im in!!!! very interested here
anyone interested in a bandsaw jig for making full splice cues
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It would have been best if it was perfected in aluminum BEFORE you did a marketing feeler.
You seem determined to make it work for yourself in metal anyway.
Lee Malakof did this sort of thing as a habit, frustrating many.
However, all you must do in order to set yourself apart is simply DELIVER.
Not sure if you're trolling or not, but have you ever done R&D work? Wood is often used for prototyping. Why spend more money on developing straight into metal when the cost would be 10x more? Invest $100 of wood or $2000 in metal? Choice is easy.
And as you should know, when making just one part, the cost of production is high. Now do a batch order and make 100, cost is dropping with every additional jig produced.
Plus, he could of never of made this thread and kept this idea to himself. Made a working model out of wood, and been done. But he decided to be generous with his idea and share it. Now I would assume by now that you know how stupid your remark is, but the fact that you had to make it shows how little you know. But keep to your trolling and knocking of other peoples ideas, you'll certainly get far in life.
Actually, you made the stupid post.
Pescadoman never suggested he do prototyping in metal. He was saying after all of the prototyping is done and it is perfected, make an aluminum one before marketing so that people can see a product. Why did he suggest this? See next paragraph.
As pescadoman pointed out, Lee made a lot of these types of posts referring to differeing products at various stages. A lot of people were very interested but some of the products ended up being varporous. This happened a lot and eventually Lee developed a certain reputation for it. Pescadoman was simply pointing this out.
I don't think Chuck will go down the Lee path. I personally have no problem with this feeler. But, I understand what Pescadoman was saying. I suspect a lot of folk who were around during Lee's heyday also understand his point.
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So you're saying Chuck should of spent all his time and money into making an aluminum jig, just so on the off chance no one would want it he wastes everything? Again, it's called R&D for a reason. If every idea out there worked perfect, and there were to always be a demand, it would be called Production, not R&D. Knocking someone's idea and comparing them to someone else is just being a bigot.
Then again, I'd guarantee than you haven't ever tried to invent something. Imagine sitting there being so close to making something work, then asking your target audience if they would want it and only getting a few people to respond. It's debilitating to see an idea so openly rejected. Why would Chuck continue onto making an aluminum/metal based jig if no one wanted one? Some many closed minded people are not able to see why someone is doing what they're doing, only looking at the past and others to judge the present.
I am definitely interested, keep me posted
Thanks
Thanks
Kelly HAS produced products (including spending his time and materials on R&D) and contributes a LOT to this forum. So, do your research before you start trashing people.
BTW - it is "should HAVE" not "should of".
Scott << forum deputy for the night
WOW, try and make a constructive remark.... I'm neither obtuse nor a bigot. He ALWAYS said it would be ALUMINUM.
I was merely suggesting he finish one(he is making one for himself FFS....RIGHT?!) before advertising something that isn't ready for market.
If it wasn't clear that I was merely trying to help, then I apologize. However, I take GREAT offense to your name calling.
Like I pointed out already, Lee Malakof put a pretty sour taste in people's mouths around here.
I'm not really sure where you got all your negative ideas about me.....
-Randy Kramer
Just an objective comment that might end the squawking. The original post said "A buddy an myself have what we think might be the answer. Its made from solid alunimum. Let me know. Chuck starkey". The term "it's made" means it is made: not, it will be made. Anyway, I hope it does get made, and I am interested in one also as I PM'd early on.
Pitchforks and torches!!
Let no good deed go unpunished. This is just great.
To compair Chuck's reliability with Lee's sad record is ridiculous.
To speculate that a square shooter like Chuck could possibly be as unreliable as Lee, well...is that even possible?
Robin Snyder
Let no good deed go unpunished. This is just great.
To compair Chuck's reliability with Lee's sad record is ridiculous.
To speculate that a square shooter like Chuck could possibly be as unreliable as Lee, well...is that even possible?
Robin Snyder
Well Chuck has done EXACTLY what Lee did in the past so far, so call me ridiculous. He asked if there was interest in a product that he hasn't even perfected for himself yet.
I'm not sure how trying to sell something is a good deed either, but if that is how you see it then I suggest you send him some money as a preorder. You know....good faith?
Yah, there is interest but no product. I simply said what a ton of other people are thinking. I guess they are smarter than me for not choosing to type some advice.
Anyway, like I said before(guess noone reads), I apologize if I was misunderstood(CLEARLY I WAS). Shit happens and I don't see the point in advertising something that isn't even a finalized product at this juncture.
Good luck though and I'll be a buyer. If not, then I can be the scapegoat for if it never reaches market. Like Robin said...no good(attempted) deed goes unpunished.
Randy-
I don't think you caused anyone a headache.
I fully get it that there are guys who are sitting there right now saying to themselves "Hey, I've got it! I'll make...um..wait! That's it!! I'll make sanding mandrels! I'll make the prototypes out of delrin. The aluminum ones will use the same manufacturing process. I'll make 'em right here on my kitchen table with my Unimat lathe. Who needs carbide? Everyone will worship me and I'll make millions!! I'll start next week."
I mean, these guys are really out there.
Chuck just doesn't strike me as that kind of cat.
Robin Snyder
I don't think you caused anyone a headache.
I fully get it that there are guys who are sitting there right now saying to themselves "Hey, I've got it! I'll make...um..wait! That's it!! I'll make sanding mandrels! I'll make the prototypes out of delrin. The aluminum ones will use the same manufacturing process. I'll make 'em right here on my kitchen table with my Unimat lathe. Who needs carbide? Everyone will worship me and I'll make millions!! I'll start next week."
I mean, these guys are really out there.
Chuck just doesn't strike me as that kind of cat.
Robin Snyder
i just read the entire thread
and let me say i never knew that there were that many haters, so many people that are unable to accomplish anything but attempting to start shit. if any of these idiots would spend 2 min doing a search or google chuck starkey they would find out that i have been selling on ebay for 20 years with a 100% feedback, i have been selling here for a few years with a 100 % trader rating, i have made over 400 cues and have one of the best warrentees out there today, did any read the thread where i replaced a cue that was 2 1/2 years old, it failed and the problem MIGHT have been my fault. oh well i guess these assholes just need something to make them feel important. had i known they would be lurking i would have had my attorney write the orignal thread start.
now for you builders that were really intersted in the jig, photos are of the orignal one, that fits my new grizzley band saw. look at the photos and build one for yourself, if you can think of any improvments please pm me with them.
and let me say i never knew that there were that many haters, so many people that are unable to accomplish anything but attempting to start shit. if any of these idiots would spend 2 min doing a search or google chuck starkey they would find out that i have been selling on ebay for 20 years with a 100% feedback, i have been selling here for a few years with a 100 % trader rating, i have made over 400 cues and have one of the best warrentees out there today, did any read the thread where i replaced a cue that was 2 1/2 years old, it failed and the problem MIGHT have been my fault. oh well i guess these assholes just need something to make them feel important. had i known they would be lurking i would have had my attorney write the orignal thread start.
now for you builders that were really intersted in the jig, photos are of the orignal one, that fits my new grizzley band saw. look at the photos and build one for yourself, if you can think of any improvments please pm me with them.
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Who are you calling assholes and haters who can't accomplish anything but starting shit?