Does that mean "WE AREN'T THERE YET?"
Proposed TAR - TOI VS NO AIMING SYSTEM
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Does that mean "WE AREN'T THERE YET?"
Yes I won't be playing him 10 a game
that's why you knew I was joking....didn't you?
Of course we both know that, and that's why you knew I was joking....didn't you? :groucho:
The break isn't any more of a factor in two shot as one shot....why would it be, in one foul you play "roll out after the break" anyway......so it's not a factor.
Of course we both know that, and that's why you knew I was joking....didn't you? :groucho:
The break isn't any more of a factor in two shot as one shot....why would it be, in one foul you play "roll out after the break" anyway......so it's not a factor.
I thought you fig with rules I have only played once that you had the nuts
So we both agree the break is big
Your post about the honor system means less
You didn't have to check racks because the honor system back in the day lol
You and CJ need to play EVEN if you ask me. Sound like somebody wants a "lock". All I want is an "even" game where skill and talent should prevail. Nobody is suggesting that the game should be so "rigged" that one side would run away with it.
You and CJ need to play EVEN if you ask me. Sound like somebody wants a "lock". All I want is an "even" game where skill and talent should prevail. Nobody is suggesting that the game should be so "rigged" that one side would run away with it.
I would love to play him even
Why don't you go quote where I said I would play
10 ball even
9 ball even
1 pocket even
8 ball even
Bar table
9 ball even
8 ball even
10 ball even
All played by the rules 99 per of us play
Because the game I WANT to see is 2F9B. If I wanted to see all the other games you mentioned, I can see them already.
The reason I suggested this match is that I know CJ knows how to play this game and I know you are a GREAT player. I don't think it would be a "RUNAWAY" by either player. I would suggest other players try CJ at this game also, if you decide it isn't for you.
I'm TIRED of watching the SAME stuff over and over...I want a little something DIFFERENT that brings the "mind" more into the game. Just as I have said, CJ has said, and NUMEROUS people have said..."the game as it is played today is becoming MORE boring (even to us people who LOVE pool)."
The reason one-pocket is interesting to some is because it requires a lot of thinking along with a lot of skill (to be played properly).
If this is a TAR match and they provide their "normal" funding, then there is nothing to lose unless you both bet on the side.
I c this is a match you would like to see
Keep in mind for me I have only played these rules once
I think cj is a good player so for me to play a game I have only played once isn't smart
You need to round up one of your "normal" opponents where you play and practice this game for a while just to see how "much" it changes the game. If you think it makes your game "worse" then maybe you prefer games with "less" thinking involved. I'm not saying it takes Einstein to play this game...it is just a DIFFERENT game.
With less thinking lol
I guess you think there is more to this game then 1 pocket ?
Not even close so much more to one pocket Sjd has proved that
Does this mean if Pink Lady gets the air fair you would play CJ two shot in Fort worth.
I look at it like you can't loose. If you get beat by a world champ at his game, no big.
If you beat him at his game in his room, that's monster.
Let's not STRAY from the ORIGINAL subject.
Do you NOT think an EVEN match with CJ playing this is a "winnable" possibility for you?
If you think CJ is the favorite in this game, in what "area" do you think he has the edge on you? Experience? Shooting ability? Safeties? Breaking ability? Mental? Banking? etc., etc., etc.
What makes you "think" you CAN'T beat him at this game? I think you are a good player with skills that match some of the best in the game today.
Let's not STRAY from the ORIGINAL subject.
Do you NOT think an EVEN match with CJ playing this is a "winnable" possibility for you?
If you think CJ is the favorite in this game, in what "area" do you think he has the edge on you? Experience? Shooting ability? Safeties? Breaking ability? Mental? Banking? etc., etc., etc.
What makes you "think" you CAN'T beat him at this game? I think you are a good player with skills that match some of the best in the game today.
Nope, your doing it rite.."It's still nine ball".
If Chris thinks he can win playing one pocket and 9 ball he should step up and play Cj.
Its not all cracked up like some are making it.
Just my opinion though.
Nope, your doing it rite.."It's still nine ball".
If Chris thinks he can win playing one pocket and 9 ball he should step up and play Cj.
