Exactly. With all of the animosity between the camps there is no chance that they would let it go on and would have called it without hesitation.
A Report from the Lou v. Barton Match
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Exactly. With all of the animosity between the camps there is no chance that they would let it go on and would have called it without hesitation.
I do not know his name. Apparently, the people there know him, and they know how he plays, which is super strong.
There are a number of AZer's there, but they have not given me permission to mention them in the posts, so I have not. However, multiple people witnessed the coaching.
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He's already been named
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Was it Dennis? I thought I saw him in attendance.
Yes it was.
But according to Jon, he was just there to 'pep talk' him.
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VERY strong 1 hole player.
He's already been named.
Why does it matter? The issue isn't "who was the coach". The issue is "why is a player who is gambling for $10k talking to someone about the game between shots... especially a coach. And especially one who is a VERY strong, pro-level 1 pocket player.
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Saw,
I understand why you would say this, as each player and their "camps" do have significant distaste for the opposition. However, I believe Lou desired to have as little contraversy as possible once the match started, as it might give Barton an excuse to pull up and thereby wiggle out of the 10k hit that he is going to experience at the conclusion of the match.
Just my 0.02
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That's why the money is posted, you can't wiggle out once the money is posted.
That makes no sense, what so ever. Just like it makes no sense that if John was
being coached the other camp wouldn't have said something right away. BS
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Coaching has never been allowed in any game unless agreed upon before starting the match. Especially in a game like one pocket where it could make a lot of difference.
However IMO a slew of coaches wouldn't help John in this match. JB just missed too many balls. Had he made half of the balls he missed it would be a much closer match. I would love to see this go hill hill or close to that so that we will could have the final games being played with a lot of tension.
Once Lou built a lead he was able to get comfortable and pretty much do as he pleased.
I applaud JB for hanging in there and giving it all he has even though for a good part of the match it was obvious he was irritated with his performance. Mainly missing balls that were well within his abilities.
However IMO a slew of coaches wouldn't help John in this match. JB just missed too many balls. Had he made half of the balls he missed it would be a much closer match. I would love to see this go hill hill or close to that so that we will could have the final games being played with a lot of tension.
Once Lou built a lead he was able to get comfortable and pretty much do as he pleased.
I applaud JB for hanging in there and giving it all he has even though for a good part of the match it was obvious he was irritated with his performance. Mainly missing balls that were well within his abilities.
You make a lot of sense!
Also, reports indicate that Eric Hu was thrown out after game 2 due to some mix of heckling or threatening JB. That's a possible explanation for why JB's game improved dramatically after game 2.
I'm gonna have to call BS on this. Lou has backers and I'm sure for 20k in the middle, they are paying attention to what's going on. If they saw some whispering that looked suspect, they would be all over it.
The 2 guys playing are not world beaters and I'm sure there are plenty of guys in the room that play 1 Pocket much better. If there was coaching going on, it would be noticed.
All this is just rubish that people are stirring up. JMHO
The 2 guys playing are not world beaters and I'm sure there are plenty of guys in the room that play 1 Pocket much better. If there was coaching going on, it would be noticed.
All this is just rubish that people are stirring up. JMHO
reports are wrong. watch the match again, it's saved on ustream, and the first two racks. Eric is just sitting there. JB approaches him numerous times. He was removed because he was a possible distraction to JB but he was not heckling or threatening JB during the match.
they did have an altercation before the match but there's obviously going to be different stories about who did what, etc.
Why does it even matter at this point other than to try and make JB go off. If it did happen and Lou knew about it, he should have stopped the match instantly and resolved the situation. Why complain now when your buddy Lou is on the hill? It's Lou's own fault for not addressing it.
From what I saw, JB flat out gave at least 2 games to Lou that he should have never lost. The score should be 8-6 JB if he could have played a lick.
For Lou to be this supposed 100 ball runner, 8 ball champion and multiple DCC casher, all I can say is his competition must have been extremely weak. To come off as a pompous I'm better that you a$$, I expected him to be better than a low B player.
Gotta love the drama!
From what I saw, JB flat out gave at least 2 games to Lou that he should have never lost. The score should be 8-6 JB if he could have played a lick.
For Lou to be this supposed 100 ball runner, 8 ball champion and multiple DCC casher, all I can say is his competition must have been extremely weak. To come off as a pompous I'm better that you a$$, I expected him to be better than a low B player.
Gotta love the drama!
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You may be right; even so, I could see how Eric's departure could clear John's mind.
And count me among those who see no way Lou and his team would let coaching slide (I wouldn't). First, coaching could make Lou lose. Second, pointing it out, if true, would give Lou a powerful dig against John, which I don't think Lou would pass on given the history.