Congrats Appleton Make it Happen 8 ball Champ

Cardigan Kid

Cardigan Kid

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I had the pleasure of attending this tournament for Saturday and Sunday and seeing how dominant Darren Appleton is at the game of 8 ball. Congrats to him on the victory.

Also the crew for accustats is unbelievable in every way. From the camera operators to the shot clock-there's a lot more to this production than I originally thought. The level in quality and equipment has increased since I last saw Pat at turning stone back in 2007. Production value is extremely high.

Mr Renfro from Outsville introduced me to his Ki-tech tips and invited me to try them out on the tv table during a break. Very impressive tips and can't wait to play long term with one.

Also three cheers for the Outsville accu rack system as well. I saw huge thunderous breaks (even an 8 ball off the break by Darren) with racking time taking a fraction of the time of normal events utilizing a traditional rack. I would love to see the joss tour switch to the accu rack. These matches flew by without the racking drama, and I have to say the accu rack was a big part of that.

The level of play was unreal, not just from Daz but from the entire field. The dvd of earl strickland and Francisco Bustamante will be one for the ages. Earls jacked up full table length shot to spin and separate the cluster and get on the hill was unreal. The entire crowd went nuts. I'll remember that match for a while.

Just thought of starting a thread for anyone else to comment on their experience or thoughts. Thanks to Pat Fleming and Ed at sand castle billiards for creating such an event. Can't wait for next year.
 
Wow
DAZ won another freebie/exhibition.....He is very tough in those things.....I think he plays those much better then when he's gambling like with the Danny Smith match and there's real pressure.....

Good Job
 
Daz did alright when he won his World championship, his opponent made a
comeback of like 7 games with Daz on the hill and Daz ran the last rack to
clinch the title. NO PRESSURE THERE. Good job.

Congrats to Darrenon his MIH 8-Ball Win !!!
 
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JumpinJoe said:
Wow
DAZ won another freebie/exhibition.....He is very tough in those things.....I think he plays those much better then when he's gambling like with the Danny Smith match and there's real pressure.....

Good Job
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C'mon, have you been watching him lately? How about his pressure shots to bail out Karl his teammate in the world cup of pool? This guy can play.
And how do you define pressure? Going up against three hall of famers and two who are certain for hall of fame, to earn your paycheck for the month? That's more pressure than you think.
 
JumpinJoe said:
Wow
DAZ won another freebie/exhibition.....He is very tough in those things.....I think he plays those much better then when he's gambling like with the Danny Smith match and there's real pressure.....

Good Job
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Nobody can win 'em all but DA has been winning so much the last couple years, I find the above opinion will only be accurate if you time travel back to 2011.

Or at least, I think it's safe to say that he plays well in freebie/exhibitions *and tournaments*.
 
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itsfroze said:
daz did alright when he won his world championship, his opponent made a
comeback of like 7 games with daz on the hill and daz ran the last rack to
clinch the title. No pressure there. Good job.

Congrats to darrenon his mih 8-ball win !!!
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i assume earl played in finals?
 
He's a great player. I just think he's way more suited to tourneys, exhibitions then he is gambling. When gambling it seems players find his weakness and exploit him over an 6-10 hour session. Racing to 9 or 11 that is much harder to do.
 
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JumpinJoe said:
Wow
DAZ won another freebie/exhibition.....He is very tough in those things.....I think he plays those much better then when he's gambling like with the Danny Smith match and there's real pressure.....

Good Job
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Yawn. Ridiculous post.
 
Cardigan Kid said:
I had the pleasure of attending this tournament for Saturday and Sunday and seeing how dominant Darren Appleton is at the game of 8 ball. Congrats to him on the victory.

Also the crew for accustats is unbelievable in every way. From the camera operators to the shot clock-there's a lot more to this production than I originally thought. The level in quality and equipment has increased since I last saw Pat at turning stone back in 2007. Production value is extremely high.

Mr Renfro from Outsville introduced me to his Ki-tech tips and invited me to try them out on the tv table during a break. Very impressive tips and can't wait to play long term with one.

Also three cheers for the Outsville accu rack system as well. I saw huge thunderous breaks (even an 8 ball off the break by Darren) with racking time taking a fraction of the time of normal events utilizing a traditional rack. I would love to see the joss tour switch to the accu rack. These matches flew by without the racking drama, and I have to say the accu rack was a big part of that.

The level of play was unreal, not just from Daz but from the entire field. The dvd of earl strickland and Francisco Bustamante will be one for the ages. Earls jacked up full table length shot to spin and separate the cluster and get on the hill was unreal. The entire crowd went nuts. I'll remember that match for a while.

