JOHNNY ARCHER apologizes for text to Mike Dechaine

Primo said:
Well I don't know if mike was deserving of a slap or not? The issue seemed to be between johnny and mike. She let Johnny handle it, was mike deserving of that text, maybe/maybe not, i dunno?
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My point was in reference to your question to Jen.

Have you ever heard the phrase 'and the two shall become one'?

Like Bruce said, what Mike said to Melanie is the focal point of the whole sorted scenario. In the old days if someone made insulting remarks to a woman about her man, she slapped their face, man or woman.

Maybe Melanie should have slapped Mike's face & maybe Jen should slap Johnny's face.

But...we live in different times.

Best,
Rick
 
JAM said:
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You were called out on your multiple identities. The names of each of your forum identities were provided in a thread. I could provide them in this thread, but it's not worth my time to go search for them right now.

I would just like to know why. :)
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I would also like to know why...stinks-a-troll.
 
JAM said:
One thing for sure, I'm not going to engage in a back-and-forth with you on this thread like you try to do with other forum members.

You were called out on your multiple identities. The names of each of your forum identities were provided in a thread. I could provide them in this thread, but it's not worth my time to go search for them right now.

I would just like to know why. :)
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Cuz he keeps getting banned, Jen. That's why he always reappears with a new user name.

Champ was the longest running one, inf my memory serves...
 
Text messages

The former Mayor of Detroit, Kwame Kilpatrick and his Chief of Staff, Christine Beatty would love to have had text messages NOT be made public.

The poor guy thought they were private and no one could ever see them.
 
ENGLISH! said:
My point was in reference to your question to Jen.

Have you ever heard the phrase 'and the two shall become one'?

Like Bruce said, what Mike said to Melanie is the focal point of the whole sorted scenario. In the old days if someone made insulting remarks to a woman about her man, she slapped their face, man or woman.

Maybe Melanie should have slapped Mike's face & maybe Jen should slap Johnny's face.

But...we live in different times.

Best,
Rick
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Primo,

The above should be your answer.
 
Mainplayer said:
Johnny and people on AZ, things were said to his wife that were (in his eyes) out of line. I TOLD HER MY THOUGHTS ABOUT THE ABP AT LAST YEARS MOSCONI CUP!!!! LMAO. But, he is going to tell you that I told his wife, how could you marry that man. HAHA. First off, I would never say that, they have beautiful children together and I am sure they are both as happy as can be, and second, that would have came out a long time ago. BTW, yesterday was the first time I heard of this insult.

As far as this little beef. Yesterday, those texts were put up here for a reason. Believe it or not, I admire what Johnny is trying to do with pool but I think some different approaches shouldn't have been made. This is why its all happening, because I voice MY OPINION as a professional player. Its pretty incredible to get messages like that because you just don't agree with something. Johnny also thinks that I wrote that starting thread in "You Johnny Lovers". Nope, not me but that was his response for something he assumed.

So Johnny, this is the first post I've made since 6-12-2013 and I would like it to be the last one on this topic. Your welcome to call me anytime. I believe if something like this is carried on, its not going to look good FOR POOL.

MD
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Johnny would have us believe that Mike said something to his wife that was inappropriate. Clearly, from this response, that did not happen. It would appear that in talking to Johnny’s wife he shared his opinion about the APB. The nuance is quite different. Mike’s clarification makes the most sense to me and that made me think that JA’s approach to reacting to criticism is to deflect attention from the real discussion.

Hmmmm, you are not happy with the opinion of MD in respect of the APB so you wax indignantly about him talking about it to your wife instead of discussion the concerns that Mike has with the APB.

Now I can understand the whole JA comes on the forum and posts a “Message from Johnny Archer” thing. Some might say that it was a a thinly disguised “someone picked on me in a “You Johnny lovers” post and I’m going to say that they insulted me and all real pool lovers. However some of us thought that he was sincere in saying he would answer questions not covered by confidentiality agreements. Clearly he was not.

His response to the mild criticism for not coming back to provide answers (mixed in with the adulation he was hoping for) was to get into this whole MD did me and my family wrong thing. It certainly has deflected attention from the fact that he has not responded to any, even the most innocuous, of questions.

I’ve caught MD’s act at tournaments, exuberant and highly competitive as a player and (mostly) approachable and fan friendly as a professional interacting with fans.

Johnny, you invited questions, you promised answers within the parameters that you set. It is time for some answers.
 
