch it grow out.
I recently bought a beginner's good knife($50 or so). Already nicked myself with it the other night and it was just lying on the cutting board. I should probably get Aflac. They wouldn't know what hit 'em.
Now I understand why Lou is a top PR person. All of his sources are anonymous.
Quotes from Lou "I got plenty of intell from other guys in LA" "Guys are reading this thread and pming and emailing me" "everyone in LA knows Wayne is a lock artist and will never give a fair game. Don't play him."
When I challenged him to name just one instance (from all of his intell, pm's, emails and what everyone in LA knows) where I played a game that was a lock for me, suddenly all of his imaginary sources can not come up with a single example.
The fact that he can make up outrageous lies to try to knock someone, and assign it to his anonymous sources, tells a lot about this person.
Wayne
Don't you guys understand the simple laws of communication. Anything that is reported to have come from anonymous sources or sources which cannot be named is presumed to be valid. That's how it works in the PR world dontcha know.
It goes like this, make an accusation that you claim is based on something someone told you, sit back and watch the action unfold while the accused has to jump though hoops defending AGAINST that accusation.
In today's world a man is presumed GUILTY until proven innocent. Make a statement based on "anonymous" sources and you can't ever be held accountable for those statements....everyone knows you can't out your "source" under any circumstances.
We have no basis for a civilized discussion if you call everything I say is a lie:
Quote Wayne
"You are still lying although you are changing your lies so they are not as blatant as the previous ones. Slight improvement. Wayne"
I lived in Washington, DC for six years, working with the national press corps on a daily basis. And if you don't think anonymous sources (who, BTW, are guys you know and whom I would *never* give up) can't be legit, you are truly living in LA LA Land. Anonymous sources are a valid source of information and can bring down presidents. Always have, always will.
It's too bad your ego is so vast and so pathetic that you can't entertain someone thinking you're a lock artist or will not give up a fair game. Maybe you're just not as much fun as you think you are, Wayne ;-)
Lou Figueroa
I would have probably said, "Tails."
Lou Figueroa
Earth to Lou, you are not bringing down any presidents with your imaginary anonymous sources. Still waiting for a single example of me trying to get a game where I was a lock. It is too bad your ego will not let you admit that you told a whopper and then you tried to cover it up by assigning it to your imaginary sources.
I know you were lying, you know you were lying, people who know me know you were lying, people reading this thread know you were lying. Even your imaginary sources are probably pming and emailing and calling you telling you that you are lying.
Wayne
Post # 295. Wow.
Funny thing is, if ya'll just got on a table together (I know, I know), you might be brothers in arms. I think some of us are better people with a cue than a keyboard at times. This to me, is beyond petty and no one is gaining. JMO. I just hate to see this animosity.
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Sorry, Wayne but you need to continue to work on that extrapolation thing we talked about. I'm not looking up anything on you. Guys are reading this thread and PMing and emailing me. What they are saying would not give you "a warm fuzzy feeling."
Lou Figueroa
Post # 295. Wow.
Funny thing is, if ya'll just got on a table together (I know, I know), you might be brothers in arms. I think some of us are better people with a cue than a keyboard at times. This to me, is beyond petty and no one is gaining. JMO. I just hate to see this animosity.
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Its petty unless it happens to you. No one comes into our neighborhood, our room, with our friends, our players and denigrates them without response. I gave you a list of rooms in LA you would not dare to do it to. Koreatown, East LA , etc. What makes you think we are less relentless. That is why we get respect in LA. We welcome you wholeheartedly. We work to build a good rep and when someone makes specious and spurious (read lies) about you Its not petty.
Claims especially made safely behind a laptop. Come into our room and say that to our face and see what happens. Say we are "scared to death to play". Say we "want to make a call and send in Richie or Wayne but no one else will play". Then tell lies about our guys. See what kind of balls you got then. At least Pilot guy had the guts and amiability to apologize and try to get along with us. (Post#30 "Im sorry for bashing your room.") He at least manned up.
Scores of real players and champions have come into our room from all over the world and gotten games. We work really hard to make this a place welcoming for everyone from beginner to expert. When some little termite comes in to destroy that we call in the exterminators. It aint petty. Its our house.
Kool Kat I understand what you say. There is no need for animosity. But there is only one way to deal with Bullies and Liars. And that is to expose themselves to who they are. Even if they refuse to see it themselves.
^^^^^ The infamous "I spoke to someone, who I won't name, who said _____ which proves my point on _____" maneuver.
I hope you do write a book - but it should be called "How to Get Asked (or DEMANDED) Outside"
Hey Spider. People who write books don't talk about writing them or how good they write. They just write them.
(yawn) You have said everything I say is a lie.
And then you denied saying that, when it's what you had just written a few posts before. We have no basis for a civilized discussion. So here's something to get you started...
Lou Figueroa
I never said you lied about everything. Wayne
I would like to clear up a few points.
1. I was the one that said everyone was scared to death. This was an Exaggeration and only half true. But It has its bases of truth.
2. HOB is one of the finest rooms in the country and I understand everyone defending the room.
3. I have played Lou several times and he is a stand up, honest guy and a Gentlemen to play. Sure he has his Opinions as we all do. Practicing on the back table must me some form ducking.
4. Wayne, next time I'm in town I'll let you know ahead of time. You were in action one of the times I was there.
Jim