Congrats to Shane!!
Get Joe Tuckers book and video called racking secrets part one and two then comment please. If you have not read the book and KNOW the content you are behind the learning curve.
The Genius is Joe Tucker and Corey Dueul that started the trend in 9 ball breaking.
Members make comments that are informed and to the benefit of those less knowledgeable to only be told they are "Hating" on SVB. Please give me a break!
KD
What's wrong with pool is the fans. Just look at this thread! Most of those commenting don't have a clue what they are talking about. They don't even believe the wing ball can be made without a bad rack with the 9 on the spot! Yet, they are quick to say that SVB is cheating!
Just why do you think SVB spends so much time practicing his break? He doesn't want any gaps in the rack anywhere! He wants a consistent tight rack. That is where his break shines! Most of you don't even understand what hitting the head ball just a hair off center will do to the spread of the balls. IT CHANGES IT! So will adjusting your speed a hair. It's the combination of those two things that SVB studies! He also knows that breaking from near center line of the table, the 9 can consistently be headed up to the far corner pocket. The problem with that is, if it doesn't go in, most likely nothing else will either. So, he doesn't go for the 9. Instead, he has perfected how to change the spread of the balls by the hit and the speed. Thereby making the wingball reliably.
SVB's break is the result of countless hours of dedicated practice and really, really, paying attention to details. It's really a shame that when someone dedicates themselves to perfection, so many that are too lazy to do the same will accuse that person of cheating. They did it will Duel, and now are doing it with Shane.
You wonder why Duel doesn't play more, why he doesn't seem that interested anymore. You have no one to blame than yourselves! Here's a guy that is a pool genius, studied the game intensely, learned a way to break that gives you what you want to happen on the break, and you all cry and make it illegal!
Absolutely amazing how so many knock the true geniuses of the game! All out of sheer laziness on their part, because they don't want to work hard to perfect anything! They did it with Earl, Hal, Stan, Ron, Cory, and now Shane and Mike.
What's wrong with pool? look in a mirror!
I know all about Joe's book. That is NOT what Shane is doing on his breaks for the most part. However, when it is impossible to get a tight rack, he knows how to adjust for the gaps that are there. That in no way implies that he is intentionally putting gaps in the rack, quite the opposite in his case. Believe me, as good as Joe's book is, it is not the be all/end all in racking and breaking. :wink:
Many on here don't understand how very important it is to hit the head ball exactly where you want to, why you want to hit it there, and just what changes if you are off just a millimeter or two.
The READING of the rack you described above is not permitted and illegal. You either leave the gaps "Intentionally" or you examine the rack and exploit what is left for you. That is why examining the rack and the absence of the "neutral" racker is the problem as indicated several times!
KD
Please quote where this rule is because it is in neither the BCA nor WPA rule book.The READING of the rack you described above is not permitted and illegal. You either leave the gaps "Intentionally" or you examine the rack and exploit what is left for you. That is why examining the rack and the absence of the "neutral" racker is the problem as indicated several times!
KD
Just like Tiger showing up on Monday to play through and take notes for Thursday.
The READING of the rack you described above is not permitted and illegal. You either leave the gaps "Intentionally" or you examine the rack and exploit what is left for you. That is why examining the rack and the absence of the "neutral" racker is the problem as indicated several times!
KD
Just where do you get that looking at the rack and reading it is illegal? That is no different than looking at a ball near the rail to see if it is frozen or not.
What is illegal is adjusting the rack to make certain gaps that are advantageous to the breaker. That is not what he is doing.
He is definitely a pool genius, congrats to him.
Petros
I just read this from Niels Feijen's Facebook page:
"Sorry but i can't help it to write something negative about the us open(rack mechanics) championships. I just watched Shane beat dennis on centre court and he made the corner ball 9 out of 11 times, where the entire field was happy to get a ball down on that table. When you rack you're not allowed to touch the rack once you lift it so he touches the 1 ball when the rack is still on, creates gaps and gets the corner ball. Genius trick and an absolute monster player but i truly feel this break format with rack your own is chewed out, old school and done with!! It was created to speed up the game/racking and now it's whoever knows the most tricks/cheats gets the edge. Magic rack, 9 on the spot, 3 point rule break from anywhere, alternate break...It's no rocket science. Same rack for everybody.
My prediction, Shane will win his third title in a row, he's playing great and knows the tricks."
Jay Helfert and Dennis were checking Shane's rack the entire finals and sorry but there were no gaps...He just plays good..He practices the break more than any living human..That's his magic trick. He just makes sure the one and all the other balls are frozen, so he can get the maximum out of the break shot..Also in the finals he never touched the one after he lifted the rack.
The consensus among players in the pool room was that you can bet all you want against Shane if you think he was rigging the rack.I think he is a great player, which makes it even more of a shame that he resorts to cheating (rigging the rack) to win games.
It's been brought up by several players in the past, there was discussion about it last year and then again this year, and yet those who bring it up are still shouted down and attacked on here by the usual suspects.
It's a shame, and says a lot about why pool is still in the gutter.
I think he is a great player, which makes it even more of a shame that he resorts to cheating (rigging the rack) to win games.
It's been brought up by several players in the past, there was discussion about it last year and then again this year, and yet those who bring it up are still shouted down and attacked on here by the usual suspects.
It's a shame, and says a lot about why pool is still in the gutter.
The consensus among players in the pool room was that you can bet all you want against Shane if you think he was rigging the rack.
Pick your player. Pick your rack. Pick your racker and bet $50,000 in a race to 100.
No takers?
Case closed. Sour grapes from the losers. If all this is so well known the Shane wouldn't have gotten away with it five minutes into the tournament. Fact is he simply outbreaks almost everyone else.