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Celophanewrap

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So I had this thing happen this past summer, and it has kinda been bugging ever since. Whenever I mention it to someone that isn't pool literate I always get the strangest look like are you f-ing serious? So I thought I'd ask for an opinion:

Earlier this year, this past summer I had a chance to make a "donation" and play one of the old time pros a game of 8 ball . I broke dry and he had been playing pretty good and looked like he would just run out but he missed. Maybe he lost focus or was bored or whatever, but I found myself with a peculiar delima. What do I do? I surveyed the table and I felt that I could run out fairly easily, but if I did I'd be exposing one of the hero's of the game as something other than a hero, someone that was now mostly old. Someone that obviously didn't possess the game he once did but was still pretty good none the less. There was a choice to be made. Sandbagging? Not in my nature, but not really. We'd likely never play again under any circumstances and there'd never be any money involved anyways. There was always the chance that I'd miss if I just played it out, but I felt pretty good, so I didn't think so.
I could shoot, and possibly undress one of the most respected greats of the game and a personal hero of mine or I could lay off and continue to remember him with some reverence....
I chose the latter. There are far to few hero's left in the world and I certainly wasn't going to remove one from my memory, besides, I'd never be the player he once was and me winning that game, if I did, would have meant very little. When he sunk the 8, we smiled and shook hands and I gladly accepted his autograph and his time for a photograph of he and I together. As I was leaving he put his hand on my shoulder and said thank you. I guess I'll always wonder if that was for the donation or something that we both knew inside. What he has been to me since I started playing pool will remain with me forever.
Did I do the right thing?
 
I dunno...it is one game. If either his ego, his reputation or his place in your eyes is damaged by that...

Fuggit, shoot him down!
 
I beat a few pros in short races and challenge matches.

My favorite about 5 years back was running out on Charlie Williams at old SBE with about 50 spectators. Felt good ...then again it was Charlie.
 
So I had this thing happen this past summer, and it has kinda been bugging ever since. Whenever I mention it to someone that isn't pool literate I always get the strangest look like are you f-ing serious? So I thought I'd ask for an opinion:

Earlier this year, this past summer I had a chance to make a "donation" and play one of the old time pros a game of 8 ball . I broke dry and he had been playing pretty good and looked like he would just run out but he missed. Maybe he lost focus or was bored or whatever, but I found myself with a peculiar delima. What do I do? I surveyed the table and I felt that I could run out fairly easily, but if I did I'd be exposing one of the hero's of the game as something other than a hero, someone that was now mostly old. Someone that obviously didn't possess the game he once did but was still pretty good none the less. There was a choice to be made. Sandbagging? Not in my nature, but not really. We'd likely never play again under any circumstances and there'd never be any money involved anyways. There was always the chance that I'd miss if I just played it out, but I felt pretty good, so I didn't think so.
I could shoot, and possibly undress one of the most respected greats of the game and a personal hero of mine or I could lay off and continue to remember him with some reverence....
I chose the latter. There are far to few hero's left in the world and I certainly wasn't going to remove one from my memory, besides, I'd never be the player he once was and me winning that game, if I did, would have meant very little. When he sunk the 8, we smiled and shook hands and I gladly accepted his autograph and his time for a photograph of he and I together. As I was leaving he put his hand on my shoulder and said thank you. I guess I'll always wonder if that was for the donation or something that we both knew inside. What he has been to me since I started playing pool will remain with me forever.
Did I do the right thing?

I truly love this post, thanks !
 
My hats off to you

You did the right thing be proud of that , That move showed more character than any run out you have ever made
 
I played Mosconi an exhibition game and i let him run 85 and out on me.
I thought it best that he look good for the crowd.
you did the right thing.
 
