An American disgrace
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I think he's confused because Douchaine is not playing in the MC this year. Maybe you meant Hatch?
The majority of team USA hasn't been that impressive for a long time.
Earl's the only person on that team that cares about the game as a sport. Hes probably one of the few that isnt in it for the politics and money. His bad attitude comes from the ruination of the game (and wiley screwing him on his million) of all the added bs rules over the years. Pool from 20 years ago is where its at. Pull Archer and Morris off. Add Dechaine and Shuff.
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Well, 90 percent of this forum are second-tier pool aficionados. What gives them the right to judge a professional player?
Same holds true for the content of AzBIlliards DIscussion Forum. 10 years ago, it was a great place for pool enthusiasts to hang out. Today? Not so much.
America has no industry organization which provides support to our American players to compete overseas. It's every man for himself. To date, Shane is the only American who is financially capable of traveling overseas to compete, representing the United States.
Therefore, the rankings reflect little to no American representation.
And let's not forget how the Billiard Congress of America (BCA) gave a seat to Mika Immonen, a European player, to compete in the China Open.
The BCA is the reason for American professional pool's demise.
Now that's Black & White!
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Europe could field a 2nd stream team and beat this USA Team - FACT.
Another fact; Europe have got juniors who would push this USA Team for all they've got! :thumb up:
Over the past 20 years - Europe has learned the hard way and is now benefiting fro things like Organisations, professional pool tours etc...
The real question is, will America do the same? :thumbup:
I don't know what Filipino players you know, but the ones I know are all backed and staked in every event they compete in. And you can take that to the bank.
And let's not forget that pool is celebrated in Philippines where pool players are looked upon as celebrities. In America, pool players are deemed as bums with no jobs.
Pathetic Shark
Banned
Lol. Do you mean like THIS level of English language comprehension? Give it up man. You're embarrassing yourself again. Have a good long chat with Corey when he gets back, eh, and leave this to the bigger boys.
Originally Posted by Pathetic Shark View Post
you are correct - those who go to the US are backed up by promoters/managers, but for Japan Open, China Open, and the WPC in Doha, a lot of Filipino representatives still use their own money and just partially rely on sponsorships.I don't know what Filipino players you know, but the ones I know are all backed and staked in every event they compete in. And you can take that to the bank.
And let's not forget that pool is celebrated in Philippines where pool players are looked upon as celebrities. In America, pool players are deemed as bums with no jobs.
also, although the Philippines still continuously produces good players, pool per se is not that popular anymore. the only time pool is shown on national TV news is when someone gets the championship. in fact, only a very few knew that Chua reached semifinals in Japan Open and Gabica fought in the finals for the WPC. the situation here is also sad.
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The key words are "partially rely" on sponsorships. :smile:
In America, industry members support other industry members as a general rule, as evidenced by the BCA organization. If players are sponsored, even if only partially, the majority of that sponsorship is product, not money.
As well, the cost of living in Republic of Philippines is quite different than here in the States. If an American pro wants to have a roof over his head, he better find him a spouse who will keep the home functioning or fat stakehorse who wants to buy his friendship with a pro player by giving them money. Otherwise, they cannot afford to travel overseas.
Just remember this. If a pro player were to earn, let's say, $50,000 per year in the United States, a third of $50,000 comes out for taxes, another third comes out for expenses, and if there's a stakehorse backer involed, more money comes out, leaving the pro player less than $10,000 to work with. Well, you can't live on $10,000 per year in the United States. I think $10,000 per annum may be a good amount to live off of in the Philippines, however. :smile:
To earn a decent salary playing pool in America, a pro MUST -- I repeat "MUST" -- earn well over $100,000 to live comfortably. After taxes, expenses, savers, and chop-chops, that $100,000 looks more like $35,000 per year to live off of in the United States. That's not what I consider a decent amount of money to live off of in the United States. In Philippines, $35,000, you could live like royalty.
Mama, don't let your children grow up to be pool players -- unless, of course, they live in the Philippines. :grin:
Pathetic Shark
Banned
Very good illustration of the differences.
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I do not know him personally but even though he has had 2 bad mosconi cups he still deserves to be there to represent team USA!! He is the 2nd ranked American but gets bypassed probably because the mosconi cup is all political!! What about Jeremy sossei ranked number 3 American y not give this kid a shot there? No disrespect to Dennis or Johnny but what have they done to be there this year??