Rick, it appears that Mike didn't say anything disparaging to or about Melanie. It appears that he was expressing his opinion about the ABP, which she relayed to her husband.

If this is remotely accurate, Melanie would have no reason to slap Mike.

As for the rest of it, I'm just shaking my head. It's sad, really.
 
Primo said:
I have exchanged pm's with wilson about this banning issue that the same 3 people continually bring up anytime I post an opinion. yet I am still here?
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At some point, you'll get wound up in some thread and you'll do what you always do.

You joined in June of this year, but seem to know an awful lot about people on this forum.

It's no issue with me, I usually enjoy your banter. I was answering JAM as to why you have had so many screen names, is all.
 
justadub said:
Rick, it appears that Mike didn't say anything disparaging to or about Melanie. It appears that he was expressing his opinion about the ABP, which she relayed to her husband.

If this is remotely accurate, Melanie would have no reason to slap Mike.

As for the rest of it, I'm just shaking my head. It's sad, really.
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Bruce,

Due to Johnny's position with ABP, it would depend on how & what Mike said to Melanie.

A no good cheating playground coach that was also a part time supervisor with my wife once made some remarks about my wife & they had to hold me back while this guy had to leave.

He did not say anything that would stand up in court, but the implication was there.

I hope you see my point.

But we don't know what was said, except that it was enough to set Johnny off. So all of this is just speculation.

Bruce, what do you do for a living? Are you a marriage counselor?:wink:

All the Best to You & Your Family,
Rick
 
ENGLISH! said:
Bruce,

Due to Johnny's position with ABP, it would depend on how & what Mike said to Melanie.

A no good cheating playground coach that was also a part time supervisor with my wife once made some remarks about my wife & they had to hold me back while this guy had to leave.

He did not say anything that would stand up in court, but the implication was there.

I hope you see my point.

But we don't know what was said, except that it was enough to set Johnny off. So all of this is just speculation.

Bruce, what do you do for a living? Are you a marriage counselor?:wink:

All the Best to You & Your Family,
Rick
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Uh, nope.

I would be a poor choice for that profession. :p
 
Is Mike saying this is all about something he said at last year Mosconi Cup?

How old are those phone texts?
 
Primo said:
All I am doing is sharing another view to the discussion and not making it so one sided. I defend my position but others don't want to back up their position and keep making these into personal pissing matches. high school stuff over and over on here lol I get a little pissed off after being insult 10 times in a row and then when I give it back, I seem to get in trouble for some reason lol
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but you only ever seem to have one 'position' and that is being contrary to JAM.

have l missed the others?

best,
brian kc
 
JAM said:
Keith wants to post on this forum about it, but you and I both know that if and when he does, the trolls come out and say it's me posting, so he doesn't even get to respond to the allegations Johnny made about him while Johnny was inebriated.
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Oh good Lord, just let Keith out to play...
 
if I had a chance to tell Melanie Archer how I felt about APB, I def would, too.

thank goodness johnny doesn't have my cell #. :rolleyes:

best,
brian <--- thinks everyone has a bad day, many have a bad week or two, some a bad month, a few are perpetual...
 
Primo said:
Im curious, if you think this is out of character for Johnny and you think he may have some personal issues going on. Why would you make these posts in the first place and why are you digging for data and why doesnt keith handle this situation himself?

When I wake up in the morning I always put on my big boy pants all by myself!
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If it's out of character, that doesn't give anyone a free pass to say things about other people.

Are you suggesting that since she knows it's out of character, that it shouldn't be discussed and all should be forgiven?

People having personal issues are still responsible for their actions IMO.
 
ENGLISH! said:
Perhaps this whole Johnny - Mike thing would be over if Melanie would have just slapped Mike. (I guess I should have been born in a different age.)
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I generally resist the urge to reply to or quote you but I have to ask how in the world you came to this conclusion. If someone's wife talks TO ME about something her husband is doing I can say what I think about it. It doesn't matter if I agree with her or not.

If, and it's a guess not a fact, Mike had said, "Hey your husband is an idiot" then I could see Melanie getting mad. But who knows what was said? Everyone recounts from their own point of view. Big deal, they disagreed, no need to get violent.

Stop obsessing over slap fights.
 
Hey Jack...I've gotten drunk and had to apologize a million times. Maybe JA will issue an alology. Take it to the source is all I'm sayin. 👍
 
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