Shane Has Won World Titles

Grantstew said:
Since when is a race to 100 at 10 ball the be all and end all... Shane has shown before he excels in a marathon format...

I'll tell you one thing, the format in the US Open, rack your own, no magic rack is hardly the way to tell the best in the world... It tells you a lot about who is best breaking their own rack...

Shane played great in the final for sure, and I don't think any less of him as a player for not winning a world title yet, but dismissing the format in other tournaments just makes you sound ignorant.
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It's not be all and end all ,, it has its flaws and bring other factors such as fatigue into play ,, ,, it's like saying the best horse is the one that wins the Belmont ,it's laughble , to draw such a conclusion and any reasonable thinking human understands that ,,
Ko won a race to 21 for now what we hear was over 20k . If I'm Ko and they asked to play again I would say I came to your home and played you in front of all your fans now you come to my house and play in front of my fans ,,in the mean time I'm basking in the glory while your huggers wheep and cry the race was too short

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one stroke said:
It's not be all and end all ,, it has its flaws and bring other factors such as fatigue into play ,, ,, it's like saying the best horse is the one that wins the Belmont ,it's laughble , to draw such a conclusion and any reasonable thinking human understands that ,,
Ko won a race to 21 for now what we hear was over 20k . If I'm Ko and they asked to play again I would say I came to your home and played you in front of all your fans now you come to my house and play in front of my fans ,,in the mean time I'm basking in the glory while your huggers wheep and cry the race was too short

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he didn't beat Shane out of 20k. and if Ko's camp doesn't want the easy money because of head games then so be it.

or.....21-17 was a little too close to consider trying to play Shane a race to 100 for much more money.

not exactly blowing someone away to win by four games.

Shane and Alex battled all over the country playing races to 25 neither one ducking the other. your version is called being nitty in american pool rooms.

besides it isn't ko calling the shots...it is his backers. Shane's backers green light any match he wants to play.
 
there's nobody in neither china nor taiwan that can beat shane at the moment, not in a long race

Daz
Dennis


that's it
 
smashmouth said:
there's nobody in neither china nor taiwan that can beat shane at the moment, not in a long race

Daz
Dennis


that's it
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You are seriously out of touch with 99.999% of pool if you don't think a race to 21 is a long race.

I think you can throw Bustie in your list as well if its for non-CHN/TPE players
 
JB Cases said:
he didn't beat Shane out of 20k. and if Ko's camp doesn't want the easy money because of head games then so be it.

or.....21-17 was a little too close to consider trying to play Shane a race to 100 for much more money.

not exactly blowing someone away to win by four games.

Shane and Alex battled all over the country playing races to 25 neither one ducking the other. your version is called being nitty in american pool rooms.

besides it isn't ko calling the shots...it is his backers. Shane's backers green light any match he wants to play.
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Alex is always playing through out the USA and has a big following of fans maybe more than Shane so it's not even close to the same thing
Its funny how we haven't heard about being asked about a rematch till now ,, but humor us more what where and how much

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corvette1340 said:
variance and how short races favor the weaker player and levels the playing field
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Obviously you have limited gray matter repeating the same "variance" thing over and over.
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:D


voiceofreason said:
I have a standing offer of £2,000,000 for tossing a single coin competition - easily makes me the best tosser in the world.. :grin:
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:thumbup: :)
 
smashmouth said:
there's nobody in neither china nor taiwan that can beat shane at the moment, not in a long race
Daz
Dennis
that's it
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for a country with "pool schools" and more than a billion in population, your statement is statistically uncertain. that's only for China. Im not even mentioning Taipei.
 
Gentlemen, I have a suggestion to your dilemma with deciding what length of race would be the fairest and conclusive..for both players.

One camp wants to race to 21 which is a fair race, however not the truest test of skill.:yeah:
The other camp wants to race to 100 which puts more stamina into the contest as a companion to the skill factor.:thud: I can see where each camp have their issues of concern so i'm going to propose what I believe to be the fairest test of skill..pressure test..character..and enough but not too much stamina required to finish the contest with their best speed not being diminished through an overload of work.:clapping:

My suggestion for the format would be a race to 21 where the winner would need to win the race three times before his opponent does.Basically a three out of five..race to 21.

It could be scheduled to last from anywhere between two to three days (depending on how the match is going)

I believe it would be fair to both players to agree to play between four to six hours per day..of course this would be somewhat negotiable, but a pretty good starting point for the negotiations.

I would like to do the commentary on this match, as I find it a very intriguing contest. I would be very +proud and fortunate to be able to be involved in such a contest between two of the finest (if not the finest) 9ball players in the world today.


