Great White Chalk is the nuts!!
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So in other words, it greatly improved your game.
Happy holidays, my friend. :thumbup:
I'm waiting for my chalk to arrive, hopefully it doesn't have these drying out issues. I'm not looking forward to having it kept in a baggie like Kamui.
Hey Randy,
I like smart people. That is a pretty asture observation on the moisture content.... The more moisture the creamier the chalk goes on.... Since the chalk is baked after it's molded most of the physical water cooks out... As it's exposed to the environment it will wick water from the air and actually soften up instead of drying out... Depending on your environment it may or may not have the moisture content in the air to continue this process...
It's not uncommon and Nobcity had the same issue with the Magic Chalk when he first got it in and it took a few days for it to stabilize and soften up... Maybe if he sees this he can confirm...
Since it was creamy the first day and seemed to get dryer it would make sense it's drying out but that's not the case.. It shipped at 5.7%-6.5% Moisture content and most of the moistrue would have been in the outter surfaces since the chalk is fresh and has not had any time to stabilize... With that being the case don't try the drop of water trick.. You can do 1 of 2 things... Leave it on the side of the tub and take a nice long hot shower that will take the surface reading up about 2% in 15 minutes and the chalk will absorb that into the body in about an hour so the overall change isn't musc at all.... OR 2) Take a paper towel and soak it with hot water.. squeeze the excess water out and fold it up into a small square and set it on top of the chalk. The damp paper towel will up the suface reading 4%+ in about 15 minutes so it's the better method....
Chalk drinks water like San Jose drinks Yukon Jack... Will take as much as it can get until it's full... Well not quite but it does stabilize in the enviroment... Since it's winter there's not much humidity so it may need a little help....
This is something Kamui figured out and we are just now getting to... Those silly plastic bags ensured that the Kamui stayed at a high moisture content and was not subjected to environemental changes when it travelled to Arizona where the air is dry or Mobile in the summer when you need a sharp knife to cut out a chunk of air to breathe......
The future batches will all ship between 9-10% moisture content but that doesn't help anyone that wants the "Great White" creamier this batch... I was skeptical on a few of our members that talked about baking their chalk or tossing it in the shower in a thread a year or more ago... After testing I have come to realize they were on to something that applies to any of the chalks on the market...
Chris
I need to address this as well... The bags can pretty much be tossed if it will be kept in a pocket or your case. This even holds true for the Kamui. For moisture to be gained or lost you have to have air movement... Since there will be no air movement in the pocket there will be very little change to moisture content...
Same thing for cue tips... If you store a cue in a case the tip likely is good years where if you store it in a cue rack out in the open air the tip may become a fossil after a few years of sitting.....
Chris
My plans were to treat one peice like masters and just leave in my case opened. I want to see what it is like without being maintained like keeping sealed. I am a long time .98 user but am always willing to try something new.
The next peice I use I want to try keeping in a Baggie and see if that adjusts how smooth it is.
The next peice I use I want to try keeping in a Baggie and see if that adjusts how smooth it is.
Will be interesting to hear your results... What part of the country and weather patterns may have some influence... This was the main concern I had on Dr Dave's chalk test.. Since the different chalks were not tested the same day the humidity levels could have had a direct impact on the different chalks performance..... Would have been nice to have known the weather conditions and the moisture content of the cubes tested on the different days...
I may have to try a piece out next time myself..
So in other words, it greatly improved your game.
Happy holidays, my friend. :thumbup:
Exactly... I went from a C player to a C+ in 10 minutes
Happy Holidays brother. Hope you're good!
Anyone can do what Dr Dave did, science. Science is having a theory or hypothesis, testing it, and reporting the results for public scrutiny. Then, the public can repeat the testing themselves. That's all science is.
I'm greatful dr Dave does it. I mention this because I wish more of us did
I'm greatful dr Dave does it. I mention this because I wish more of us did
Chris also have a pm and email from me going on two weeks now..was looking to place an order and see if you have any medium/hard tips done? If I was to place an order would you receive notification right away? I was afraid to place an order and not know when I would receive the products without talking to you first.
Thanks,
Tim
Sorry Tim there have been a huge amount of PMs and emails coming in since the chalk was late... I should have flagged yours for follow up but I just started doing that... dee de deeeee..... Medium/Softs and Super/Softs are not available in the store yet and I haven't gotten around to final pressing any for shipping... I will be doing tips tonight and tomorrow so if you place an order just select soft or medium and put in the notes that you are requesting medium/softs in place of them.....
Chris, when I see you I will take some of the Great white chalk. Carry some with you when you come to Brews and Billiards, ok?
Ok thanks Chris. Are you doing any medium/hards at all? That's what I was interested in. I can't decide between a medium or hard so maybe that'll be the answer. I you mention about doing hardness grades in between the normals but not sure if you got a chance to make a medium/hard yet?
Thanks,
Tim
Thanks,
Tim
Medium Hard is out and available... Not gotten a ton of feedback on it yet... Joe Tucker ran off with some of them when he hit it passing thru here a few months back but likely have sold under 400 or so of them so feedback has been sparse so far....
I dunno, something seems way off there. That seems impossibly high to me, especially if you are speaking of the chalk picking up moisture from the surrounding air as opposed to being exposed to liquid water. Plus, I would think that chalk that was shipped at 10%MC by weight would be about as solid as mud.
What kind of moisture meter are you using? If you are using a regular wood meter then you are not getting close to the percentage of water that's actually in there. I have no clue what fillers you are using, but looking at what the folks who make Delmhorst moisture meters has to say about gypsum can possibly be extended to figuring out how to get the true MC of your chalk.
As you can see, the EMC of gypsum is less than 1%, even at a relative humidity of nearly 100%. Are your fillers that much different from gypsum or other similar inorganic minerals? Inquiring minds and all that.
FWIW my moisture meter has dual scales. When I measure the MC of an exposed edge of drywall I get a reading of 0.4%. Using the same meter and scale setting on three different pieces of chalk (Kamui .98, BD, and Magic Chalk) I get a reading of only 0.2%MC (the chalk is in a drier, heated room with my table). So, your chalk at 10%MC by weight would contain 50 times as much water in it as all of my chalk has.
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My experience with the Great White Chalk has been less than satisfactory! I have chalk dust all over the table and on the tip it is uneven. I hope I got a bad piece (just opened one so far). Maybe it is just the initial top section of the chalk that is dry and uneven. I will post if it gets better else that is how the whole chalk turned out to be.
The way it is I can't take it to the pool hall as the owner will not allow that kind of chalk dust on the table.
I really hope that I had a bad piece or just that batch had issues as I do wish this chalk achieves success like the Ki-Tech tips, which btw are awesome.
The way it is I can't take it to the pool hall as the owner will not allow that kind of chalk dust on the table.
I really hope that I had a bad piece or just that batch had issues as I do wish this chalk achieves success like the Ki-Tech tips, which btw are awesome.