Just thought of starting a thread for anyone else to comment on their experience or thoughts. Thanks to Pat Fleming and Ed at sand castle billiards for creating such an event. Can't wait for next year.
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Great post tyvm.

BTW the equipment Pat was taking to the turning stone is a light version of Accustats equipment. As the stream is co-produce with AZBtv. There was no need for full production and crew expense !
 
JumpinJoe said:
Wow
DAZ won another freebie/exhibition.....He is very tough in those things.....I think he plays those much better then when he's gambling like with the Danny Smith match and there's real pressure.....

Good Job
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you know I am not certain about what you say here. Apart of me is like that is a ridiculous post but at the same time Daz does not have a good record in action matches or long formats. He lost to dennis hatch few years ago in a race to 100 which no disrespect if you cant beat hatch you wont be shane orcullo biado ko pin etc

he beeat shuff in the one pocket which I think we knew he would but lost bad to danny smith, he said he didn't practice but for 10k and didn't practice is bizarre

he lost to shane playing 8 b all in 07 I think at the derby for a lot lot of money

however he is such a stalwart in the mosconi and world events its hard to criticize him

I mean if shane had won this tournament he would of been hailed as the greatest to ever pick up a cue, since its daz he goes undefeated in the monster field and gets no credit smh

moreover I do recall a facebook post and even az thread which he said he will be playing big money matches regularly once he had finished the remodel on his house with own table etc so lets hope that comes fruitful
 
RADAR said:
i assume earl played in finals?
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No finals. It was a round-robin event; each of the 6 players played the other 5 guys once, so 15 matches in total. If there had been a tie in the records after the round-robin, there would have been a 16th match to decide the event winner, but Appleton locked up the best record before his last match was played.
 
Jumpin joe

I don't know why u keep knocking me..

For your info it wasn't a free exhibition every match was worth 1k to winner..

If u want to see if I can play under pressure bring any player in world to England they can play me ..

Also check my final racks us open 2010 world 10ball 12-11 100k online . World 9ball 12-12 40k online and the so on

Regards money matches yes I didn't play well against Dennis and bartram racing to 100.. Giving Chris the 8ball..

I lost to Danny one pocket didn't have any preparation and played poor my own fault will not happen again he can double the bet and play again for sure ..


U never mention all the money matches I've won around USA Europe Asia bucket loads of them..

If u want pressure go to Manila and play all them guys 10 hour set for 5-10k$.. 8ball and 9ball and 10ball with me there all alone playing against top Filipinos and 200 Filipino spectators rooting against me until 4-6am virtually everyday for months and coming out winner around 75% of my matches against the likes of Corteza kiamco Gomez del Luna biado efren Valle,de Luna etc and all ways bet least 50% of my own money .. Nobody else as achieved that there ..

I won shitloads of money matches in USA that's just not streamed.. But some have won got streamed u obviously didn't see them .. And in Europe out of maybe 200 money matches for at least 1k-50k I won about 90% of them..

I don't know a player in the world that's not lost there fair share of money matches or played bad ...

U hit a nerve with me so thought I throw u some facts out there ...

Regards darren
 
Cardigan Kid said:
I had the pleasure of attending this tournament for Saturday and Sunday and seeing how dominant Darren Appleton is at the game of 8 ball. Congrats to him on the victory.

Also the crew for accustats is unbelievable in every way. From the camera operators to the shot clock-there's a lot more to this production than I originally thought. The level in quality and equipment has increased since I last saw Pat at turning stone back in 2007. Production value is extremely high.

Mr Renfro from Outsville introduced me to his Ki-tech tips and invited me to try them out on the tv table during a break. Very impressive tips and can't wait to play long term with one.

Also three cheers for the Outsville accu rack system as well. I saw huge thunderous breaks (even an 8 ball off the break by Darren) with racking time taking a fraction of the time of normal events utilizing a traditional rack. I would love to see the joss tour switch to the accu rack. These matches flew by without the racking drama, and I have to say the accu rack was a big part of that.

The level of play was unreal, not just from Daz but from the entire field. The dvd of earl strickland and Francisco Bustamante will be one for the ages. Earls jacked up full table length shot to spin and separate the cluster and get on the hill was unreal. The entire crowd went nuts. I'll remember that match for a while.

Just thought of starting a thread for anyone else to comment on their experience or thoughts. Thanks to Pat Fleming and Ed at sand castle billiards for creating such an event. Can't wait for next year.
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Was great meeting you, Cardigan Kid, and The Renfro, too.