Thanks to all.

Bill Incardona
 
To win the U.S. Open, Shane had to win EIGHT Races to Eleven, against eight very talented players. That's a total of 88 games he won! My personal feeling is that doing this is far more difficult than winning one long race against anybody. Dennis meanwhile won NINE Races to Eleven, only losing twice to Shane. Both of them had an outstanding won-loss record as well in total games played.
 
JB Cases said:
Do you get a jolly good laugh when you take the piss out of someone anonymously?
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This always makes me laugh. What on earth makes you think we wouldn't rip the shit out of you had we registered with our real names? :confused:

Those worthy of derision get it, whether anonymously or not. You are perfectly free to register anonymously on thesnookerforum, say, and see how British people in general view your posts. You will be back here in minutes, hiding behind the anonymous names that you dont seem to mind on AZB la-la land.

It's YOU who's afraid to come out and play, pal, not me.
 
jay helfert said:
To win the U.S. Open, Shane had to win EIGHT Races to Eleven, against eight very talented players. That's a total of 88 games he won! My personal feeling is that doing this is far more difficult than winning one long race against anybody. Dennis meanwhile won NINE Races to Eleven, only losing twice to Shane. Both of them had an outstanding won-loss record as well in total games played.
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you are exactly right Jay, because short race tourneys have way more variance than a long race. Make it even shorter (7) and alternate break and you level the playing field out even more and make it where the worst player has a better chance at winning. You of all people should understand the variance of tournament play. None of the rest of these assclowns understand. Anyone with a decent knowledge of poker can win a big tournament if the deck hits them in the face and the situations fall right. The same people can win for a night or two in cash games, BUT the same can't be said for those people in the long run. The best players always get the cheese in the long run. It's just simple math and these people can't comprehend that.
 
God, people are STILL banging on about this shit. Enough already. As good a player as SVB is, he's STILL not a world champion. No one has the right to say jack shit until he is. If nothing else, it's tremendously disrespectful to players that are.
 
wincardona said:
Gentlemen, I have a suggestion to your dilemma with deciding what length of race would be the fairest and conclusive..for both players.

One camp wants to race to 21 which is a fair race, however not the truest test of skill.:yeah:
The other camp wants to race to 100 which puts more stamina into the contest as a companion to the skill factor.:thud: I can see where each camp have their issues of concern so i'm going to propose what I believe to be the fairest test of skill..pressure test..character..and enough but not too much stamina required to finish the contest with their best speed not being diminished through an overload of work.:clapping:

My suggestion for the format would be a race to 21 where the winner would need to win the race three times before his opponent does.Basically a three out of five..race to 21.

It could be scheduled to last from anywhere between two to three days (depending on how the match is going)

I believe it would be fair to both players to agree to play between four to six hours per day..of course this would be somewhat negotiable, but a pretty good starting point for the negotiations.

I would like to do the commentary on this match, as I find it a very intriguing contest. I would be very +proud and fortunate to be able to be involved in such a contest between two of the finest (if not the finest) 9ball players in the world today.


Thanks to all.

Bill Incardona
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Billy, that seems like a fair enough compromise. Although, the people complaining about the race to 100 being a test of endurance are off of their rockers. It's contested over 3 days, racing to 30 on 2 days and 40 on the third. If any one of the best players in the world can't play 60-80 games of pool in a night without getting tired then they should pick another line of work or get off the goddamn couch and work out a little.
 
corvette1340 said:
you are exactly right Jay, because short race tourneys have way more variance than a long race. Make it even shorter (7) and alternate break and you level the playing field out even more and make it where the worst player has a better chance at winning. You of all people should understand the variance of tournament play. None of the rest of these assclowns understand. Anyone with a decent knowledge of poker can win a big tournament if the deck hits them in the face and the situations fall right. The same people can win for a night or two in cash games, BUT the same can't be said for those people in the long run. The best players always get the cheese in the long run. It's just simple math and these people can't comprehend that.
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What they 'can't comprehend' is why you're so boringly aggressive. Does variance explain that? :rolleyes:
 
Ron Swanson said:
God, people are STILL banging on about this shit. Enough already. As good a player as SVB is, he's STILL not a world champion. No one has the right to say jack shit until he is. If nothing else, it's tremendously disrespectful to players that are.
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nobody is saying he hasn't won one of the short race, alternate break world championships. What we are saying is that none of the world champions will beat Shane in a lengthy race, PERIOD. Now, if you want to put up some money on one of these short race champions then step the f#$$% up, otherwise shut your pie hole because you have no idea what you're talking about.
 
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