CHALK - are these really better than Master Chalk?
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Maybe....
I use Blue Diamond and carry it with me. I get beat by shooters using Masters some times. I think blue Diamond looks better because of it's wrapper. That may sound stupid, but lots of folks get married for the same reason, so how stupid is that?
I use Blue Diamond and carry it with me. I get beat by shooters using Masters some times. I think blue Diamond looks better because of it's wrapper. That may sound stupid, but lots of folks get married for the same reason, so how stupid is that?
Well, whats one more opinion on the subject going to harm?
I like the PREDATOR chalk the best!
The shape makes application of chalk much easier and goes on to the tip better than anything I have EVER used. I like it alot and the tube it comes in helps keep it dry and undamaged. I put my masters and blue diamond away. It is all I use.
KD
I like the PREDATOR chalk the best!
The shape makes application of chalk much easier and goes on to the tip better than anything I have EVER used. I like it alot and the tube it comes in helps keep it dry and undamaged. I put my masters and blue diamond away. It is all I use.
KD
I got my Kamui chalk a few days ago from the giveaway here on AZ. It definitely has a very different feel - everyone would notice immediately. Stickier, almost like you're taking a crayon and drawing on the cue tip. No little dust clouds like on Master. And it does seem to stay on longer. I don't know if I miscue less with it - I haven't miscued using it, but I don't miscue a lot anyway.
But that shit sticks on the cue ball. Shoot 5 shots, pick up the cue ball and you'll see 5 chalk spots. I imagine there could be a ball hop problem (but I haven't encountered it, surprisingly).
I've heard people say that the mid-priced chalks like Blue Diamond, Predator, and Balabushka, at about $3 per cube, are somewhere in between the chalkiness of the $0.30 Masters and the stickiness of the $30 Kamui.
But that shit sticks on the cue ball. Shoot 5 shots, pick up the cue ball and you'll see 5 chalk spots. I imagine there could be a ball hop problem (but I haven't encountered it, surprisingly).
I've heard people say that the mid-priced chalks like Blue Diamond, Predator, and Balabushka, at about $3 per cube, are somewhere in between the chalkiness of the $0.30 Masters and the stickiness of the $30 Kamui.
Chalk is like tips, ferrules, joint types on cues, etc. It is subjective, ask 20 different people what they like on any of the above listed items and you'll get a host of different answers and more often than not people are very passionate about their choices and will defend them. As far as chalk goes I'm one of those nut jobs that have a hoarded stash of preflag Masters which is all I use.
People keep saying that the differences are subjective, but the fact is, chalks are objectively different. Maybe the tests haven't been done on them - how long the chalk stays on the tip, their effect on miscues, how far from the ball center you can cue, etc. But the differences are very real. Try a Masters, a Predator, and a Kamui and anyone can tell the difference between each and the others.
Saw someone selling Magic chalks from Russia. From what I heard back then, I thought the company closed down already?
yeah, I saw that too. Just cause they are gone, does not necessarily mean all their product is gone too
Well I got a cube of Kamui 1.21 a few days ago. I have always played with Master. I found that it does stick quite well and I do not need to chalk up as often. I can also masse better. I also was shooting with my wife, she doesn't know anything about Kamui vs Master or anything else. She just plays. Anyway, she picked up my chalk holder and used my chalk the other night. After about 3 shots asked me about my chalk vs what she had and why it played different. I told her it was a different brand. She now wants to change.
The Standard is Masters by Tweeten Company. But I find that all the brands of chalk work just fine. I am having problems with the Kamui chalk getting grease stains on my tables. I know we have talked about this before and probably will again. I will not allow players to use any black, red or gold chalk on my tables. Tweeten Yellow Band chalk for billiard players is an alternative that may not be available any more. It is a bit grittier and in the old days (60's) it was the favorite of 3C players. Bill Smith (Mr. 3C) may have some additional information on Tweeten Company. I have bought boxes of Masters over the years that wore so well that I took the box out of circulation and used it as my private reserve. Tips are the same. Once in a while you will get a box of Le Pro tips that are as good as any tip on the market barring none. Most of the time they just wear out too soon.
yeah, I saw that too. Just cause they are gone, does not necessarily mean all their product is gone too
LoL, okay.
Are the same or different from the past? Chalk and packaging.
The Results Are In
Enjoy,
Dave
FYI to all in this thread, I finally got around to doing a complete set of objective experiments to characterize the performance of different brands of chalk. If you are curious, see the video and conclusions in the Chalk Experiment Results, with Video thread.
Enjoy,
Dave
Same stuff....packaging is a lil different, but it's the same chalk, I tested it, and yep, can go rack after rack without chalking. Some folks like to chalk after every shot, I'm just not one of them.
And it is me currently selling the chalk here on AZB,,,:thumbup:
You mentioned number of shots before miscues, but I did not see that list anywhere? What were the results? What chalk went the longest without miscue?
I didn't summarize the results in the video immediately after that particular experiment (... I meant too), but they are summarized and discussed at the end of the video starting at 17:27.
The Blue Diamond and Kamui chalks persisted on the tip longer than the others (especially the Kamui). However, I don't think anyone would recommend hitting many off-center shots in a row before chalking in a real game.
Regards,
Dave
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ snap snap....what he said. It's pretty subjective to personal opinion. All really depends on you and your $$$
Chris I hope you're still planning on polling the players. I'd like to hear the results of that.
Sorry Charlie. There is not even a slight chance that your results were a result
(see what I did there?) of the chalk you used.
Dale( recognized master of chalk... and, chalking)