Rodney Morris Challenges the Top 25 European Players

CJ Wiley

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Rodney Morris is one of the best money players on the planet in my opinion. He challenged (on Face Book) the top 25 players to bet 20k and play them all back to back.

Could the European's actually have 25 players that would have a chance to win against Rodney Morris? Maybe in tournaments, but playing for money is a whole other matter.

The Philippines may have a couple of players that could compete with Rodney, but I''m not sure they would actually play for 20k a set.
 
We had a similar debate a while back...

It came down to "Euro players are better, but it's not their custom to gamble"

Do I agree with that statement? No
 
:boring2: :boring:.......If Rodney is serious, all he needs to do to go to Europe or the Far East. Without more details, I'm guessing he's issuing his "challenge" based on them coming to him. I've said this a million times, if I've said it once...If you can't find someone who can beat you, you aren't looking hard enough! :eek: :D

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
 
Maybe,...maybe Not.

CJ Wiley said:
Rodney Morris is one of the best money players on the planet in my opinion. He challenged (on Face Book) the top 25 players to bet 20k and play them all back to back.

Could the European's actually have 25 players that would have a chance to win against Rodney Morris? Maybe in tournaments, but playing for money is a whole other matter.

The Philippines may have a couple of players that could compete with Rodney, but I''m not sure they would actually play for 20k a set.
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I had to laugh when I read this. Mostly because there are probably 50 players in Germany alone who gamble at the drop of a hat, and are capable of beating every one of the 25 top European Tournament Players. I have seen the German and European underbelly of the pool scene in the past, and it would be unlikely Morris could win against most of them. Granted, Morris is a great player, and has cut his teeth accordingly, but to show such hubris is a bit much. Perhaps the quality of play is down over there, and he would win against all of them at 20k or even more. But, what I always appreciated about the German "Zockers", was that when the money was up, it came out of their own pocket. No stakehorses to fall back on after day 1. I'd like for him to take $250,000 of his own money, and go to Europe and play 10 players, at $25k, and see if he will clean house as he says he can do. No disrespect to Rodney, but I think his statement is a bit of a stretch.

Carl
 
OK, I came up with the eighteen best Europeans, listed alphabetically, as I see them. Hope I didn't leave anyone out, but coming up with 25 of them was more than I could handle.

David Alcaide
Darren Appleton
Karl Boyes
Niels Feijen
Mark Gray
Thorsten Hohmann
Mika Immonen
Chris Melling
Bruno Muratore
Oliver Ortmann
Nicholas Otterman
Darryl Peach
Huidji See
Jayson Shaw
Ralf Souquet
Nick Van Den Berg

Late additions:

Nick Ekonomopoulos
Fabio Petroni

Darren Appleton, Niels Feijen, Thorsten Hohmann, Mika Immonen and Jayson Shaw would all have a very good shot at taking Rodney down.

Karl Boyes, Nick Ekonomopoulos, David Alcaide, Nick Vandenberg, Ralf Souquet, Chris Melling, Fabio Petroni and Darryl Peach are underdogs with a shot.

Finally, I could only barely imagine Mark Gray, Bruno Muratore, Oliver Ortmann, Nicholas Otterman, or Huidji See beating Roidney in a match of any length.

Playing each of these eighteen for $20,000 would be a winning proposition for Rodney, whose form returned in a big way at the US Open 10-ball event in July, where he went undefeated against the toughest field of the year on American soil.
 
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Rodney is just trying to rile them up for Mosconi Cup...which is a good move. Johnnyt
 
he's actually offering to go to them and play in Europe.

Scott Lee said:
:boring2: :boring:.......If Rodney is serious, all he needs to do to go to Europe or the Far East. Without more details, I'm guessing he's issuing his "challenge" based on them coming to him. I've said this a million times, if I've said it once...If you can't find someone who can beat you, you aren't looking hard enough! :eek: :D

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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He said he would go to London and play on a neutral table....so no, he's not asking them to come to him....he's actually offering to go to them and play in Europe.

Races to 30 for 20k a set is what I heard through the "grapevine"...I'm sure that's close.
 
poker has proven that strategic games are popular.

sjm said:
OK, I came up with the sixteen best Europeans, listed alphabetically, as I see them. Hope I didn't leave anyone out, but coming up with 25 of them was more than I could handle.

David Alcaide
Darren Appleton
Karl Boyes
Niels Feijen
Mark Gray
Thorsten Hohmann
Mika Immonen
Chris Melling
Bruno Muratore
Oliver Ortmann
Nicholas Otterman
Darryl Peach
Huidji See
Jayson Shaw
Ralf Souquet
Nick Van Den Berg

Darren Appleton, Niels Feijen, Thorsten Hohmann, Mika Immonen and Jayson Shaw would all have a very good shot at taking Rodney down.

Karl Boyes, David Alcaide, Nick Vandenberg, Ralf Souquet, Chris Melling and Darryl Peach are underdogs with a shot.

Finally, I could only barely imagine Mark Gray, Bruno Muratore, Oliver Ortmann, Nicholas Otterman, or Huidji See beating Roidney in a match of any length.

Playing each of these sixteen for $20,000 would be a winning proposition for Rodney, whose form returned in a big way at the US Open 10-ball event in July, where he went undefeated against the toughest field of the year on American soil.
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Maybe they have a chance in tournaments, but we are talking about gambling and for some reason a lot of those players refuse to gamble. I've always wondered why, maybe it's religious beliefs or something like that. In this day and age I can see not gambling as high as we used to because there's little chance to get it back if you lose (from another game/player).

