CSI Invitational 10-Ball & 8-Ball Championships

Why would there be an asterisk? Would you put an asterisk next to every tournament that Dennis or Shane chooses not to play in? Any player that plays good enough to be invited could be and if they aren't it's because how they act. It takes more then just bein able to play good to get invited in and it's good to see someone stand up to these immature players.

What is quoted in red is not true at all.
 
This whole thing is silly. Had it not been for Rodneygate and CSI simply announced the idea for a couple of new small field invitationals of top players, this discussion would be completely different.

We'd likely be calling this the best thing to happen to pool since the Mosconi Cup, another small field invitational event.
 
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This whole thing is silly. Had it not been for Rodneygate and CSI simply announced the idea for a couple of new small field invitationals of top players, this discussion would be completely different.

We'd likely be calling this the best thing to happen to pool since the Mosconi Cup, another small field invitational event.

I agree with you 100 percent. :cool:
 
What is quoted in red is not true at all.


I thought about this and I think you maybe a little right that it may not be the case in all circumstances but I bet it is for most. I'm only thinking about top level players that don't get in, not the almost good enough ones that their play is not quite there.


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I thought about this and I think you maybe a little right that it may not be the case in all circumstances but I bet it is for most. I'm only thinking about top level players that don't get in, not the almost good enough ones that their play is not quite there.

There can be a plethora of reasons why a player might not be invited or cannot attend an invitational, one of which is finances, other obligations occurring at the same time, et cetera. :)
 
Personally I'm more curious to know details about the plans for these events, than specifically who or who is not invited.

This is the start of the new direction CSI has spoken of and I'd like more insight into their vision. Looking forward to more details about the seedings, etc. With smaller, invited fields the competition should be stellar. There won't be the usual dead money, easy draws...every match a potential "stream table" match. Also sounds like you won't have to devote 5-6 days to attend each event.

It will be interesting to watch how this plays out. :smile:

Every match will be a stream table match most likely, because they will use one table
and stream each match. Like they did at the Bigfoot Challenge.
 
There can be a plethora of reasons why a player might not be invited or cannot attend an invitational, one of which is finances, other obligations occurring at the same time, et cetera. :)


I referred to players not being invited not the ones that can't go.


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I like this format. It allows for longer races. The road to the final match is probably even tougher with an all elite field. Look and see how many big names shane had to play against in last year's 9b u.s open. It doesn't come close to being challenged every single match like this.

The entry fee will be high without all the dead money. The payout is very good and deep though I think.

There's plenty of tournaments to go around for the smaller fish to show if they belong.

No archer, no rodney, no big deal.

I would like to see north america with an additional 2 players since the u.s is the hosting site. Matchroom.com gives extra players to hosting sites for the pool world cup etc.
 
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And sometimes people can be invited but cannot afford to go, as one example. :smile:


Yes for sure that's quite possible in the pool world, but my point is the top players could be there if they choose to act right so the winners shouldn't feel like they didn't beat the best players and therefore no asterisk is required. I hope all that are invited do get the chance to play.


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And sometimes people can be invited but cannot afford to go, as one example. :smile:

Ummm, JAM - I think you need to learn more about the events in July before you cross someone off because they can't afford to go.
 
Every match will be a stream table match most likely, because they will use one table
and stream each match. Like they did at the Bigfoot Challenge.

Highly doubtful it will only be done on one table given they will start with a four group round robin. Would have liked to see it be a 32 player invitational. Maybe down the road....
 
Highly doubtful it will only be done on one table given they will start with a four group round robin. Would have liked to see it be a 32 player invitational. Maybe down the road....

Yup, 4 group round robin. Top player from each group advances.

IMO, a lot can go wrong in the round robin format. Thankfully, the players that are invited are of the higher moral character. Still, the format is ripe for deceipt.
 
Tennis, Golf, Football, Baseball, Basketball and many others.

In all of these sports anyone who thinks they can play has an avenue of opportunity to prove it. All of these sports crown a champion after all other competitors are eliminated.

How is that decided in Pool? Is it one fellow making decisions on who will get an opportunity based on how he feels that day?

In all other sports there is a defined structure of completion that eventually leads to crowning a real champion.

Inclusion not exclusion is a required element to grow any endeavor.

Don't misunderstand what I am saying. All other real sports have fast and hard rules in regard to player responsibility, and I am certainly in favor of that.

If someone disqualifies themselves because of not being compliant with the rules than that's the way it is. Not only in sports but in life as well.

A competitor who bests a field of 16 only means that he is a better player than the other 15.

But he is no champion.

And most importantly, he will never be the Peoples Champion, and that is the real problem here.

If a sport wants to conduct themselves as a country club that's fine. But don't ever think that folks will take it seriously.

Golf has more country clubs than any sport, I think, but they also have the PGA. This is what makes Golf a real sport. It has a professional venue that offers an avenue or opportunity to ANYONE who wants to compete.

Sometimes the long term ramifications of our actions can be easily over looked when we focus only on the present.

Good rolls

There is so much wrong in your post that I'm not even going to bother with it. Other than to say, next time you win a tournament, remember, it means nothing at all. After all, there are far better players than you that didn't play in it.;)
 
There can be a plethora of reasons why a player might not be invited or cannot attend an invitational, one of which is finances, other obligations occurring at the same time, et cetera. :)

Damn it Jen, please stop using those three dollar words :embarrassed2: .My Thesaurus is running double time :rolleyes: !

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There is so much wrong in your post that I'm not even going to bother with it. Other than to say, next time you win a tournament, remember, it means nothing at all. After all, there are far better players than you that didn't play in it.;)

I'm always aware of that, Neil. :)

The US OPEN should never be just another tournament, as far as I'm concerned.

I hope that's not just a personal idiosyncrasy.

I like to think of this tournament to be as grand a stage as any in the world of Pool.

A tournament that produces the Peoples Champion. A tournament, that exposed correctly, could capture fans and viewership of Americans that may not play pool, but do watch TV.

It's hard to get all the money in the house if you don't open all the doors.

The underdog is drama ... The unexpected is what keeps sport fans coming back for more.

Most importantly, I may feel like playing .. and I want everyone else to feel that way too.

Good rolls brother.
 
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...I'm of the belief that any contest that wishes to crown a champion can only be taken seriously if it is open to all competitors...

I disagree with this. Not every event has to produce a World Champion or even a "People's" Champion as you put it, to crown a champion of that event and have it carry prestige.

The Super Bowl is a country club event, only open to members of the NFL.

The Stanley Cup is a country club event, only open to members of the NHL.

The World Series is a country club event, only open to members of MLB.

The US Open Golf Championship is a country club event, only open to players with a 2 index or better, to even qualify to attempt to get in the tournament. And the Masters is an invitational.

The Mosconi Cup is obviously a country club event...

The list goes on...and I dare say the winners of all these events are recognized as champions and have earned prestige.
 
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Donny, I was once in a meeting and when the discussion got around to distributing information I piped up with "We need to decimate this information everywhere we can." I wanted to say 'disseminate this information' and I misspoke BADLY! A couple of people gave me a funny sideways look and finally one guy graciously corrected me. To say I was embarrassed is an understatement. Where was Grady when I needed him? :rolleyes:

Had you been working at JPMorgan, I'd say your words were probably well chosen. lol :grin:
 
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