Agreed....
NO Match for Harriman/Schmidt
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Agreed....
If the players are under contract how did jayson shaw play a TAR event just a couple weeks ago?
I made the above post after reading the thread title and first couple paragraphs of the OP. Not gonna lie I was kinda hot.
I see now that Str8 shots doesn't want to do the match. They also don't want anyone else to do it. I don't know if that is more annoying than someone trying to jack it.
Maybe I'll try again next year when Str8 shots is gone.
and that is just plain dumb on their part, period. How in the world can a highly viewed ppv telecast that members of the pool world community will be watching that has a player sponsored by str8 shots wearing their patches/gear/etc...be a bad marketing move on their part?
Even simple minded people can grasp that concept and unless they've done ZERO research or have absolutely no advertising or marketing acumen, then there is an alterior motive because it just makes no sense to piss a huge cross section of your target audience off AND forego a lot of free exposure.
They are trying to promote a youth pool movement, and they don't want their name to be associated with that kind of pool match, by one of their sponsored players.
For better or for worse, that's the way I think they are looking at this.
Instantly voice negativity? Look at the first word of this thread, in capital letters, "NO". Who started the negativity?
Dont plan on them being gone next year. According to their online records they made a heafty income last year. Way more than what I would expect their online store to bring in.
Makes me wonder just how much these charity events gross and what the net amount or "all proceeds" total are sent to the charities.
well, first, their website is a jumbled up mess. It doesn't mention any kind of youth pool movement in a path that can be easily followed or clicked through. It's very vague to say the least and I can't tell whether they are just a calendar for events, a testimonial site for a few players, or a supply store. Which is it?
After quickly perusing, I'm coming to the realization that they may actually have no clue about advertising, marketing, web analytics, SEO, etc... Which makes the whole stance against the match seem more plausible given it's blatant disregard from a business benefits standpoint.
I hope all the pool entities that are here this year will flourish, be successful, and continue to contribute next year to a financially strapped pool world. Anything to promote pool is a good thing, as far as I'm concerned, no matter from what angle. And for the record, I am an action enthusiast, not a pool purist.
From what I can tell they organize events and send proceeds to charities and bef is one of them. How much they send and how much they keep or psy to the expenses I dont know.
I understand that point of view.
Now if someone can honestly tell me no one involved knew the history between these two this whole mess would make sense.
100% agreement.
I'm sure they are trying to do a lot for the pool world in general and if they can make money as well then more power to them. My issue is that they are shooting themselves in the foot by taking this stance. It just makes no sense unless there is more than meets the eye.
It's not surprising to me that folks that want to see woofing and barking and "action" aren't necessarily going to be all that cooperative with an altruistic view of pool, especially if it prevents said woofing and action.
Again, not agreeing or disagreeing with either stance. Just noting that both sides exist, and will be difficult to "coexist". especially here on AZB, where John and Danny brought woofing to a pretty high level.
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Long history of people coming into pool with big dreams and stirring things up. Then deciding "Oh this isnt what I thought." and going home. Most not because they went broke but because they decided it gets old throwing money down a hole and despite how much they want pool to fit their vision it continues to be what it is.
Steve, so have I, and I continue to do so every single year, but not at the same monetary level of this company. :embarrassed2:
I think Mark Cantrill, who works for Str8 Shots, came on this forum and wanted to garner the opinions of forum members about a match between John and Danny. This is what Mark does in pool, makes things happen. He saw an opportunity, followed through by speaking with the players, never realizing the historical animosity between them. In hindsight, I will bet he wishes he had never had this thought enter his head right about now.
And you don't have your business name associated with one of the participants, all the while your company is trying to promote a youth pool movement.
It would be somewhat hypocritical of them to be trying to promote the game to young people (and their parents, schools and community centers) all the while sponsoring a participant in a match with less-than-family-values sorts of discussion and woofing.
That woofing is good for the sport in its own way, but not necessarily in trying to grow the sport at the youth level.
Just my observation. I was hoping the match would happen.