It would be cool to see some more action these days, I'm just not sure if that's possible or not. I believe bringing 'Two Shot Shoot Out' will create more gambling because it's more of a strategic game......and poker has proven that strategic games are popular.
 
Stu...As cajunfats mentioned, overseas, just as here in the US, there are TONS of very skilled players who gamble, that aren't known on the tournament "circuit" I know Rodney mentioned "top 25", but gamblers for that kind of cheese come out of woodwork. I'm sure he wouldn't turn down anybody who wanted to gamble high like that...if he's serious about his "challenge". The Filapinos would eat him for lunch...imo! LOL

Scott Lee
poolknowledge.com

sjm said:
OK, I came up with the sixteen best Europeans, listed alphabetically, as I see them. Hope I didn't leave anyone out, but coming up with 25 of them was more than I could handle.

David Alcaide
Darren Appleton
Karl Boyes
Niels Feijen
Mark Gray
Thorsten Hohmann
Mika Immonen
Chris Melling
Bruno Muratore
Oliver Ortmann
Nicholas Otterman
Darryl Peach
Huidji See
Jayson Shaw
Ralf Souquet
Nick Van Den Berg

Darren Appleton, Niels Feijen, Thorsten Hohmann, Mika Immonen and Jayson Shaw would all have a very good shot at taking Rodney down.

Karl Boyes, David Alcaide, Nick Vandenberg, Ralf Souquet, Chris Melling and Darryl Peach are underdogs with a shot.

Finally, I could only barely imagine Mark Gray, Bruno Muratore, Oliver Ortmann, Nicholas Otterman, or Huidji See beating Roidney in a match of any length.

Playing each of these sixteen for $20,000 would be a winning proposition for Rodney, whose form returned in a big way at the US Open 10-ball event in July, where he went undefeated against the toughest field of the year on American soil.
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He wants to bet 25k, wait 250k.

Lmfao. What a douchebag.

This is the same guy that got STAKED into a $500 entry tourney just a couple months ago and CRIED the blues about a $50 late fee. And is part of getting events in America terminated as of late.

Very funny this is.
 
appleton would eat him for money, so to most of the other top draw europeans.

morris is all bravado, dont rate him myself...
 
Religious beliefs, I doubt it. Maybe gambling isn't ingrained into Old World pool tradition as much as it is in the USA.

A few countries in Europe, Carp gonad soup is a delicacy. Doesn't mean that everyone in the world should eat it too.

All the Carp that I catch, I toss over to the Filipinos and Chinese guys. They go all hay wire for them.
 
The break rules have changed this year for the mosconi cup.

paz said:
appleton would eat him for money, so to most of the other top draw europeans.

morris is all bravado, dont rate him myself...
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Rodney's beat every top player for money that he's played in the last few years. I seriously doubt if Appleton would play him for money......I'm sure he knows about the challenge and hasn't responded.

It's just cool to see someone actually make a serous challenge like this these days. He's from the "old school' and frustrated that no one gambles here in the US much anymore. This also comes from people saying Europe could make 5 Mosconi Cup teams that could compete with the USA this year and that's just craziness.

THE BREAK RULES HAVE CHANGED THIS YEAR FOR THE MOSCONI CUP....here' what Johnny Archer says about what's going on this year:

Johnny Archer
October 21 via mobile
The oddsmakers have come out with the line on The Mosconi Cup. They have Europe a 7-4 favorite. I don't think Europe is favored. Especially with the new break rule this year. We will be using a 4 inch wide break box in the center of the table and the 9 will be racked on the spot. We will have a gentleman's agreement to break the balls head on. I dont think we are underdogs. DO YOU???
 
so is it only working out if he finds 25 players? Rodney would be breakfast for Darren, however if he would play 25 guys he would have a good chance to win 13+ matches.
BTW I'm challenging the best 1000000 players in the US and play them all back to back for 10k. I will start with the lowest ranked players and work my way up. Any takers?
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
Religious beliefs, I doubt it. Maybe gambling isn't ingrained into Old World pool tradition as much as it is in the USA.

A few countries in Europe, Carp gonad soup is a delicacy. Doesn't mean that everyone in the world should eat it too.

All the Carp that I catch, I toss over to the Filipinos and Chinese guys. They go all hay wire for them.
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Haha! My dad always says, "Carp......., two reversed letters away from being Crap!, throw it back!" :D
 
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CJ Wiley said:
Maybe they have a chance in tournaments, but we are talking about gambling and for some reason a lot of those players refuse to gamble. I've always wondered why, maybe it's religious beliefs or something like that. In this day and age I can see not gambling as high as we used to because there's little chance to get it back if you lose (from another game/player).

It would be cool to see some more action these days, I'm just not sure if that's possible or not. I believe bringing 'Two Shot Shoot Out' will create more gambling because it's more of a strategic game......and poker has proven that strategic games are popular.
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lmao, rodney would get his pants pulled down and violated from the top ten, rodney is top player but got no chance. i think he should just stick to challenging the uk guys an see how he does? then les travel just go london. can play shaw, daz, melling, peach, gray, boyes, think he would come out even there.
 
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