Quite an event. Darren's excellence was not at all unexpected. After all, he's an 8-baller by training and he swept the 8-ball matches in the Make it Happen all-around in April against Shane, Dennis, and Thorsten.

What was a little unexpected, at least for me, was Earl's brilliance. In his 3-2 performance, he played some phenomenal pool and, for once, he behaved quite well. Some of the shots he made were just remarkable, with the three most remarkable being rack-winners such as a) a two rail kick in of a six ball with shape onto the eight, b) a long-difficult masse of a nine ball with shape onto the eight, and c) an almost superhuman effort on a twelve ball in which he broke open the last cluster leading to a nearly impossible run out. Earl clearly enjoys 8-ball and it seemed to elevate is play.

I've watched Earl play many, many times this year. What seems especially odd to me is that his two best efforts came in Bank Pool at The Derby, and in 8-ball this past weekend. Well played, Earl.

As for the others:

Bustamante was brilliant, going 3-2 with two double hill losses. In one of those losses, he broke dry at double hill vs. Immonen, and in the other, Appleton made a crazy-tough out against him double hill.

Alex was intermittently brilliant, but didn't break well enough to contend.

Mika was generally competitive, but struggled in the late stages of his matches and it was costly.

Shane broke well enough, but had a very poor week in his position play and it cost him.

Beautifully played, Darren!
 
actionplayer said:
you know I am not certain about what you say here. Apart of me is like that is a ridiculous post but at the same time Daz does not have a good record in action matches or long formats. He lost to dennis hatch few years ago in a race to 100 which no disrespect if you cant beat hatch you wont be shane orcullo biado ko pin etc

he beeat shuff in the one pocket which I think we knew he would but lost bad to danny smith, he said he didn't practice but for 10k and didn't practice is bizarre

he lost to shane playing 8 b all in 07 I think at the derby for a lot lot of money

however he is such a stalwart in the mosconi and world events its hard to criticize him

I mean if shane had won this tournament he would of been hailed as the greatest to ever pick up a cue, since its daz he goes undefeated in the monster field and gets no credit smh

moreover I do recall a facebook post and even az thread which he said he will be playing big money matches regularly once he had finished the remodel on his house with own table etc so lets hope that comes fruitful
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Yeh lost two races to 100 at Poolsharks in 2009.. Both matches were poor ... That's two matches ..

I didn't play shuff he wouldn't play me .. I beat chip Compton who imo is slightly better than Danny but chip I had time to practice one pocket .. And play a few events around that time .. Beating Dennis on tar winning all my matches at one pocket at the make it happen all star invo etc.. But the match with Danny I traveled the world for months playing rotation and didn't have time to play one pocket for 4-5 months .. Went there thibking I be ok get through day one and I be ok .. But because I'm not a one pocket specialist I forget a lot of obvious shots and that cost me.. It will not happen again .. Was my own fault agreeing to play the Match straight after U.S. open 9ball and coming of a big stretch of tournaments and travel .. So I didn't have prep and the energy and gas left.. But danny well..

The match with Shane was around 2007/8 8ball 10a head we played for 12 hours winner break .. I played awesome in that match I was actually the better player but I couldn't break a egg then and obviously Shane's got the best break so was a miracle I pushed him for 12 hours ..

But I won around 75% of all my money maches world wide Asia and USA .. Europe I about 90% win...

I've seen everyone play bad for money Dennis Alex shane busta efren the lot of them but nobody mentions them... I mean really bad everyone of them ..Weird

I agree in not a fan of race to 100 boring and no pressure ..

Race to 30-35s is long enough or heads sets which I have a great record in only losing a couple of those and winning around 20 of them for big money ..and playing races to 21-35 I prob around 80% success world wide playing with my own money with pressure .. Not the guys that get huge spots and get staked and frightened to bet a dime.. They the guys that are playing with hardly any pressure because they play every week...

But thanks for your kind words . Appreciate it
Darren
 
sjm said:
Was great meeting you, Cardigan Kid, and The Renfro, too.

Quite an event. Darren's excellence was not at all unexpected. After all, he's an 8-baller by training and he swept the 8-ball matches in the Make it Happen all-around in April against Shane, Dennis, and Thorsten.

