Think of all the starving ethiopians you and JB could feed with that money instead, you selfish jerks :grin-square:
Did The JB vs Lou Match Settle The Great Aiming Debate Once & For All?
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Think of all the starving ethiopians you and JB could feed with that money instead, you selfish jerks :grin-square:
That IS a lot to deal with, but you handled it very well. Do you think it would be fair to let John choose a different game for a rematch?
Lou, if I had had enough cash then I would have stacked it. But you asking me to bet more right when I was going into 18 hour days was not enough time to draw out more cash.
I will ask you for a rematch when I am ready. I will ask that the entire amount be placed in escrow well before the match.
There will be no months of barking.
Either you will accept when I am ready or you will not. If not then that's ok. You do whatever makes you feel comfortable. But any person who says or thinks that I was afraid of your game before or after the match is 100% wrong.
I had a great time. You played great. I have a lot of respect for you. My head was not all there. I would love the opportunity to try again someday for an amount we can agree on.
TheThaiger
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Forgive me for butting in here but you shouted long and hard about how much money you had and how easy it was to get more.
It's almost as if - gasp! - you misled us!
The crawfishing was poor. Damn poor.
Forgive me for butting in here but you shouted long and hard about how much money you had and how easy it was to get more.
It's almost as if - gasp! - you misled us!
The crawfishing was poor. Damn poor.
Had. Invested in other things. Things which pay well more than 100% with less risk than a heads up match against a good player.
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Look. It is absolute fact that none of the CTE based systems work as claimed. Some people simply aren't smart enough to realize this fact for themselves. Sorry if that offends some people but sometimes there simply isn't a softer way to state the truth, and my intent with that statement is not at all to insult, but just to state the truth as it exists. This is why you don't see any scientists backing up these "systems", and there are plenty of scientists here on AzBilliards. And in fact many have weighed in and stated that the "systems" do not work as claimed.
So if you are one of these people that knows the truth, it is hard to stand by and watch others get misinformed. Picture this. Somebody is selling (or even giving away) pills that they claim will help with various pain such as arthritis, migraines, injuries, you name it. The pills work for some people, and don't work for others. You happen to know that the guy is actually selling sugar pills. Do you have a problem with this? Most people would. But why, when the pills are actually helping some people anyway?
Because it was dishonest. Because it is false advertising. If the guy was just honest about them being sugar pills when he sold them then nobody would care. The people that buy them know what they are, and if it ends up helping their pain for whatever reason then more power to them. People don't care that sugar pills are sold, people don't care that people want to buy sugar pills, people only care when the sugar pills are represented as something else when they are sold.
And so it is with aiming systems. The fact is that they help a portion of people for a several reasons, primarily because they are forced to be focused on every shot, and because it improves their confidence since they believe in it. But they are all ultimately still correcting for the inaccuracy of the system and using their own judgment in aiming just like all the non system users even though they may not realize it because they do it subconsciously. It is kind of like trying to barely miss pocketing a ball by intentionally hit the point of a pocket to rattle the ball to hide your speed from an opponent. Try it some time. More often than not you will pocket the ball anyway often splitting the pocket, because your subconscious takes over and does what it knows how to do, which is pocket the ball.
The "anti-system" people aren't actually anti-system at all. They are anti false advertisement and anti dishonesty. If the system people were saying "hey try this system which is just a series of steps that you do when aiming, ultimately you still have to correct for the system inaccuracies and aim with your judgment subconsciously anyway but you will never know you are doing and it actually gets amazing results for some people" then I doubt you would ever hear a peep from any of the "anti's".
The anti's aren't out to get systems, they are out to get false advertisement and dishonesty, just like when you don't care if the guy sells sugar pills as long as he doesn't represent them to be some other medication. This isn't an attempt to disparage aiming systems or start an argument with anyone, I am simply trying to explain why the "anti's" feel the need to let other people know what it actually is even when they don't use it themselves because a lot of people have mentioned this. It is the same reason you would feel the need to tell someone they are really buying a sugar pill even though you don't use sugar pills and don't have any problem with anyone who knowingly does.
