How to Connect our Mind and Body Directly to the Game of Pool.

336Robin said:
Agreed. I have come to the conclusion that only the English, know English. Perhaps we in the states should call it something else....but what?
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English was named because when the Brits went over to America back in the day the Brits schooled the Americans on side spin. What have the Americans schooled Brits on? Hmm. World dominance!

How do you gain position on the next shot? Oh, just some high running world dominance.
 
back in the 90s they called it "side" - do they even refer to sidespin as "english"

When I was over there playing with Steve, and Ronnie back in the 90s they called it "side" - do they even refer to sidespin as "english"?


Pidge said:
English was named because when the Brits went over to America back in the day the Brits schooled the Americans on side spin. What have the Americans schooled Brits on? Hmm. World dominance!

How do you gain position on the next shot? Oh, just some high running world dominance.
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This is a different type of learning called "Kinesthetic," and I recommend it highly

Yeah, bud, when you start thinking too much it creates "paralysis by analysis" - pool is a very difficult game, too difficult for anyone's conscious mind to master - it's best to allow the subconscious to process using feel and touch..

This is a different type of learning called "Kinesthetic Learning," and I recommend it highly to those that truly want to master the game of pocket billiards.

When I refer to the "Touch" of Inside," it's essential to develop that Touch through your sense of Feel (Kinesthetic) rather than just your sense of sight (Visual).
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The Inner Game is the Teacher


The Renfro said:
1.5mm=half tip

I aim half tip left... 1.5mm and I miss right 1mm I still am .5mm left... I miss left 1mm I am now 2.5mm left....

I aim dead center... I miss left 1mm... I am now 1mm left,, I miss right 1mm I am now 1mm right...

One can cross you over one cannot... The subterfuge about a tip being 13mm was good filler but you know better.....
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at what cost?

Pidge said:
English was named because when the Brits went over to America back in the day the Brits schooled the Americans on side spin. What have the Americans schooled Brits on? Hmm. World dominance!

How do you gain position on the next shot? Oh, just some high running world dominance.
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Very true Pidge, but its cost us everything I think we are the ones getting the lesson. We should mind our own damn business truth be known...jmho.
 
Pidge said:
English was named because when the Brits went over to America back in the day the Brits schooled the Americans on side spin. What have the Americans schooled Brits on? Hmm. World dominance!

How do you gain position on the next shot? Oh, just some high running world dominance.
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It was largely the French that schooled us on 'side and screw'.
And leather tips.
And chalk.

We developed the modern pool table.
And players that went back to Paris and took their money.
 
CJ Wiley said:
We experience the game through the cue and tip, the entire body (not just the upper body) is what influences the tip. One thing that is overlooked is a technique to connect the player's "self" synergistically to the tip.

This may sound challenging, and I assure you it does take practice once you understand how it works. The reward is it develops a potential that may otherwise be impossible in just a few weeks. Basically you want to practice a systematic way that allows the tip to work in conjunction with your entire body, opening the door to a whole new dimension of pool. Although this is advanced I believe it's important for anyone to be exposed to.

To bond this connection the tip must act as a reflection of what the back-hand is doing (when the back hand moves up the tip moves down {like a see/saw} for instance).....the back-hand must be a reflection of what the wrist, arm and shoulder are doing......and the wrist, arm and shoulder must operate as a reflection of what the hips, legs, head/eyes, and feet are doing (when the legs and hips move away from the cue ball the head, chest and shoulder/arm moves towards the cue ball).

When this chain is created suddenly the players is connected completely to the tip and therefore to the physical game. Only at this level can one perform at their top mental potential. The cue ball will actually create exactly what we "think" it will do. This is what is sometimes called "The Zone," or "Dead Stroke"....with practice this will become a part of your subconscious mind - we will actually be developing a "6th Sense" of understanding the game and more importantly ourselves.

This is certainly advanced, however, if the player knows how it's done they can learn to do it relatively quickly......actually it's easier for beginning players to learn because they won't have to re-train their bodies to perform this synchronization, they can learn it from the start with clear, concise directions. 'The Game is the Teacher' www.cjwiley.com
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When exactly did you lose your mind?
 
"the tail's wagging the dog" instead of the "dog wagging the tail"

Yes, the bigger muscles are the key.....many players look like "the tail's wagging the dog" instead of the "dog wagging the tail" - I'm sure you know what I mean.

The center of the body is used to move the head/eyes in a precise, repeatable motion.

The tip is the most crucial aspect and is controlled by coordinating the upper body of the shoulder, arm, wrist, and hand.

It's the synchronization that takes years to learn and understand.....however, someone can learn it in a matter of a few weeks with 1-2 hours a day of practice.


Mikjary said:
I see the idea of moving something to get an equal and opposite "reflection", because this is the way I've been working on dropping down into the shot. It is a very balanced method that lets me employ the larger leg and hip muscles instead of my back. This really helps in the fatigue category and puts my head completely on the shot line from the start of my aiming to when my bridge hand hits the cloth.

