Who just HAPPENS to have had a TON of training before he won the WC in his home country.
Funny how everyone who is good is a "natural", then we see that somehow they put in 10k hours before they won.
And BINGO was his name

Who just HAPPENS to have had a TON of training before he won the WC in his home country.
Funny how everyone who is good is a "natural", then we see that somehow they put in 10k hours before they won.
But they all made it, right ??? so, you are saying with a student just as eager, just as dedicated, and with a full time coach, working with a student 5 days a week, you could NOT turn them in to a pro player ?? you outta your mind if you think someone could not.....
Yep, I agree... just some require more skill than others....
Where can I get one of those ''skillometeres'' or that thing' that tells me this sport or discipline is harder than that one? Sounds like you have that book. All sports at a High level take extraordinary talent and hard work, but to say one is more difficult than another is different. I want to know Where I can find this information in print? :thumbup:
From the sounds of it, weightlifting would be thee most difficult.![]()
I assume you've achieved some success in at least 50 sports to make this statement.
The reason that there's a limited number of NFL quarterbacks is simply because of the number of NFL teams. If the NFL expanded to sixty teams, do you believe most of them would be unable to find a quarterback?
Golf is very difficult, but strategically it's no where near the challenge of pool. The options on a pool table are almost infinite, and there's no defense in golf.
If you look at the earning potential, it's far easier to make a living playing golf than pool. There are thousands doing so.
If you're talking about simply accomplishments, I'd say bowling is much easier to master than pool...and I do speak from experience here.
I think that anyone who isn't handicapped can get to world class in pool. However it does require dedication and desire. People often THINK that they are dedicated and when you really look at how much time they put in and what they do with that time then you see that they come up way short of what's needed.
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Yep, I agree... just some require more skill than others....
Where can I get one of those ''skillometeres'' or that thing' that tells me this sport or discipline is harder than that one? Sounds like you have that book. All sports at a High level take extraordinary talent and hard work, but to say one is more difficult than another is different. I want to know Where I can find this information in print? :thumbup:
From the sounds of it, weightlifting would be thee most difficult.![]()
I'm not sure, but prolly in the same place you found the info that pool is the most difficult![]()
There are currently 6 QBs with $100 million salaries. The argument could be made that only 2 of them, Rodgers and Brees, are worth that much money.
I don't think the debate is about how many people can get the job as a QB. It's about how many are actually worth a large sum of money based on their abilities. Not many.
And I meant hardest to get good at.
It is a sport where one mistake cost you precious seconds or one mental laps could send you to the dirt.. The techniques for cornering, making your way through the whoops, executing a variety of jumps, handling a variety of surfaces, visualizing your lines, visualizing your rythem from section to section all make it a tougher sport to learn or get to the elite level. And of course it is physically more demanding and that doesnt just mean tough on your body.
Pool is easy. Relax, see the shot, execute, repeat.<--Then it should be easy for everyone to beat Efren, huh ?
The funny thing is you guys think I'm some supercross rider or something and don't understand your sport. I did very little amatuer racing but pool is my thing and my love. That's not going to stop me from saying it is easier than a sport like Supercross though.
No such thing as a natural talent in pool. Nobody just picks up a cue and starts running out. Sure, some people learn faster and retain information better than others, but that doesn't mean they have a pool gene.
But they all made it, right ??? so, you are saying with a student just as eager, just as dedicated, and with a full time coach, working with a student 5 days a week, you could NOT turn them in to a pro player ?? you outta your mind if you think someone could not.....
I was writing another response to this, and lost it when I clicked on a link accidentally, but I am gonna shorten it up to a comparison of skills levels between the U.S. and the Phillipines. Any student would need to compete regularly with other great players to season them up to be world class players. First, a recap of the state of play in the U.S.:
We have a total of 2 1/2 world class players.
SVB = 1 world class player.....barely. Can't win outside the U.S.
Archer = 3/4 world class player. He's just not as sharp as he used to be, although he can still win a U.S. tournament, if he is running well.
Rodney Morris = 1/2 world class player. He was always loose with his CB, and is falling off a bit, AND is not playing all that much these days. Can't stay sharp if yer not in the fray.
This is who your hypothetical student would be playing against for his next five years.
As opposed to the Phillipines. Orcullo came through the following list of players to cement his claim as a world class player.
Efren, Bustmente, Alcano, Pagulayan, Parica, Kiamco, Luat, Sambajon, Manalo, Gabica, Roberto Gomez, Gabica, and oh.... about 10 more that probably play a ball better than anyone in America under SVB.
I am curious.. Were you planning to move to either China or the Phillipines to train this prodigy teen? Or were you gonna let him practice in his basement and perfect his fundamentals before he goes out and starts slaying dragons with his cue?
Hey, I know it's brutal, but it IS the state of American pool. Two short decades ago, we were at the top of the pool world. Now, even our best player can't snap off a world championship. You need a good petri dish before you can grow a good culture.
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The singer/entertainer Don Cherry, (google him) who happened to be a PGA touring pro golfer, a 215 avg. bowler, and a VERY good pool player, once put it in perspective... When Johnny Carson, (on one of Don's many appearances on his show) asked him this question..He said; "Don. you seem to be good at everything you do, is there any game you CAN'T play well" ?
Don did not bat an eyelash..He said; "Without a doubt, pool is the hardest game to become highly proficient at..I love the game, and I've been trying for 30 years, but I doubt if I am much better than an average good player" !
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OK, ii's official.. a singer nobody has ever heard of has decided pool is the most difficult game to master on the planet.. thanks for clearing that up
PS: Put down the Jack Mack![]()
I think that anyone who isn't handicapped can get to world class in pool. However it does require dedication and desire. People often THINK that they are dedicated and when you really look at how much time they put in and what they do with that time then you see that they come up way short of what's needed.
People think that they have desire but when you examine their choices in life you find that they aren't REALLY willing to sacrifice everything to try and become the best pool player.
I haven't yet found one single example of any person who REALLY showed that dedication and desire who didn't reach world class.
Now, to be a TOP pro among the world class, well that might be something intangible, heart, nerves, demeanor, extraordinary desire - or just even more time and experience. When the top level pros in other sports are studied they ALSO have more time in that lower ranked competitors of the same age.
Pool is tough to master. REALLY tough. It's a game for life. Average players have a lifetime of improvement to look forward to. I think it's fascinating.
Sorry RJ, he was from my era..I told you to google him... But NO, you prefer to be uninformed AND sarcastic !![]()
Sorry RJ, he was from my era..I told you to google him... But NO, you prefer to be uninformed AND sarcastic !
PS..He was more popular than one of your heroes, (Kanye West ?) back in the day ! :sorry:
Pretty sure RJ is a white middle aged republican. I highly doubt he's a fan of Kanyes.
Wow this thread is just chalk full of ignorance all around. Couldn't even get through a couple of pages without my brain hurting from all the dumb comments.
I will argue with anyone that pool has BY FAR the steepest learning curve of any other sport or activity. It requires a precision and attention to detail that far surpasses anything else. And I mean anything.
Saying that pool is nothing but point click and shoot is probably the most ignorant thing that's ever been said about pool on this forum. Period