You can view battle #2 here on TAR PPV and find out first hand, rather than someone's memory (which may be flawed).
http://theactionreport.com/category/ondemand/
NO Match for Harriman/Schmidt
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You can view battle #2 here on TAR PPV and find out first hand, rather than someone's memory (which may be flawed).
http://theactionreport.com/category/ondemand/
i based my point of view based on these following facts.
1. i read the thread mark cantrill started where he announced he was going to work for str8shots.
2. i read kims 1st post on here and subsequent posts from her metioning what straights was and her intentions for her company.
so having some prior knowledge of what str8shots was and who was under their contract i came up with my point of view.
in your post #30 you basically admitted you and everyone else on planet earth have never heard of str8shots until now. with that being said can you explain to me " apparently someone with less than half a brain" how do you know what is in or not in the contract with john and how do you know for a fact she will not pay john.?
Thanks! I'll get on that as soon as I finish the Shane/Alex and Shane/Corey matches I purchased.
I perused their website and read the AzBilliards PRs on the Main Page. Here is one that caught my interest from September 28, 2013: Stra8Shots.com Proudly Sponsors the 2013 BEF Academic All-American Award.
It may not seem like a lot of money to some, but I think it's a great start for this new entrant into the pool industry.
Sponsoring aspiring pros is somethnig we need. In particular, I had Eleanor Callado on my radar a few years ago from a Vegas happening, and lo and behold, here she is getting sponsored today: Eleanor Callado is Newest Member to Team Str8 Shots
Str8 Shots has aligned themselves with others in the industry in an effort to promote pool via charity events: Annual Challenge the Stars Event Raised over $5,000 for the Billiard Education Foundation (BEF).
And then there is this heart-wrenching good deed Stra8 Shot is involved in: Jamaica Joe's, OB Cues, and Str8 Shots Team Together to Help Jaxon Saenz.
I think they are new to the pool scene, and as such, in an effort to stick with their mission, they are selective on what they want to be involved in, to include their sponsored players. If one of the sponsored players is not in agreement with Stra8 Shots' vision for the company, they probably can remove themselves from the sponsorship.
As you said, stevelomako, I, too, am wishing them much success. The pool world could use more people like this.
Exactly. Amazing how so many are so quick to run off at the mouth and condemn others just because they didn't get their little fix. Half of them posting wouldn't have watched it anyways. Let's forget about the hours of phone calls that were made, let's forget about someone else barging in trying to take over what they have stated they never wanted a part of again, let's forget about any actual facts. Just condemn because you didn't get your way. Like a bunch of kids throwing a tantrum. They aren't whats bad for pool. Many of the reactions on here are though.
i agree with you completely.
The podcast the day before the match happened is the most viewed TAR podcast ever.
I think people were interested.
I dont know what Str8 shots is or what they do. I heard they were sponsoring some players by paying entry fees to events. If they have John under contract so be it. I think its weak sauce that another entity wants to come in and capitalize on a rivalry TAR made possible through the production of two previous events. There is a well documented history of TAR trying to get this third match to go so any other explanation is simply smoke and mirrors to cover up the fact they want to cut in on something TAR started.
I'm not really surprised though about the contract thing. I have always thought something like this would come to be eventually. I thought it would be with Bonus Ball but even as vocal as I have been about their missteps they never once pulled the contract card to prohibit one of their players from doing outside events.
Things like this happen every day in other sports. My mistake was trying to run TAR like someone who loves the game and wants to promote the players without controlling them. I have never claimed to be a good businessman and a good businessman would lock guys up. If this is the new landscape then TAR will adapt or get out just like any other business. Lots of others have tried to get into the "Challenge Match" game over the years from the IPT to InsidePool. So far we are still here so I like our chances.
I hold no ill will towards John as he is honoring a commitment he made and I respect that. Same goes for Danny if he decides to play. He has to pay his bills like everyone else and should take the money if he likes the deal. Str8 shots seems to think there is some big windfall to be had with this match. Maybe there is due to the history of the rivalry. The history that would not exist without the two previous productions.
I understand its just business. In the future I will treat it as such.
Thank you to everyone who has spoken up for TAR in this thread. I appreciate your support very much.
I'm not really surprised though about the contract thing. I have always thought something like this would come to be eventually. I thought it would be with Bonus Ball but even as vocal as I have been about their missteps they never once pulled the contract card to prohibit one of their players from doing outside events.
Things like this happen every day in other sports. My mistake was trying to run TAR like someone who loves the game and wants to promote the players without controlling them. I have never claimed to be a good businessman and a good businessman would lock guys up. If this is the new landscape then TAR will adapt or get out just like any other business. Lots of others have tried to get into the "Challenge Match" game over the years from the IPT to InsidePool. So far we are still here so I like our chances.
I hold no ill will towards John as he is honoring a commitment he made and I respect that. Same goes for Danny if he decides to play. He has to pay his bills like everyone else and should take the money if he likes the deal. Str8 shots seems to think there is some big windfall to be had with this match. Maybe there is due to the history of the rivalry. The history that would not exist without the two previous productions.
I understand its just business. In the future I will treat it as such.
Thank you to everyone who has spoken up for TAR in this thread. I appreciate your support very much.
It's BS, it's not as much about the game..... Ifs about a dart dealer stepping over what the fans want to see. And I have seen many tantrums and these are justifiable
this place was very enjoyable to read when i 1st joined. i also have learned a lot from quite a few posters on here.
lately all the negativity has been rather stifling though.
Looks like you are violating your own policy, as this post is horrible for your image.
To this I'll add that a sports company which is fearful of a live match between two of the sport's best competitors and rivals, which is always viewed as a tremendous boost for any sport, may have to reassess their "business plan" and "marketing strategy".
Secondly, if I was either player I can't help feel as though I'd be greatly insulted at Ms Kimberly Griffiths' suggestion that I would be so totally unprofessional and lack such self-control that I would damage my own as well as my sponsor's reputation by my, apparently, ungentlemanly and crass behavior.
There has to be another, deeper, hidden agenda here. Hopefully it will surface.
J
^^^^^^^^^^^^ this right here^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just checked it out and you're right -though I feel anything Efren Reyes on youtube tends to get a lot of hits...not exactly a translation into TAR purchases. I was more alluding to the overwhelming attention on the forum this game is getting compared to Shane Efren pre-match on the forum. I might be wrong...I don't know for sure. I think the only way to know for sure is for there to be a Danny John TAR and for Justin tell us which one got more purchases.
To be fair in your comparison, Efren and Shane weren't here on AZB firing away at each other.
John and Danny have done this forum thing. BIG time. Thus the added interest, or buzz, so far as AZB is concerned.
Well said, and I agree. :smile:
fair assessment justadub and valid point. I am still curious which one would get more purchases though -even if the purchases from the potential Danny John match were inflated from the constant back and forth on the forum, it would still speak to the power of the draw for drama versus watching purely pool.
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When I first read Mark's thread about the possible match-up, I thought the same thing, what's he thinking trying to capitalize and/or undermine what TAR has developed for a lack of a better term. What I find even more baffling is that Mark claims he had little idea of the history between these two players, it was and is well documented.
It's unfortunate the match will not take place, do I respect the decision by Str8 shots, the jury is still out.
Looking forward to the SVB vs Corey match, thanks again for allowing us the pleasure of watching TAR produced events.
Cheers.