Dechaine quits out of turn!

Look guys, I'm not trying to bash Mike and frankly I only caught the last 30 minutes of that match and didn't see the Corey, food ordering incident. Furthermore, I was unaware that touching the cue ball was a 15 point foul which, is also a very good point indeed...

The point which I was really trying to make is that technically, a concession can only be made during a player's turn. Not before, or after. A concession cannot be legally accepted by a tournament director or an opponent until it is that person's turn at the table and they physically motion or indicate that they concede the match or game.

I know it sounds nitpicky, but these are rules that have been established for many years. If you've ever watched a snooker match and the player is in the middle of a run and yet has clearly won the frame, you NEVER see the other player get up and say, 'Okay, you win!'

The opponent cannot technically forfeit until the inning is over and it is his turn at the table.

I feel it's important to understand this because this is an integral part of sportsmanship.

Not that the food thing had any merit either.
 
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The opponent cannot technically forfeit until the inning is over and it is his turn at the table.

I feel it's important to understand this because this is an integral part of sportsmanship.

Not that the food thing had any merit either.

I did not think there was actually a rule about when you can forfeit. For example, if you unscrew your cue during your opponents turn, it's counted as a forfeit, which took place in the middle of the opponent's inning.

I have often conceded the last ball to someone if it was easy (9 or 10 ball here), or even if it was semi-easy but they had a good run out to get to it or a good position shot or something. If I respect the player and we have a good match going I would not want to see someone miss a game winner.

In fact, several times I have people concede the game winner to me when I felt iffy about making it. Took a load of my mind let me tell you hehe.
 
Wall of text is bad.

Mike deserves all this shit storm.

Straight pool is sweet guys.





<----- fvckin love me some haiku
 
Unscrewing your cue, which can be construed as a forfeit actually isn't.

If this were a rule, Jose Parica would have been forfeited from 100's of events. He's very well known for using as many as 3-4 shafts during a match sometimes.
 
So, I just watched Mike Dechaine miss a shot against Corey Deuel and then he immediately quit with Corey still needing 9 Balls.

The score was 116 each going to 125 at the MD Straight Pool Championships.

Both players were seemingly falling apart at the last minute but the issue here is that I don't think Mike should really be allowed to quit unless it's his turn at the table.

Technically, shouldn't Corey should have to come to the table and be forced to close out the match?

Corey needed 9 balls with actually only 6 open balls at the table, which means Mike still had a chance.

Silly, if you ask me.
shows the kind of heart he has.
 
I know it sounds nitpicky, but these are rules that have been established for many years. If you've ever watched a snooker match and the player is in the middle of a run and yet has clearly won the frame, you NEVER see the other player get up and say, 'Okay, you win!'

Really?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs...bizarre-final-frame-concession-143421711.html

Drago conceded the match after a missed shot, just like Mike did, only in his case he tried to retract the concession and McManus refused to accept the retraction. Of course, Drago then proceeded to beat the shit out of his own head. At least Dechaine didn't do that. ;)
 
Well, if I'm wrong I apologize. It's great that these forums exist to keep each other in check.
 
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Really?

http://uk.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs...bizarre-final-frame-concession-143421711.html

Drago conceded the match after a missed shot, just like Mike did, only in his case he tried to retract the concession and McManus refused to accept the retraction. Of course, Drago then proceeded to beat the shit out of his own head. At least Dechaine didn't do that. ;)

In snooker, it's considered bad form to concede a match when it is not
your turn at the table.....pros have been warned or even fined for it.

I think not conceding anything also makes sense in any tournament..
...especially if there is side action or a calcutta....'cause you're conceding
someone else's money also.
 
Well, if I'm wrong I apologize. It's great that these forums exist to keep each other in check.

Well, now, no need to apologize, Daniel. I'm pretty sure you know tons more about pool than I do.;)

Does this let Mike off the hook, though? I really didn't see this as a disrespectful move. However, what Orcullo did to Eberle (and all us fans) at DDC was unforgivable IMHO. Extremely disrespectful to the game IMO.
 
In snooker, it's considered bad form to concede a match when it is not
your turn at the table.....pros have been warned or even fined for it.

I think not conceding anything also makes sense in any tournament..
...especially if there is side action or a calcutta....'cause you're conceding
someone else's money also.

I see your point, but champions quit in the chair all the time. What are we do do about that? I've seen Earl do it in pool on several occasions, and even a ferocious tiger like Roberto Duran seemed to know when it was time to say, "No mas."
 
:scratchhead:



Hmmm...well maybe the sharking move worked when Cory ordered food when Mike was up and running on him in the middle of the match?

Who orders food in the middle of a match?



This came from Mike------->


This is getting pretty tough. I'm up 70-80 something to 12 on a good run. The guy orders food in the middle of my run. Really?!?!

Mike has done that at a joss tour! They all do that!
 
geez. It is just not a big deal.

I loath conceding. But sometimes, depending on the circumstances -- how you're playing, how the other guy is playing, how the match has gone -- you just throw the towel in. It is not a question of heart or sportsmanship or whatever.

Lou Figueroa
 
Two guys matched up at the poolhall,

they can quit anytime they want.

Two guys matched up for a promoter,

have obligations !!!

Besides I have seen more than enough of MD.

I just cannot bring myself like him.

imo you won't be talking about him for ever.

He will be a forgotten player.

Very well said sir! I too don't like mike, but you hit the nail in the head with first 2 sentences! Tap tap tap
 
Well it is certainly bad sportsmanship to quit on the tv table, it was in bad taste. As I suppose it was for Cory to smash his cue into the rail.

But aside from all that....... what's the penalty for quitting out of turn? :scratchhead:
 
... I don't think Mike should really be allowed to quit unless it's his turn at the table. ...
The rule at snooker is:

5. Conceding
(a) A player may only concede when he is the striker. The opponent has the right to accept or refuse the concession, which becomes null and void if the opponent chooses to play on​

That is snooker. There is no such "only when it's your turn" rule at pool.
 
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