Are Low Deflections Shafts Really Worth It?

I already have a low deflection shaft but constantly wonder if it was really worth the $235 I spent on it. I love the way that it plays but all the old pro players didn't have low deflection shafts simply because the technology didn't exist at the time. The old pros seem to have done just fine without some high end shaft and arguably played even better than todays pros. I know this is a bit of a sweet area to talk about but I would enjoy hearing others input regarding the subject.

Do you shoot like a pro with a regular shaft? If yes, then go ahead and switch to one. There is no "worth it" in equipment especially with shafts and tips. If you can play as well with a regular shaft, then play with one.

You figure out if you want to use an LD shaft BEFORE you get one, if you play well with it, then it was worth it.

It does not matter what the player next to you uses, you did not learn to play like he did, he does not know to aim like you do.
 
I think LD shafts help but if you are changing to it, it might take some time to adjust your aim. Took me a bit but once I got use to it, I feel I shoot better. Is it worth it? I think so.

Al
 
I am so old that I just have a serious problem going with the LD shafts but I am trying. I am finding that long straight in's where I have to draw straight back are easier with the LD shafts but shots where I have to load up with spin are much easier with standard shafts. Those shots are for every game except one pocket. There is no way I would us a low deflection shaft in one pocket. You just lose touch needed especially on thin hits with lots of spin. Lastly, I think I am going to have to make up my mind because I don't think you can switch back and forth with any consistency and expect to play up to your capabilities.
 
Low squirt (low deflection or LD) shafts have both advantages and disadvantages, but the bottom line is:

If you think it helps you play better, then it is worth it.
Thanks for the links as usual Dave.

I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion, or at least the way you wrote it here, which makes it sound like it's "all in your head." LD shafts have a substantive and real effect on your shots, and although I can understand why people may differ on whether they like them, it's not just a kind of placebo effect.
 
I agree.............

Let me ask you a question.
Would you rather have a shaft that goes where you are hitting it or would you rather have a shave that squirts and you have to guess how much it is going to squirt off???

Yes LD shafts a certainly worth the money!!!

I started playing again in 2008 after quitting for 8 years.

when I came back I could not believe how many players were playing so much better.

Finally I got me one of the low deflection shafts and I have never looked back.

If a player starts with one of these there is no big learning curve trying to adjust to how much deflection there is with the speed that you strike the cue ball.

Like Doug says here it's a no brainer for sure.

Low deflection is the way to go for sure...........
 
Low squirt (low deflection or LD) shafts have both advantages and disadvantages, but the bottom line is:

If you think it helps you play better, then it is worth it.
Thanks for the links as usual Dave.

I'm not sure I agree with your conclusion, or at least the way you wrote it here, which makes it sound like it's "all in your head." LD shafts have a substantive and real effect on your shots, and although I can understand why people may differ on whether they like them, it's not just a kind of placebo effect.
You are right ... that last sentence does sound a bit cynical. I agree that LD shafts can help many people, especially with certain bridge lengths and certain types of shots. However, regardless of what shaft one uses, one must still adjust for squirt, swerve, and throw in appropriate ways for different types of shots. An LD shaft creates less squirt, but it still creates enough squirt to cause misses. Also, an LD shaft has absolutely no effect on swerve and throw ... they are the same regardless of the shaft (for a given set of shot parameters), and one must adjust for these effects differently for different types of shots.

Regards,
Dave
 
I always felt that the question "Is [some product] worth it",
is a question about your personal finances, not a question about the product.

So nobody here can answer it because we have no idea how much $235 "stings" to you.

If you're bill gates and 235 bucks makes you play 2% better, then of course it's worth it.
If you're about to be evicted for late rent, even a 30% improvement isn't worth it.

If you were expecting your game to jump right up, you shouldn't have gotten your hopes up...
normally, right after you get one your game goes down for a while as you learn
to adjust for the new line of aim on heavy spin shots.

After you get past that adjustment period, you may find you make certain shots
better than you used to. But you also might play 10 racks in a row without
those shots ever coming up. So your game will feel just 'average' most of the time.

For me the adjustment period was 2 months. It was worth it, financially.
The shafts do what they claim (which anyone can test that in 5 minutes).
I always hated aiming way off to the side on heavy spin shots.
It just looks screwed up visually. My brain hates it.
That added fear and uncertainty when trying to fine tune my aim.
It was absolutely worth $200 to remove that problem.

As for "old pro players", who cares what they liked or used?
Different game, different balls, different cloth.
If I had a choice between Willie Mosconi or Oscar Dominguez
for equipment advice, I'd ask Oscar.
 
I think about these LD shafts and think PT Barnum was right....:rolleyes:
 

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I think LD shafts help but if you are changing to it, it might take some time to adjust your aim. Took me a bit but once I got use to it, I feel I shoot better. Is it worth it? I think so.

Al

Agreed. I just picked up a Predator SP with a 314-2 Shaft and after a couple of weeks of practicing with it, the benefits were obvious. Also tried a friends Lucasi Hybrid LT-88.(Hohmann's Cue in Black instead of White) comes with a LD shaft and a Kamui Soft Tip that was very similar to the 314-2 (same tip btw). That Lucasi Hybrid Cue is $320-$330 brand new..great cue at any price but for under $350, a no brainer.
 
I already have a low deflection shaft but constantly wonder if it was really worth the $235 I spent on it. I love the way that it plays but all the old pro players didn't have low deflection shafts simply because the technology didn't exist at the time. The old pros seem to have done just fine without some high end shaft and arguably played even better than todays pros. I know this is a bit of a sweet area to talk about but I would enjoy hearing others input regarding the subject.

Shoot 100% straight shots 10 times ob in center of table bc at head string. Shoot medium speed, with tip about 1/4 tip above cb center. If you made all 10 as expected then LD shaft will help, if you miss 3 shots work on your stroke before buying LD shaft
 
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