SVB Get's Bad Rap Not Winning Worlds

I really don't get the idea that years from now, no one will be able to know of Shane's accomplishments. Is the internet going away? Will there be less access to history in the future? I don't think so. The point about no world titles maybe valid but Shane, more than likely, will have plenty of chances to add one of those.

Arnold Palmer never did win the PGA, and he will always be the King.
 
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real bartram said:
You can't put cooney and Svb together they are about 5 balls apart
Last time I looked Svb has won a lot of tourneys
Just ask all players who they would not want to play I bet Svb comes up a lot
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You never saw Jack play One Pocket in his prime, and he was triple smart too. A young Jack Cooney would have got the money from Shane, some way! If you made a game with Jack for big money you were in trouble! And that's the bottom line, isn't it Chris?

More players say Dennis then Shane. Of course no one has to like it on that TAR table. That's like Shane's home court. Look, I love Shane's game but is he unbeatable, no way. In Manila, he is in no hurry to play Francisco (who has beaten him multiple times), Lee Vann, Alex or Dennis. He picks his spots just like you do. I've seen Shane turn down games, THIS YEAR!
 
jay helfert said:
You never saw Jack play One Pocket in his prime, and he was triple smart too. A young Jack Cooney would have got the money from Shane, some way! If you made a game with Jack for big money you were in trouble! And that's the bottom line, isn't it Chris?

More players say Dennis then Shane. Of course no one has to like it on that TAR table. That's like Shane's home court. Look, I love Shane's game but is he unbeatable, no way. In Manila, he is in no hurry to play Francisco (who has beaten him multiple times), Lee Vann, Alex or Dennis. He picks his spots just like you do. I've seen Shane turn down games, THIS YEAR!
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Svb would rob jack playing any game get real
Anytime anyone plays Svb ill bet on him
 
real bartram said:
Some people don't get it
Like it or not he is the best player right now tourney or gambling
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That may be true but he has to prove it on the world stage, not in his own back yard. If Shane truly was the best player in the world, he would have won one of these major International tournaments by now. Of course, imo he is still improving and may just be reaching his peak now.

To be a world champion you must have a single mindedness of purpose, with no outside distractions. This may have been Shane's downfall in the past. As for me, I'd love to see Shane win a big one like this. It would affirm his place among pool's elite players. Plus I REALLY like the kid! :clapping:
 
real bartram said:
Svb would rob jack playing any game get real
Anytime anyone plays Svb ill bet on him
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I was talking about Jack in his prime, 20-30 years ago. I guess you missed my point. Jack knew how to get the money and someone like you should appreciate that fact. Jack was making six figure scores 40 years ago when everyone else was playing $2-500 sets! HELLO!
 
jay helfert said:
That may be true but he has to prove it on the world stage, not in his own back yard. If Shane truly was the best player in the world, he would have won one of these major International tournaments by now. Of course, imo he is still improving and may just be reaching his peak now.

To be a world champion you must have a single mindedness of purpose, with no outside distractions. This may have been Shane's downfall in the past. As for me, I'd love to see Shane win a big one like this. It would affirm his place among pool's elite players. Plus I REALLY like the kid! :clapping:
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For me his tourney record speaks for it self
I would like to see another great player play him a long set of 10 ball
After what he did to orcollo not sure anyone will want to try him
 
real bartram said:
For me his tourney record speaks for it self
I would like to see another great player play him a long set of 10 ball
After what he did to orcollo not sure anyone will want to try him
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Tell you what, if Shane plays Dennis again in Manila, we have a bet. An automatic $500 bet if they play over there. Bet?
 
real bartram said:
No but if they play in the USA you can have this bet
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Ha! Ha! Made you stutter. But I'm a gambling man so if they match up over here and it's not a TAR match you have a bet. See, I'm easy. :)
What I really would like to see is these two guys play Rotation. Then you will really find out who plays the best. That could be a TAR match.

P.S. And I've still got the five ball right? In 9-Ball. And I'm the same age as the ancient Mr. Cooney, so you should be stealing!
 
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You 2 gamblers, one of you go take my bet on the world 9 ball event. It's posted in the action room. Event starts in 45 minutes.

I want 4 players, you can have the other 28 players, which includes DAZ and SVB
 
jay helfert said:
Ha! Ha! Made you stutter. But I'm a gambling man so if they match up over here and it's not a TAR match you have a bet. See, I'm easy. :)

P.S. And I've still got the five ball right? In 9-Ball.
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You have always had the 5 ball
For our bet all we have to do is let the other guy know that they are playing
All I need to know is that they are playing before they play and it's a bet
When do you want the 5 ball
And what's the bet
 
JumpinJoe said:
You 2 gamblers, one of you go take my bet on the world 9 ball event. It's posted in the action room. Event starts in 45 minutes.

I want 4 players, you can have the other 28 players, which includes DAZ and SVB
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I don't have PayPal and don't even know who's in the tourney ill pass
 
real bartram said:
You have always had the 5 ball
For our bet all we have to do is let the other guy know that they are playing
All I need to know is that they are playing before they play and it's a bet
When do you want the 5 ball
And what's the bet
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We WILL play this game! Sorry but the last couple of times I saw you I was either working or sick (getting old is a biitch if you haven't heard already :wink:). Just like we said before, Ten Ahead for $500, a hustlers game of pool. I just don't feel comfortable betting any higher since I never play much any more, maybe once or twice a year do I play for money and it's usually 40 or 50 a game One Pocket. I haven't played 9-Ball for money in at least 20 years!!! (Caveat - I did play a 9-Ball match in Manila for 2,000P ($50) about three weeks ago).

P.S. We've got a deal on Shane vs. Dennis if it happens. Ten Ball or One Pocket, either way. If they play we are betting $500, it's that simple. If they match up to play Rotation on TAR you also have a bet.
 
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no matter who you're playing you have to play well to win

Johnnyt said:
Shane gets a bad rap for not being able to win a world title like so many other Americans did. When was the last time an American won a real world title out of the country? When those other Americans did it the U.S had most of the top players in the world. Today monsters are coming out of the woodwork from China, PI, Taiwan, Japan, and everywhere else. It's not the same playing field. Johnnyt
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You still have to beat the same amount of players and if you look at who Earl beat to win they would stack up....no matter who you're playing you have to play well to win, and races to 9.....well, that's going to take some luck too. On our PCA Tour we played a race to 15 and 11 in the TV matches.....TV matches have a LOT more pressure, so the shorter races are exciting and one miss could cost you the match.
 
jay helfert said:
We WILL play this game! Sorry but the last couple of times I saw you I was either working or sick (getting old is a biitch if you haven't heard already :wink:). Just like we said before, Ten Ahead for $500, a hustlers game of pool. I just don't feel comfortable betting any higher since I never play much any more, maybe once or twice a year do I play for money and it's usually 40 or 50 a game One Pocket. I haven't played 9-Ball for money in at least 20 years!!!
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Sounds good
Good luck to me
 
How about this compromise...

Shane is the best in the world while playing anyone in the world, on US soil.
 
real bartram said:
Sounds good
Good luck to me
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Good luck to you too my friend. By the way I like your style of no nonsense gambling. You put up your money and get down on the table and play. You are a sportsman too, no sharking or BS when you play. I like playing a guy like you. If a guy is an asshole I won't play him, even if I have the nuts. I don't need the aggravation to win a few bucks. At this stage of my life I play for the game, not the money.
 
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