How does a cue butt's weight affect game play?
Butt Weight and Feel
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Only if it's in the 10 to 12 pound range.
Oddly enough, a woman's butt weight can be a real game changer, if you get my drift, and I think that you do.
Oddly enough, a woman's butt weight can be a real game changer, if you get my drift, and I think that you do.
The more weight added at the bottom, the lest resonance in the grip imo.
You mean to tell me that you can actually feel the grip resonate?
I tend to agree with what he said. My player cue is now at 15 ounces and I get really good feedback and other times you really do feel it resonate and vibrate like hell and I hate it. When I hit a ball bad you can definitely tell that you hit it bad.
Whereas with cues with heavier butts you get less of that feedback and I don't like it.
Yes indeed
To my way of thinking, anything felt through the butt of the cue (buzzing, springiness, etc.) is due more to the cue's construction than anything else. I could be wrong, however.
I was wrong only one other time, but after I checked, I had only thought that I was. :smile:
I Believe There's a Difference
The lighter the cue butt weight, the more apparent the feel of your stroke becomes after striking the cue ball.
A heavy cue butt weight tends to deaden the feel of your stroke a lot more than a light cue butt weight.... IMO.
I know there are going to be pundits that will disagree and I imagine most of them will play with a piloted
steel 5/16x14 cue joint which helps disguise the difference in tactile sensation. Nonetheless, there's definitely
a difference in tactile feel with a wood to wood cue joint, or an ivory joint, when you significantly change the
cue butt weights, much more so than with piloted steel cue joints.
Personally, 15.0 ounces is the heaviest cue butt weight I'd ever accept in any pool cue and all of my cues have
butt weights which are well below 15 ozs. Playing with lighter cue butts (less than 15 ozs.) coupled with heavier
shafts (>3.9 ozs) and flat ivory cue joints offers the best combination I've found.
Matt B.
The lighter the cue butt weight, the more apparent the feel of your stroke becomes after striking the cue ball.
A heavy cue butt weight tends to deaden the feel of your stroke a lot more than a light cue butt weight.... IMO.
I know there are going to be pundits that will disagree and I imagine most of them will play with a piloted
steel 5/16x14 cue joint which helps disguise the difference in tactile sensation. Nonetheless, there's definitely
a difference in tactile feel with a wood to wood cue joint, or an ivory joint, when you significantly change the
cue butt weights, much more so than with piloted steel cue joints.
Personally, 15.0 ounces is the heaviest cue butt weight I'd ever accept in any pool cue and all of my cues have
butt weights which are well below 15 ozs. Playing with lighter cue butts (less than 15 ozs.) coupled with heavier
shafts (>3.9 ozs) and flat ivory cue joints offers the best combination I've found.
Matt B.
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Assuming a heavier cue butt generates more force, how will that affect cue ball control and spin?
The common thought is that a lighter cue ( 18-19oz ) is best for feel and control. As far as what it does to the ball, weight does not have that much of an effect as does how you hit it with that weight. Look at all the discussoin about break cue weight. Many very good players say light as you get a faster stroke = more speed, while other very good players say heavy since you get more mass = more speed. Both sides are right in my view so it comes down with what works best with how YOU hit the ball.
If you have a good smooth snap stoke, say like Efren, you may like a light cue. If you have a power stoked, you may be happier with a cue that does not move as much under power so a heavier one over 19oz.
Opinions
IMO SS jointed cues and cues with certain LD shafts ( seem) to have more vibration then wood to wood jointed cues with solid maple shafts ................
Personally I am getting to the point where I think the less steel that is in a cue means less vibration and I am considering about putting 3/8x10 g10 pins in all the future cues I am planning on making.
Cues that Buzz, vibrate and have allot of harmonics in my opinion are distracting.
IMO SS jointed cues and cues with certain LD shafts ( seem) to have more vibration then wood to wood jointed cues with solid maple shafts ................
Personally I am getting to the point where I think the less steel that is in a cue means less vibration and I am considering about putting 3/8x10 g10 pins in all the future cues I am planning on making.
Cues that Buzz, vibrate and have allot of harmonics in my opinion are distracting.
Not sure about overall weight, but balance can most definitely affect play. The rear weighted a cue, the more tendency the shaft is to lift inside your bridge, especially an open bridge, which greatly affects where you actually strike the cue ball in comparison to where you think you strike it. For this alone, most players prefer a slightly forward balanced cue.
A neutral balance feels almost weightless, regardless of how heavy the cue may be (within reason). A slight forward or reverse balance also feel fairly weightless, and the feel of weight obviously gets more extreme as the balance shifts. On a 58 cue, I personally prefer a 19"-19.5" balance point, which tilts the balance slightly forward. Any further feels very uncomfortable to me, like the cue is a battery ram or something. Anything rear feels completely opposite, like I'm trying to herd cats. That's just me, how I feel it & how it affects my game. Other folks may have a different feel.
A neutral balance feels almost weightless, regardless of how heavy the cue may be (within reason). A slight forward or reverse balance also feel fairly weightless, and the feel of weight obviously gets more extreme as the balance shifts. On a 58 cue, I personally prefer a 19"-19.5" balance point, which tilts the balance slightly forward. Any further feels very uncomfortable to me, like the cue is a battery ram or something. Anything rear feels completely opposite, like I'm trying to herd cats. That's just me, how I feel it & how it affects my game. Other folks may have a different feel.
Now Mike, you know damn well that Co☆er has a Special Tuning
Fork he uses to make the "buzz" in all his cues exactly the same.
That's assuming you actually ever receive the cue(s) you paid for.
Note: This is an inside joke (not) between us.