Its not all cracked up like some are making it.
Just my opinion though.
Having played 2 foul myself for many years, it is a better version of 9 ball. However, as already stated, it is still 9 ball. Many large packages were put together in the past by the greats. You don't get even a two pack if you are constantly pushing out.
If C.J. were to give Chris the breaks, with a fair rack, he would get slaughtered. No question about it at all. Chris would be putting down packages while C.J. would be fighting to get one game at a time at best.
So who do you think would win EVEN?
'Shoot Out' is more strategically difficult than One Pocket - correctly stated
In 'Two Shot Shoot Out' you can't duck and hide, you must make the shots and run out and strategically out maneuver you opponent. The quality of shot making, safety play, long shots, banking, caroming, and aggressive play is far superior to "One Foul" and superior to One Pocket (not vastly, however it's definitely more difficult).
'Shoot Out' is more strategically difficult than One Pocket and I've stated many times that I would bet very high that I will prove that on video or streaming video with anyone on this planet. Not only will I win this debate on video, I will win it convincingly. One Pocket's a great game and I enjoy it, however you only shoot and/or guard against one pocket, you don't use the sides and in 'Two Shot Shoot Out' you must guard against all six pockets. The roll outs set up a challenging situation every time in every game that isn't a "break and run".....if there's a required "roll out" it happens in every single game.
In 'Shoot Out' there are thousands of strategic possibilities and the players will be shooting most of them off the end rail, the side rail, masse' shots, jump shots, long cut shots, long bank shots, hundreds of "two way shots" and a plethora of one, two, and three rail banks in the corners as well as the sides while still playing position on the next shot and safe if you miss ....and if you miss it must be on a designated side of the pocket or you will sell out and lose the game. 'The Game is the Teacher'
Let's not STRAY from the ORIGINAL subject.
Do you NOT think an EVEN match with CJ playing this is a "winnable" possibility for you?
If you think CJ is the favorite in this game, in what "area" do you think he has the edge on you? Experience? Shooting ability? Safeties? Breaking ability? Mental? Banking? etc., etc., etc.
What makes you "think" you CAN'T beat him at this game? I think you are a good player with skills that match some of the best in the game today.
In 'Two Shot Shoot Out' you can't duck and hide, you must make the shots and run out and strategically out maneuver you opponent. The quality of shot making, safety play, long shots, banking, caroming, and aggressive play is far superior to "One Foul" and superior to One Pocket (not vastly, however it's definitely more difficult).
'Shoot Out' is more strategically difficult than One Pocket and I've stated many times that I would bet very high that I will prove that on video or streaming video with anyone on this planet. Not only will I win this debate on video, I will win it convincingly. One Pocket's a great game and I enjoy it, however you only shoot and/or guard against one pocket, you don't use the sides and in 'Two Shot Shoot Out' you must guard against all six pockets. The roll outs set up a challenging situation every time in every game that isn't a "break and run".....if there's a required "roll out" it happens in every single game.
In 'Shoot Out' there are thousands of strategic possibilities and the players will be shooting most of them off the end rail, the side rail, masse' shots, jump shots, long cut shots, long bank shots, hundreds of "two way shots" and a plethora of one, two, and three rail banks in the corners as well as the sides while still playing position on the next shot and safe if you miss ....and if you miss it must be on a designated side of the pocket or you will sell out and lose the game. 'The Game is the Teacher'
CJ,
You've mentioned the guarding against 6 pockets numerous times, and that you don't use the other pockets in one pocket. Sorry, but that's not true.
There are countless situations where all 6 pockets will never come into play in 2F9B. In reality, depending on where the balls lie, you might only have to defend one pocket. Hmmm...sounds familiar.
As for one pocket. If you aren't using the other 4 pockets, then you don't understand the intricate strategy of the game. Here's two simple examples:
1. Shooting a stop shot on a ball near the spot, so the CB lands on the spot. Now the OB must spot behind the CB leaving the opponent in a situation that's difficult to play either an offensive or defensive shot.
2. And the most common reason of all to shoot a ball in a neutral pocket. To bring a ball back into play. Especially useful when you need more than your opponent, and the balls are down table.