Leather cord wrap?

Why not just buy the leather from Tiger? This stuff is much too thick and you'll never be able to press it to the proper thickness. I have seen dozens of wraps installed in an attempt to save money instead of buying the true stack wrap from Tiger. I have never seen one work out. Never.
 
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I have used round leather cord for wraps. I dont remember the exact mm size. I did really like the feel.

like a normal linen linen wrap, bit with larger cord.
 
ratcues said:
Why not just buy the leather from Tiger? This stuff is much too thick and you'll never be able to press it to the proper thickness. I have seen dozens of wraps installed in an attempt to save money instead of buying the true stack wrap from Tiger. I have never seen one work out. Never.
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So what is proper thickness? How thick is the Tiger stack wrap?
I know 1MM = .039 inches. That seems pretty thin to me. How thick is regular flat wrap?

By the way, lower cost was not my objective. Just wanted to know if anyone
had tried it. (Thanks Desi).
 
oldschool1478 said:
So what is proper thickness? How thick is the Tiger stack wrap?
I know 1MM = .039 inches. That seems pretty thin to me. How thick is regular flat wrap?

By the way, lower cost was not my objective. Just wanted to know if anyone
had tried it. (Thanks Desi).
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The stack leather wrap has to be cut and or sanded down. That round leather cord wrap will press most of the way down, but still have to be cut down and sanded like the stack. Here is what I ran into when using the round leather cord. I kept breaking it. 1mm round cord is not as strong as 1mm thick flat strip that is a few mm wide like the stack wrap. Also on the round cord when I did get one all the way on without breaking it, I had to press it like linen will a roller press and it moved around on me too much while pressing.

The end results between the stack and cord leather wraps were about equal once both were installed correctly. But the cord wrap was much more difficult to install than the stack. So my conclusion was the stack wrap was much easier to work with and therefore the money saved on the cord wrap was lost many times over in aggravation and having to redo the cord wrap.
 
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Thanks Chris!
This is exactly the kind of response I was after.
I was mostly concerned with the break strength when winding.
Great informative, non condescending, information.
On your advice, I will abandon the idea.

Thanks, Dan
 
ratcues said:
I posted the rules stated at the top of the ATCM section.
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Since you want to play forum police this morning, you should alert the mods to every thread that contains links to cuestik.com then.

Also has anyone attempted to split this cord in half? Shouldn't require pressing or sanding then.
 
There are a few problems you will encounter by trying to split the strands to .022/.023"

1. These strands are round.
2. A good quality leather splitter is very expensive.
3. Even if you managed to split the leather to the required thickness, it will, more than likely, tear/rip as you try to install it.
4. It will not be a smooth finish without sanding it.
 
ratcues said:
There are a few problems you will encounter by trying to split the strands to .022/.023"

1. These strands are round.
2. A good quality leather splitter is very expensive.
3. Even if you managed to split the leather to the required thickness, it will, more than likely, tear/rip as you try to install it.
4. It will not be a smooth finish without sanding it.
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As long as one takes the initial preparation to ensure that the round doesn't twist while splitting, I don't see a problem while doing the splitting. You seem stuck on the fact that it'll break, and seem to be convinced it will do nothing but break. Why so? Could the leather be pre-soaked in something that makes it less prone to ripping? And who says you want it to be a smooth finish?

Devil's advocate also says an embossed line pattern on a real piece of leather, when installed to look like wound up cord will be a better target idea to look at.
 
Hits 'em Hard said:
As long as one takes the initial preparation to ensure that the round doesn't twist while splitting, I don't see a problem while doing the splitting. You seem stuck on the fact that it'll break, and seem to be convinced it will do nothing but break. Why so? Could the leather be pre-soaked in something that makes it less prone to ripping? And who says you want it to be a smooth finish?

Devil's advocate also says an embossed line pattern on a real piece of leather, when installed to look like wound up cord will be a better target idea to look at.
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I'm sure it is possible but unlikely. I speak from experience. I've installed more stack wraps than anyone except for my friends at Tiger. There are times their leather strands get thin and it doesn't have enough fibers to hold it together.

I'm not trying to be difficult or stubborn. I'm trying to be realistic and save you some money. You are more than welcome to prove me wrong and I hope, if you try, that it works out for you. I'm just trying to offer my perspective. :cool:
 
does anyone remember that the name Stack wrap came from the idea of using stacked leather discs? I use this method to make handles for our mallets and when sanded and brushed the are smooth and perfect.
 
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