What was a little unexpected, at least for me, was Earl's brilliance. In his 3-2 performance, he played some phenomenal pool and, for once, he behaved quite well. Some of the shots he made were just remarkable, with the three most remarkable being rack-winners such as a) a two rail kick in of a six ball with shape onto the eight, b) a long-difficult masse of a nine ball with shape onto the eight, and c) an almost superhuman effort on a twelve ball in which he broke open the last cluster leading to a nearly impossible run out. Earl clearly enjoys 8-ball and it seemed to elevate is play.

I've watched Earl play many, many times this year. What seems especially odd to me is that his two best efforts came in Bank Pool at The Derby, and in 8-ball this past weekend. Well played, Earl.

As for the others:

Bustamante was brilliant, going 3-2 with two double hill losses. In one of those losses, he broke dry at double hill vs. Immonen, and in the other, Appleton made a crazy-tough out against him double hill.

Alex was intermittently brilliant, but didn't break well enough to contend.

Mika was generally competitive, but struggled in the late stages of his matches and it was costly.

Shane broke well enough, but had a very poor week in his position play and it cost him.

Beautifully played, Darren!
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Great to see u again stu :-)
 
actionplayer said:
you know I am not certain about what you say here. Apart of me is like that is a ridiculous post but at the same time Daz does not have a good record in action matches or long formats. He lost to dennis hatch few years ago in a race to 100 which no disrespect if you cant beat hatch you wont be shane orcullo biado ko pin etc

he beeat shuff in the one pocket which I think we knew he would but lost bad to danny smith, he said he didn't practice but for 10k and didn't practice is bizarre

he lost to shane playing 8 b all in 07 I think at the derby for a lot lot of money

however he is such a stalwart in the mosconi and world events its hard to criticize him

I mean if shane had won this tournament he would of been hailed as the greatest to ever pick up a cue, since its daz he goes undefeated in the monster field and gets no credit smh

moreover I do recall a facebook post and even az thread which he said he will be playing big money matches regularly once he had finished the remodel on his house with own table etc so lets hope that comes fruitful
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From 93-2008 I was a better money player than tournament player .. I used to be in action all the time ... Recent years not so much more tournaments focus .. But I still win lot more than I lose that's for sure ...

But once next year comes around if I got the time I will play lot more matches

Regards pressure lot more pressure in big tournaments than money matches ESP later stages of big tournaments anyone that says any different are liars

Darren
 
dynamite said:
Yeh lost two races to 100 at Poolsharks in 2009.. Both matches were poor ... That's two matches ..

I didn't play shuff he wouldn't play me .. I beat chip Compton who imo is slightly better than Danny but chip I had time to practice one pocket .. And play a few events around that time .. Beating Dennis on tar winning all my matches at one pocket at the make it happen all star invo etc.. But the match with Danny I traveled the world for months playing rotation and didn't have time to play one pocket for 4-5 months .. Went there thibking I be ok get through day one and I be ok .. But because I'm not a one pocket specialist I forget a lot of obvious shots and that cost me.. It will not happen again .. Was my own fault agreeing to play the Match straight after U.S. open 9ball and coming of a big stretch of tournaments and travel .. So I didn't have prep and the energy and gas left.. But danny well..

The match with Shane was around 2007/8 8ball 10a head we played for 12 hours winner break .. I played awesome in that match I was actually the better player but I couldn't break a egg then and obviously Shane's got the best break so was a miracle I pushed him for 12 hours ..

But I won around 75% of all my money maches world wide Asia and USA .. Europe I about 90% win...

I've seen everyone play bad for money Dennis Alex shane busta efren the lot of them but nobody mentions them... I mean really bad everyone of them ..Weird

I agree in not a fan of race to 100 boring and no pressure ..

Race to 30-35s is long enough or heads sets which I have a great record in only losing a couple of those and winning around 20 of them for big money ..and playing races to 21-35 I prob around 80% success world wide playing with my own money with pressure .. Not the guys that get huge spots and get staked and frightened to bet a dime.. They the guys that are playing with hardly any pressure because they play every week...

But thanks for your kind words . Appreciate it
Darren
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I think you get knocked for this slightly because the main matches you've played in the USA you have lost. like you mentioned hatch, bartram, shane, danny smith etc

however like you said you have won a lot of matches in phillipines when you were early in your transition to American pool and in England im guessing English 8 ball that you also won but they are not well known here

I personally think one pocket might become your best game in a few years as your rotation slows down because of your battling qualities and cue ball control

comment I made earlier which I didn't like by earlier post was its a bullshit exhibition match which was not the case if you don't think people are trying to win for 1k a match your kidding yourself however if shane had won that tournament he would be getting plaudits from everywhere, double standard

I really appreciate you responding on here and clarifying, very classy
 
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