So, selling your integrity is as simple as calculating a better ROI? Thanks for clarifying.
That had to be one of the most ridiculous statements I've seen on this site. Please enlighten us with your "facts" that conclusively prove this. Dr Dave and Bob Jewitt haven't provided scientific evidence that it works, that's true. However, they've provided no scientific evidence whatsoever proving it doesn't work. What little they've published shows they don't understand it. There's a significant deference between a scientist offering a purely subjective opinion and fact.
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It has already been provided, many times, by many people, including by me. You just aren't smart enough to get it. And truly no offense is intended, and I really mean that. There just isn't any other way to put it.
Dude, you are slightly humorous, I give you that. That's the sort of spin answer a troll gives when the don't have any facts to back up their BS. Nice try. No offense taken, you're more than welcome to your opinion. If you need me to, I'll loan you the money in order that you may purchase a dictionary and understand the difference between fact and opinion.
What are you talking about? When negotiating there is no deal until the contract is signed. And yeah when the choice is between investing in my business and gambling then gambling is out.
If you think spending money on gambling is better than people who depend on you then that is a stance I don't agree with.
When I said double the bet I had the extra money. But when there was no answer then I decided to put the money to better uses.
Sorry if that offends you.
Maybe we can make a game then. I'll use my grip & rip and play you for whatever you'd like, Lou. It makes no sense for a dispute of what I said. It's 100% true.
One Pocket is fine. That is the game I lost at and it is the game I would want to play.
Christopher Columbus' voyages still did not prove the earth was round in the eyes of many at the time. It took scientists and other developments later on before that majority of the world was convinced. Even to this day there are still a few holding on to the sincere belief that the earth is flat. No amount of proof will convince them, and no amount of science can convince them, largely because they don't understand the science and it goes against what their senses and perceptions are telling them.
The funny thing is that the analogy you used is actually perfect for you and other CTE "believers", and is one I have used before. "The systems sure seem like they are working, and it sure seems like it gets me to the correct aiming point/line, so it must be getting me to the correct aiming point/line". Just like "well it sure seems to be flat, and it sure looks flat, so it must be flat".
Scientists finally conclusively proved the earth was round, but you still had a bunch of people who frankly just weren't smart enough to understand how it could actually be round, who still believed it was flat because it sure looked flat and seemed flat to them. And scientists have conclusively proven that CTE does not find the proper aiming point/line, and does not work the way that the users think it does, but they still hold onto the belief that it does because it sure seems like it is working to them, just like the earth sure seems flat. It's time to stop being a member of the flat earth society and accept the scientific proof from scientists, even though it is totally beyond your scope of understanding.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flat_Earth_Society
Like I said I really don't want to turn this into another debate and only wanted to clear up why the anti's feel it important that it is not misrepresented in a dishonest way. I have already explained it dozens of times in the past, as have many others, and you can refer back to one of those threads if you wish. I would simply repeat the same thing over word for word that has already been explained before, which you have certainly already read. You simply aren't smart enough to get it. But to briefly humor you, for starters you can't even explain it completely and in enough detail that someone else could replicate it perfectly from your description. And the reason you can't is because part of the system is that you are using your own aiming adjustment judgments from experience to correct for the fact that the system only gets you in the general vicinity of the pocket. If you think you can explain it in a way that someone else can do it without feeling like there is missing steps or anything that is unclear (the parts where you are using nothing but your own aiming judgments based on experience) then go ahead. Nobody else has ever been able to do it.
Your knowledge of history is even worse than your knowledge of CTE.
Eratosthenes in the 3rd century BC calculated the circumference of the earth to around 10-15% of it's actual size.
No educated person in 15th century Europe or in the Islamic world thought the world was flat. Only the actual size of the earth was in question.
The real 'flat-earthers' are those that deny that CTE works.
If the ball goes in the hole - the ball goes in the hole.