When is a Break & Run NOT a break & run?
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This is how I call it too.
He ran a 6 pack on you. It does not matter if the game was won on the break, or an early combo/carom.
Now, it does matter for gambling purposes if the player is a weak player and got lucky. You know you can gamble with him even though he ran a 6 pack on you.
But you can't take it away from him, a 6 pack he ran.
Now, it does matter for gambling purposes if the player is a weak player and got lucky. You know you can gamble with him even though he ran a 6 pack on you.
But you can't take it away from him, a 6 pack he ran.
Uh when you opponent has a chance to shoot, that eliminates that game from the 'pack'. It's a 6pack cut and dry. There's not discussion to be had. Now as far as break and runs, a break and run to the win is what counts. He had two early nines that are excluded, and 4 legitimate break and runs.
Earl made 9s on the break in five of his eleven games. I can't remember all the racks, but I know he made a "combo" on the 9 in the 11th game.
So he "didn't" have 11 break and runs, IMHO..he had 11 consecutive games where he won without giving up the table to his opponent. There is a difference to some.
FWIW, YOU can't have a break and run when your OPPONENT broke. You can have a run, but that shouldn't be counted as a "break and run" for you.
Aloha.
Obviously there is a discussion to be had. Pack is short for package.won 7 games in a row. There are 7 games in that package.
You're the only one arguing against this. Does that make it clearer that you're wrong. A 'package' is known to occur when you keep your opponent from shooting. Since the opponent shot in the first game, that is not able to be counted in a package. 6-pack with four break and runs. Stop trying to go against the grain. You're wrong and you know it.
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I've seen people from time to time either say they ran a x-pack or that so-and-so ran x racks, but simply meaning that they won that many in a row. If that's the case, we're all a bunch of killers now and then.
If 3 is closer to the right number, how about we just use "5"? Because I think that is the RIGHT answer.
Aloha.
The APA awards patches for break and runs. There is a checkbox on the score sheet for this.
Here is a description from one of their franchise league website on the criteria for earning a 9-ball break and run patch.
A break and run is exactly what it says. The player must break and then pocket every ball in his or her category in 8 ball. In 9 ball, the player must break and pocket every ball on the table.
http://nola.apaleagues.com/CustomPage.aspx?q=3184
If this was a APA sanctioned match, your opponent would get a Break and Run patches for racks 3 & 7, and 9-ball on the Snap patches for racks 2 & 5.
Here is a description from one of their franchise league website on the criteria for earning a 9-ball break and run patch.
A break and run is exactly what it says. The player must break and then pocket every ball in his or her category in 8 ball. In 9 ball, the player must break and pocket every ball on the table.
http://nola.apaleagues.com/CustomPage.aspx?q=3184
If this was a APA sanctioned match, your opponent would get a Break and Run patches for racks 3 & 7, and 9-ball on the Snap patches for racks 2 & 5.
Well, if that's what the APA says I guess that settles it.
I feel so much better now that we've got that straight
We don't need CJ, I know what I'm talking about. Maybe you should do a little more reading for yourself...so other people wouldn't have to do your homework for you.
Quote from John McChesney: (John McChesney, Robin Adair and Jay Helfert were the tournament directors at the event at CJ's Billiard Palace in Dallas, Texas):
http://www.sporttaco.com/rec.sport....The_Dallas_Million_Dollar_Challenge_4086.html
"We were all amazed that he made at least a ball on the break each of the 11
racks .. that alone speaks volumes !! And yes .. he did make the 9 on the
break 5 times of the 11 .. ( at least 2 of them were when Jay racked )"
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I'm not the AMAZING ONE, though I may start using that as my new nickname now that you mention it.
The AMAZING thing on here is that MANY people will not accept anything on here as "legit" unless a "KNOWN PRO" says it. Then what happens? I'll tell you! A guy like CJ Wiley comes on here and says something and then they "pile on him" too.
If everyone would just pay attention, there would not be a need for somebody to constantly tutor them. I didn't pull the number "5" out of my ass...I heard it, read it, and even watched the videotape of it (even though the entire match wasn't filmed).
You don't have to be a pro to know the right answer to things. You just have to know what you are talking about.