So I had this thing happen this past summer, and it has kinda been bugging ever since. Whenever I mention it to someone that isn't pool literate I always get the strangest look like are you f-ing serious? So I thought I'd ask for an opinion:

Earlier this year, this past summer I had a chance to make a "donation" and play one of the old time pros a game of 8 ball . I broke dry and he had been playing pretty good and looked like he would just run out but he missed. Maybe he lost focus or was bored or whatever, but I found myself with a peculiar delima. What do I do? I surveyed the table and I felt that I could run out fairly easily, but if I did I'd be exposing one of the hero's of the game as something other than a hero, someone that was now mostly old. Someone that obviously didn't possess the game he once did but was still pretty good none the less. There was a choice to be made. Sandbagging? Not in my nature, but not really. We'd likely never play again under any circumstances and there'd never be any money involved anyways. There was always the chance that I'd miss if I just played it out, but I felt pretty good, so I didn't think so.
I could shoot, and possibly undress one of the most respected greats of the game and a personal hero of mine or I could lay off and continue to remember him with some reverence....
I chose the latter. There are far to few hero's left in the world and I certainly wasn't going to remove one from my memory, besides, I'd never be the player he once was and me winning that game, if I did, would have meant very little. When he sunk the 8, we smiled and shook hands and I gladly accepted his autograph and his time for a photograph of he and I together. As I was leaving he put his hand on my shoulder and said thank you. I guess I'll always wonder if that was for the donation or something that we both knew inside. What he has been to me since I started playing pool will remain with me forever.
Did I do the right thing?


It's just a game of pool. You're not taking his house or humiliating him. Chances are he's lost many games before and anyone can lose a single game. You should have beat him if you could and maybe he would have hit you with a double or nothing proposition . Ever thought maybe he wanted to let you win or at least give you a shot at it . My advice to you would be don't disrespect the man by letting him win
 
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Mike Massey

So I had this thing happen this past summer, and it has kinda been bugging ever since. Whenever I mention it to someone that isn't pool literate I always get the strangest look like are you f-ing serious? So I thought I'd ask for an opinion:

Earlier this year, this past summer I had a chance to make a "donation" and play one of the old time pros a game of 8 ball . I broke dry and he had been playing pretty good and looked like he would just run out but he missed. Maybe he lost focus or was bored or whatever, but I found myself with a peculiar delima. What do I do? I surveyed the table and I felt that I could run out fairly easily, but if I did I'd be exposing one of the hero's of the game as something other than a hero, someone that was now mostly old. Someone that obviously didn't possess the game he once did but was still pretty good none the less. There was a choice to be made. Sandbagging? Not in my nature, but not really. We'd likely never play again under any circumstances and there'd never be any money involved anyways. There was always the chance that I'd miss if I just played it out, but I felt pretty good, so I didn't think so.
I could shoot, and possibly undress one of the most respected greats of the game and a personal hero of mine or I could lay off and continue to remember him with some reverence....
I chose the latter. There are far to few hero's left in the world and I certainly wasn't going to remove one from my memory, besides, I'd never be the player he once was and me winning that game, if I did, would have meant very little. When he sunk the 8, we smiled and shook hands and I gladly accepted his autograph and his time for a photograph of he and I together. As I was leaving he put his hand on my shoulder and said thank you. I guess I'll always wonder if that was for the donation or something that we both knew inside. What he has been to me since I started playing pool will remain with me forever.
Did I do the right thing?


Many many years ago I played Mike Massey out in the streets. We didn't play long and I came up short.

After Katrina Mike, and I think the other guy's name was Spitball Charlie for a rare ability with a cue ball, came down to do a charity thing.

They had two eight foot Olhousen home tables that the factory had supplied to put on the two day exhibition and donate for an auction afterwards.

As part of the money raising effort Mike or Charley, your choice, would play you a game of eight ball for ten bucks. If you won you got an autographed billiard ball. I watched Mike for a couple of hours or so. In that time he missed either once or twice in the run to his final ball. Most amazingly every time he pocketed his final ball he was hung without position to pocket the eight ball!

Mike would miss the eight and the other player was left with an easy run out on an eight foot table with bucket pockets. After the first fifteen or twenty times exactly the same thing happened I had a slight suspicion that Mike just might be on the stall. Not sure mind you . . . .

Hu
 
It's just a game of pool. You're not taking his house or humiliating him. Chances are he's lost manat games before and anyone can lose a single game. You should have beat him if you could and maybe he would have hit you with a double or nothing proposition . Ever thought maybe he wanted to let you win or at least give you a shot at it . My advice to you would be don't disrespect the man by letting him win

I agree totally with Petey
 
Many many years ago I played Mike Massey out in the streets. We didn't play long and I came up short.

After Katrina Mike, and I think the other guy's name was Spitball Charlie for a rare ability with a cue ball, came down to do a charity thing.

