Please explain how if those elements were on TV, the general public would watch.
Proposed TAR - TOI VS NO AIMING SYSTEM
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Please explain how if those elements were on TV, the general public would watch.
Exactly the reason you can't even begin to compare the difficulty of the two games.
Yes, you'll have to make a tough shot once in awhile in 2F9B, but once you make that tough shot, the rest is usually cake if you stay in line. Plus, if you do get out of line for a particular pocket, you might have a different pocket you can go for. Finally, if you get really out of line, you can always use your, "Get out of Jail Free Card", aka Roll-Out.
CJ...Once again, please let me isolate your comments, and 'once again' try to explain MY reasoning on those same subjects..You are so busy, trying to prove yourself "right", you are overlooking (or ignoring) the points we are in agreement on, making it IMPOSSIBLE for a sensible debate and, causing ENDLESS repetition ! :banghead:
I have tried, a 'comedic approach',---'sane reasoning',---even 'borderline insulting' !.. Nothing has penetrated !..If you could just respond in kind, perhaps we could reach some sort of accord, before COMPLETE boredom sets in, and our interested readers (and myself) start drinking the Kool-Aid !!! This may take a while, for me to express..AGAIN !--(NOT MY FAULT)
Your points; (above) and my response !
{1}..That is EXACTLY what I am striving for ! (as I've stated at least a dozen times)
{2}..Also in total agreement..I don't know how many times I've said, that One Pocket, is NOT, nor will ever be, a viable
..... game for public consumption !
{3}..I also only want whats best for the game, to promote renewed interest !..This is where you have wasted thousands of words, trying to convince everyone, on the virtues of 'Two shot nine ball' over One shot BIH (or Texas Express)..You have not drawn a breath long enough to notice, almost everyone AGREES with you ! :boring2:
But it is "STILL JUST 9 BALL", and here is where we part ways, big time !..If all you are after, is the same old 'hard core' audience, with the same PROVEN dismal numbers, then keep on, keepin' on..It WON'T work !
You have turned a deaf ear (eye) on 'the Eye's' proposal... IT (or something like it) could be a great shot in the arm, albeit short term, for creating new interest !.. For the LONG term, I have insisted, that with very minor 'tweaking' 8 ball is the only game that has even a CHANCE of gaining widespread public acceptance, (ie; viewer's) at streaming, or ESPECIALLY TV success !..For all his underhandedness, Trudeau was a shrewd businessman, and even knowing very little about pool, 8 ball was what he was advised to showcase, and he recognized it's merits instantly !
I feel like I'm beating a dead horse here, but I care about what happens to pool going forward !..I would hope that somehow you may admit that my thoughts, at LEAST merit some consideration !..After all, I have nothing to sell but myself, and my compassion for the game ! ..And, this ain't "my first rodeo" !
SJD
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That is the WHOLE purpose of this post...whether it is for "big" money or not.
I want to see the game.
I watched pool on ESPN when it was on. Some of the longer games were cut down so it looked like a different game when they came back from commercials. That spoiled the entertainment factor for me. I think editing a two shot game down for TV would end up looking like a best of reel. You would loose getting in the flow of the game. Some people would like the ADD format but I wouldn't like a chopped up two shot game just to squeeze it on TV.
Edited games is one of the biggest things I hate about pool on TV.
Understandably though, it's tough to avoid (no matter what rules are used), because there's no way in knowing how long a race to 7 is going to last.
A simple solution would be to play to a certain number of points (say 80), where each ball counts as 1 point, and the nine ball counts as 2 points (break and run = 10 points). Now, the winner is determined by who makes the most balls, not who makes the most nines.
Good.
Of what ?
I'll play any game that everyone plays
I'm not sure if you play pool
I have been all over this country and not 1 person has asked me to play 2 foul
We go this way. Tournament just for TV format. One Table, 4 high profile players single elimination.
He said he thought you would win play CJ 2F9B. So I told him to convince you that you would win.
I used to play pool...now I play AT pool. I can BANG them with the best of them now.
