It's called an analogy. Look it up on dictionary.com
And this coming from the guy who's wondering if I speak English.
Here's another analogy...perhaps you've heard it before.
Pot calling the kettle black!
Did Souquet try to do the right thing?
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It's called an analogy. Look it up on dictionary.com
And this coming from the guy who's wondering if I speak English.
Here's another analogy...perhaps you've heard it before.
Pot calling the kettle black!
Here's the press release, dated April 8, confirming Ralf's participation: http://www.playcsipool.com/portals/0/PressReleases/PR140408.pdf
Accomdations Could Have Been Made.
My opinion is that Ralph didn't expect to get as far as he did. OK, so what. When it became apparent on Thursday night that Ralph could win his group after beating Shane, and considering that Ralph is the slowest player on Earth, soon to be challenged by John Morra in that regard, they could have moved the Friday morning matches up to a 9AM start to allow Ralph time to make his 7PM flight. Who cares when they start the matches. Just Email all of the PPV people of the early start. There were no more than 50 people watching the event live so what's the big deal. If they can move up starting times for a PGA Tour event because of incoming weather they can start matches early to allow for this possibility.
This entire situation could have been handled if Ralph would have let somebody know that he had to bug out at 6PM of Friday.
My opinion is that Ralph didn't expect to get as far as he did. OK, so what. When it became apparent on Thursday night that Ralph could win his group after beating Shane, and considering that Ralph is the slowest player on Earth, soon to be challenged by John Morra in that regard, they could have moved the Friday morning matches up to a 9AM start to allow Ralph time to make his 7PM flight. Who cares when they start the matches. Just Email all of the PPV people of the early start. There were no more than 50 people watching the event live so what's the big deal. If they can move up starting times for a PGA Tour event because of incoming weather they can start matches early to allow for this possibility.
This entire situation could have been handled if Ralph would have let somebody know that he had to bug out at 6PM of Friday.
Actually "pot calling the kettle black" is an idiom and not an analogy. You could turn it into an analogy by comparing it to something.
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What would you call the use of an idiom in analogous form to compare it to a previous analogy?
The respondent couldn't understand the first analogy written in English and the idiom was referencing that analogy.
If you can figure that one out....let me know.
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I agree, let's get back on topic.
In a country where a professional baseball game can be ended due to rain and one team awarded victory simply because they were ahead at the time, gives me reason to question just how severe an incident must be to be considered unprofessional when withdrawing.
It would seem to me that if professional baseball can end a game on a matter of convenience and not be considered unprofessional, then who sets the standard on just how inconvenient a situation must be for pool players?
Still no 8 ball purse money added to AZ players sub forum. Boy they are really getting there ducks in a row. The best PR for CSI would be to come out and say WE screwed up...period. If other people are put into this, CSI will get bit in the ass now and at a later date when someone talks. Johnnyt
I'll call you the riddler. For the second time, I started this thread defending Ralf, and I'm still not sure what got your panties in a bunch, riddler rick.
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It sounds like it needs structure/rules for players, promoters & fans!!!
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I dunno...I still don't think there was a screw-up.
Ralf was- for a truth that will likely never be known be known to us- unavailable to play his next round, so the next in line took his spot.
Makes sense to me, it keeps each round played...and what were they supposed to do? Only have first, second and fourth place finishers?
That is simplistic view.
If Ralf is forfeited and he is not replaced, the results will show 1st / 2nd place will be Ko Pin Yi / Ko Ping Ching followed by 3rd place Thorsten and 4th place Ralf
That is simplistic view.
If Ralf is forfeited and he is not replaced, the results will show 1st / 2nd place will be Ko Pin Yi / Ko Ping Ching followed by 3rd place Thorsten and 4th place Ralf
But at some point, there will be multiple players who finish in the same (paid) spot, because there was no match played, no?
How does the $ get paid for that place?
Bingo!
We have winner!
Once pay outs posted, then how do you modify it???
Where does the extra money come from???
All good questions that can't justify the modification/change.
Kd
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Semifinalists get about $2500 and Souquet has earned the $2500 as he was winner of his group
If they forfeit Souquet and they officially agree that there is nothing improper in him suddenly quitting they pay him prizemoney and his name will be listed as 4th
Thorsten will be 3rd and the 2 Ko brother listed as 1st or 2nd depending on who wins the final
On other hand if they think it is was improper and wrong of Ralf to quit, they may evoke their "organizer/promoter discretion " clauses to disqualify Ralf and not pay him his prizemoney. In which case prizemoney listing will be 1st 2nd and 3rd with no 4th
they can move those best 2nd finisher in group up to 4th but that makes it all messy and is not logical also since none of them played in semi. 1st to 4th place are always semifinalists:grin-square:
They said
First 8000
Second 5000
3/4 2750
But
Hofmann, souquet & Ko can't receive 2750 and the math/price money work out!
Ralph earned 3/4 and forfeited to ko to EARN 3/4 money! Not fair to give 5 thru 8 money cause he forfeited???
Kd
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First 8000
Second 5000
3/4 2750
But
Hofmann, souquet & Ko can't receive 2750 and the math/price money work out!
Ralph earned 3/4 and forfeited to ko to EARN 3/4 money! Not fair to give 5 thru 8 money cause he forfeited???
Kd
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Yea you're right, that's how they do it in all tournaments.
That's why no one was surprised or upset.
Even Pin Yi was elated as he had never gotten to play an
eliminated player before in a tournament. :wink:
Interesting and plausible theory.
If Ralf truly wanted to "do the right thing" (given that he suspected Orcullo of dumping), then the timing of his forfeit was WAY off. He should have forfeited before his match with Orcullo ended.
If while down on the final 8 ball Ralf unscrewed his cue and conceded the match to Orcullo, then everyone would have known his intentions, Shane would have advanced, and the entire fiasco would have been prevented.
But then attention instead would have turned to Orcullo dumping (supposedly), which would have resulted in another fiasco in itself. Maybe Ralf wanted to prevent this, so he decided to forfeit after the match and made up a bogus story about plane tickets to quell any speculation. But doing it this way resulted in the unintended fiasco we have before us.
Here is the question. Did he receive 3rd/4th place prize money? If he wanted to do the right thing, then he would know that he truly didn't deserve 3rd/4th place.
Speculating is fun. It would be nice to get an official statement from Ralf.
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OK
1st Ko Ping Chung and 3rd/4th Thorsten/Ko not affected.
Shane was 5th/6th $1750 but won 2nd $5000 so total prizemoney $6750
So it is just simple task of sharing the $6750 between Shane and Ralf
Shane will say he should get $5000 since he was 2nd while Ralf will say he should get $2500 at least since he got them both to semifinal
However they apportion it , it will not affect the others