They had two eight foot Olhousen home tables that the factory had supplied to put on the two day exhibition and donate for an auction afterwards.

As part of the money raising effort Mike or Charley, your choice, would play you a game of eight ball for ten bucks. If you won you got an autographed billiard ball. I watched Mike for a couple of hours or so. In that time he missed either once or twice in the run to his final ball. Most amazingly every time he pocketed his final ball he was hung without position to pocket the eight ball!

Mike would miss the eight and the other player was left with an easy run out on an eight foot table with bucket pockets. After the first fifteen or twenty times exactly the same thing happened I had a slight suspicion that Mike just might be on the stall. Not sure mind you . . . .

Hu

If I truly felt like this were the case I'd have definitely played it out and had fun with it.
I didn't feel like that was what it was.
 
might not have been of course

If I truly felt like this were the case I'd have definitely played it out and had fun with it.
I didn't feel like that was what it was.


It might not have been a deliberate laydown. You are by far the best judge of that as the one that was there. No doubt about Mike. I would have kind of liked playing him again but his evenings were tied up with the hosts and other things. I couldn't see getting involved in what amounted to a dog and pony show. The people putting their ten dollars down weren't really playing Mike Massey, They could have made a nine ball break and ran the first eight in any order and been the same thing.

Mike wasn't the nicest guy in the world when I first met him but he does seem to have found God and changed. A half-dozen more or less youngsters in their teens or early twenties were playing him over and over and I think he cut the price to three or four dollars a game after it was obvious they were going to keep firing just for the thrill of playing him. Some of those guys looked like they were working on full sets of signed pool balls!

Hu
 
If you can run out you should run out. In my opinion, letting him to beat you is a disrespect for him.
You can be best friends in life, but when you play, you should play fair.
 
Me thinks you are over the top with this "winning" thing. There is a difference between wanting to win and putting so much emphasis on winning that you feel as if one game defines the man or makes him feel any less.

He knows he missed and what should happen... now he thinks you couldn't capitalize.
 
Apparently you haven't watched, Twilight Zone, "A Game of Pool".

Just kidding. You did well. Whatever makes you feel good.

In this World, we are judged sometimes on what we give back to our fellow man.

It was just your way of doing it that night.
 
So I had this thing happen this past summer, and it has kinda been bugging ever since. Whenever I mention it to someone that isn't pool literate I always get the strangest look like are you f-ing serious? So I thought I'd ask for an opinion:

Earlier this year, this past summer I had a chance to make a "donation" and play one of the old time pros a game of 8 ball . I broke dry and he had been playing pretty good and looked like he would just run out but he missed. Maybe he lost focus or was bored or whatever, but I found myself with a peculiar delima. What do I do? I surveyed the table and I felt that I could run out fairly easily, but if I did I'd be exposing one of the hero's of the game as something other than a hero, someone that was now mostly old. Someone that obviously didn't possess the game he once did but was still pretty good none the less. There was a choice to be made. Sandbagging? Not in my nature, but not really. We'd likely never play again under any circumstances and there'd never be any money involved anyways. There was always the chance that I'd miss if I just played it out, but I felt pretty good, so I didn't think so.
I could shoot, and possibly undress one of the most respected greats of the game and a personal hero of mine or I could lay off and continue to remember him with some reverence....
I chose the latter. There are far to few hero's left in the world and I certainly wasn't going to remove one from my memory, besides, I'd never be the player he once was and me winning that game, if I did, would have meant very little. When he sunk the 8, we smiled and shook hands and I gladly accepted his autograph and his time for a photograph of he and I together. As I was leaving he put his hand on my shoulder and said thank you. I guess I'll always wonder if that was for the donation or something that we both knew inside. What he has been to me since I started playing pool will remain with me forever.
Did I do the right thing?

You did what was right for you! Which in turn is doing the right thing :thumb up:
I would love to play Jimmy White in a frame of Snooker as he is my all time favourite cue sport player. Even today, I don't think I could ever beat him - but it wouldn't stop me from trying. To beat Jimmy (who wouldn't play soft and still has a big game) would be the most incredible feeling of accomplishment - This would be right for me - to try and earn his respect..!
I have no doubt YOU did the right thing by YOU AND YOUR HERO - Congrats
:thumbup:
 
I think someone just blew the game and wants to remember it a little differently.
 
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