The reason nobody has asked you to play this game is because it was DEAD for a long time. I'm trying to get it revived.
I DON'T know why all of today's players get "negative" when this game is brought up, If you read all the comments from the old school players you will see that they all say it is a better game. Why is everyone AFRAID to try it? If you can WIN at TE 9-ball and lose at this game, then maybe something in your game is lacking. It's up to you to figure out what part you are missing.
You and CJ need to play EVEN if you ask me. Sound like somebody wants a "lock". All I want is an "even" game where skill and talent should prevail. Nobody is suggesting that the game should be so "rigged" that one side would run away with it.
"don't confuse me with the facts"
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the ONLY game that CJ can now play, is 2 Foul TX holdem'.
and ONLY if played @ TX.
and ONLY this way - can TOI v NO AIMING SYSTEM be proven....
Thanks for your brief, and thought provoking response !..Now when you decide to get back on your "endless pro 9ball" ROCKING HORSE again, I shall edit out all the 'repeats' you could have made a SENSIBLE reply too !...There will be NOTHING left !:sorry:
Obviously, the only 'rodeo' you've ever been to, is "I love the Sound of My Own Voice Nationals"...
(held 15 or 20 times daily, at the Tarrant County Fairgrounds)
Nice talkin' to ya..NOT !!!... Adios !
Hello, Hello,...Can you hear me now ?:sorry:
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no need to yell ........
yes, sound that sound is lovely......... we can hear you, no need to yell ........
[B "I love the Sound of My Own Voice Nationals"
...Can you hear me now ?:sorry:
yes, sound that sound is lovely......... we can hear you, no need to yell ........
You walk like a duck Mr Touch Of Infamy.
Cya in 3 weeks at the Mosconi.
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Cya in 3 weeks at the Mosconi.
Matt <--- Jay's leather jacket and PinkLady are my teachers
Fear of playing 'Two Shot Shoot Out' is indeed mysterious
Fear of playing 'Two Shot Shoot Out' is indeed mysterious ........ especially when it takes a much more "well rounded" game....it's at least 10 times more strategic than one-foul-ball-in-hand-get-lucky-when-you-miss-and-kick rules. :groucho:
We know this game can be televised in Texas, because it is a lot like poker.
We want to see the absolute best players in the United States coming down here to play the game before it's too late......the clock's ticking....tic..toc...tic...toc..tic.
Fear of playing 'Two Shot Shoot Out' is indeed mysterious ........ especially when it takes a much more "well rounded" game....it's at least 10 times more strategic than one-foul-ball-in-hand-get-lucky-when-you-miss-and-kick rules. :groucho:
We know this game can be televised in Texas, because it is a lot like poker.
We want to see the absolute best players in the United States coming down here to play the game before it's too late......the clock's ticking....tic..toc...tic...toc..tic.
We've played several LIVE matches on ESPN
We've played several LIVE matches on ESPN and they all did really well. I played in 2 of them and the pressure was noticeably more than playing "Live to Tape" matches. We could have continued, but no one pursued it after 1999.....looking back it was a mistake.CLICK FOR ESPN AND MORE
We've played several LIVE matches on ESPN and they all did really well. I played in 2 of them and the pressure was noticeably more than playing "Live to Tape" matches. We could have continued, but no one pursued it after 1999.....looking back it was a mistake.CLICK FOR ESPN AND MORE
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thank you - i just won $1.00. twice. off of 50 AZBers.
i'm up $2K to date @ this thread, which covers Bartram's plane fare.
thank you - i just won $1.00. twice. off of 50 AZBers.
i'm up $2K to date @ this thread, which covers Bartram's plane fare.
Here's an example of the ESPN Show we did that had over 3 Million viewers.
Yes, you are right, we must provide entertainment and fast paced play. Here's an example of the ESPN Show we did that had over 3 Million viewers.
Yes, you are right, we must provide entertainment and fast paced play. Here's an example of the ESPN Show we did that had over 3 Million viewers.