With this thought in mind, how do I connect my tip to all that? The closest I come is by chalking and looking at it to see if I did a good job. I've already tried to "be the cue ball", but every time my head ran into an object ball, it hurt! :grin-square:

Seriously though, you mentioned this several times before, but didn't follow up with any further food for thought. I'd like to hear more .Thanks.

Best,
Mike
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In Britain, we use many different terms:

check side - inside english
running side - outside english
top/top spin - not sure?
bottom spin/screw - not sure?
stun shot - not sure?
snookered - hooked?
double - bank
chinese snooker - has to bridge over a ball.
basics - fundamentals
ability - speed
 
This gives the player the tool (and the power) to make immediate changes

The brutal issue with putting yourself in the position to error on either side of the ball is you won't know why you missed any particular shot.....or at least there will be guessing involved.

When you make sure to favor one side of the cue ball (TOO or TOI) you basically eliminate one major factor responsible for a player not making a shot.

This gives the player the tool (and the power) to make immediate {positive} changes to keep from slipping into a slump (sometimes these can last longer than we care to admit).Our pool games, like anything else will never stay the same, either we're adjusting and growing, or ignoring and slipping.
'The Game is the Teacher'


BeiberLvr said:
So aiming center, the most you would be off is 1mm on either side.

Aiming off center, you could be off as much as 2.5mm on one side. Explain how that's better.
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DTL said:
Why adjust immediately after one miss hit? No one is going to put a perfect stroke on every shot. I could see after say shooting certain shots 30 - 50 times during a drill and logging the results (example: 80% of misses were to the left of the pocket, etc) and then making adjustments to correct the "pattern" or stroke flaw or feet placement, etc.
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In a game you most likely don´t have the chance to do that. To train a new setup, stroke etc it might be a good idea. To much for me though - so many other things come in to play imo.

Using TOI you will get better and better to do it very fast, the more you train it you will be very accurate hitting the ball and very accurate cuing - one big advantage imo.
I was accurate before but now even better.

With TOI you will have a built in "security system" sort of speak so even if you are off a tiny bit it will still go but if you are off you still see it and make adjustments for it (very small adjustments).

It´s a very good way to "perfect" your game and gives me a great tool for adjusting/seeing what needs to be corrected.

The inside that is needed is very little, try looking at it in reverse and it might be simpler to grasp.

When you see the cb float after contact with either rail or ob you will then see the true "no spin" shot and also the true angles that we have so easy to see.
In other words you take away the spin after contact.

It´s my "stockshot"/"broadside" sort of speak from where I (when standing up) decide which type of shot I will choose, it´s my "ground"/foundation.
If more inside spin is needed I use parallell aiming and if outside is needed I pivot slightly.
I want to add that I first look to hit up or down at the cb on the vertical axis before I use spin to get the angle, desired position. A blend of both can of course be used.
But I want it to keep it simple. So "stockshot", then vertical and then spin. Boy it´s hard to explain the how you actually do things and in what order.

Big thanks to CJ for putting in the effort to explain it, gives you a headache when you want to play:-). My "biggest" training I do know is to change from "training mode" (the mode when I training on something and actually see what I´m doing when I play good) to "just" play as good as I can. "Just do it" mode:-).

Think deflection when you shoot with it. When you have it you will see the result of a no spin shot - floating/dead cb and also a cleaner hit on the ob with "less" throw on it that makes it go straighter.

IMO - of course.

Where there is action there is always a reaction.

Like everything you learn though you will have to take action to "feel it". We didn´t learn to walk using a manual and see how fantastic we can move on any surface and any surrounding.

Have fun and be a kid and enjoy the road:)!

regards

Chrippa
 
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there's a need for consistent calibration.

Nothing stays "as is" in the universe.......our pool game is not the exception, therefore there's a need for consistent calibration.

I use the center of the pocket to calibrate my "Touch of Inside," and if any shot doesn't hit the center I immediately make an adjustment for the next shot. What I'm striving to do is make every shot's perception the same......from shot speed, to tip target to angle creation......over a relatively short amount of time this can be achieved.

This is pretty advanced, so if it doesn't make sense, I'd recommend "putting it on a shelf" and process it without judgment. In this case I'd strongly recommend not to form an opinion without proper investigation - it takes some quality time at the table to develop this technique, and it goes "hand in hand" with the 3 Part Pocket System, and the TOI technique. 'The GAME is the Teacher'

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DTL said:
Why adjust immediately after one miss hit? No one is going to put a perfect stroke on every shot. I could see after say shooting certain shots 30 - 50 times during a drill and logging the results (example: 80% of misses were to the left of the pocket, etc) and then making adjustments to correct the "pattern" or stroke flaw or feet placement, etc.
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CJ Wiley said:
The brutal issue with putting yourself in the position to error on either side of the ball is you won't know why you missed any particular shot.....or at least there will be guessing involved. <--?????? :confused:

When you make sure to favor one side of the cue ball (TOO or TOI) you basically eliminate one major factor responsible for a player not making a shot. <--Isn't that TWO 'major factors' ?????? :confused: 'The Game is the Teacher'
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Are you SURE you are not related to John Barton ? (very similar genetics AND thought processes) :sorry:
 
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