How to shoot this shot

Black-Balled said:
My pms is back and I is this guys fault!

So, breaking the balls-from behind the headstring makes the area behind the rack the 'top' of the table?! :slap:

If so, Then yes: the foot rail is the top of the table. :fall:
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Where you break from is the "bottom", the rack is at the "top". That's just me though, but it makes sense. A bit like starboard and port.
"Port and starboard are nautical terms which refer to the left and right sides, respectively, of a ship as perceived by a person on board facing the bow (front)"

This way no matter which way you rotate the table or which way you are looking at it (say if you are commentating at the other end of the table from the breaker), the reference point is the same. Top is opposite side of the table form the shooter.

BTW I hear Midol is good for your cramps :)
 
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I'd back cut it. Unless I'm missing something, even center ball or a touch of follow avoids the scratch.
 
Swighey said:
Actually, describing it as it is seen in the OPs image prevents the confusion that just happened.
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To me, it's the opposite, it would be clearer if we used an absolute reference rather that one that depends on which way the picture was rotated. Let's say you have NO picture, and someone states "I shot the ball to the top right", you will immediately picture the table with top right being the corner pocket to the right of where the rack goes correct? I know I'm taking this thread way off course here hehe, but damn it, I feel like nitpicking something today :):wink:

I said in the other post, it's same as port and starboard in a ship, it's based on someone facing the bow. Top of the table should always be opposite of where you break from. I just made an official ruling. I'll talk to Jewett and some others so we can get it in the official rules :grin-square:
 
hang-the-9 said:
To me, it's the opposite, it would be clearer if we used an absolute reference rather that one that depends on which way the picture was rotated. Let's say you have NO picture, and someone states "I shot the ball to the top right", you will immediately picture the table with top right being the corner pocket to the right of where the rack goes correct? I know I'm taking this thread way off course here hehe, but damn it, I feel like nitpicking something today :):wink:

I said in the other post, it's same as port and starboard in a ship, it's based on someone facing the bow. Top of the table should always be opposite of where you break from. I just made an official ruling. I'll talk to Jewett and some others so we can get it in the official rules :grin-square:
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Let us nitpick away! This is important shit!!

Not to speak for the honorable Mr. Jewett, but the 'head' of the table is where one breaks from; the 'foot' is where the balls are racked.

A- I present definitions of head spot and foot spot. The former is at the end o the table that one breaks from, the latter the point the front of the rack resides.

2- my mom says I am smart and I know many words:eek:

See, it is discussions like this that make pool's pros truly embrace our azb as the coolest place on interwide web.
 
Appling the "science of pocket billiards"-cutting to right side pocket is easiest-left
corner pocket is next- right corner pkt is third-1 rail to left corner under
shooter is 4th- one rail to right corner pkt is 5th-2&4 rail banks are probably
by accident.

I have played on a couple of "gaff" tables where crossing over the ball
and banking 1rail to middle of end rail was the high% play!

Assuming I am seeing diagram correctly.If not,well never mind.
 
Black-Balled said:
Let us nitpick away! This is important shit!!

Not to speak for the honorable Mr. Jewett, but the 'head' of the table is where one breaks from; the 'foot' is where the balls are racked.

A- I present definitions of head spot and foot spot. The former is at the end o the table that one breaks from, the latter the point the front of the rack resides.

2- my mom says I am smart and I know many words:eek:

See, it is discussions like this that make pool's pros truly embrace our azb as the coolest place on interwide web.
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Guess you haven't found a differant job?:Do;)
 
Black-Balled said:
Let us nitpick away! This is important shit!!

Not to speak for the honorable Mr. Jewett, but the 'head' of the table is where one breaks from; the 'foot' is where the balls are racked.

A- I present definitions of head spot and foot spot. The former is at the end o the table that one breaks from, the latter the point the front of the rack resides.

2- my mom says I am smart and I know many words:eek:

See, it is discussions like this that make pool's pros truly embrace our azb as the coolest place on interwide web.
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It's all very confusing, B-B.
Snooker, in Britain...top of the table is where the black spot is.
Snooker, in Canada...bottom of the table is where the black spot is.
So we tend to look at it like America....
...separated by a common language....
 
To the bottom left (backcut, or, cut left) is my shot. More room for error because you can hit the long rail early and still catch the facing and sink it.

Cutting to the right doesn't give you as much wiggle room if you're off a little. Easier to rattle the ball and leave a hanger if you cut right (to the bottom right pocket).
 
BRussell said:
I also shot this in the upper left (and missed). It seemed easier to see. Thinking about it later, I thought the lower left might have been the better choice, because the rail increases the margin of error for the shot, making the pocket in effect larger.
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The lower left is also a shorter shot, thus a greater margin for error. Also, just hit soft and pure with a little low, for a stun shot, and you won't have to worry about the scratch.
 
Top right for show bottom left for dough.

I shoot this with a touch of high to get the CB over to the rail below the side pocket and with enough speed that if I undercut the OB it hits the end rail and comes back up table to about the second diamond and close to the rail.

If I have had a few beers I might just bank it one rail to the corner!;)


Gary
 
Questions like these are exactly why we need players like C.J. Willey,on this forum to gives us an example why one shot is better than the other.
 
DeadStick said:
That's some sporty shooting right there. Did you get all 6 on the first take?
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Of course I did!:smile:

Believe it or not after that exercise I think the little short back cut into the side is the easiest shot there trumping both corner pockets.

JC
 
I can miss it either way.

If I slow roll it, I probably back cut it to the left corner, but I might bring the right side scratch into play.

If I hit it crisp, I probably play into the right corner, as seen from the shooter perspective.

Slow rolling allows the ob to roll naturally by the time it gets to the left corner pocket, so you can catch some long rail going in, and still pocket the ball.

Hit crisp, center stun, the ob is turning the wrong way when it gets to the exposed facing of the left corner pocket, so catching the rail will probably rattle the shot. The stun, should take the scratch away.

Generally, I would shoot it to the right corner pocket. The shot is facing the full open mouth of the pocket. Crisp keeps it on line, and avoids the scratch in the left side. Crisp center stun, or a tip low...maybe a touch of left, not much. It's personal preference...I see the cut to the right better in that layout.

But, I've missed either shot choice many times. I ain't thrilled with either. Pick your poison.


OP..thanks for the thread. WWYDo's are fun, hearing how different players evaluate the right shot for them, us, me, you, etc, etc:thumbup:
 
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